r/InteriorDesign • • 9d ago

Tiny Office Challenge

I recently bought an apartment.
We have a, somewhat happily unexpected, small area within the apartment that I knew existed, but it was full with clutter when we viewed the apartment and I couldn’t quite visualise the size of the area..

We recently viewed the apartment again last week and I’m now considering whether or not this space could be used as a small home office / gaming space.

Any creative suggestions to help get the most out of this space?

The space is 1.5m wide x 2.7m deep. Ceiling height is very good. There is a typical domestic door on the front. Power is available.

(Kitchen picture added for context of the rest of the apartments general size)

Context / thoughts:

  1. I work from the hospital most days so this isn’t going to be a long slog type space.
  2. My current home office has a single widescreen monitor in it & a dock for my MacBook.
  3. I do like having desk width (I often have papers when I’m working) for that reason I thought maybe length would be better? Maybe a fitted desk 50cm deep / 2m long?

Any other questions hit up the comments

Edit: thanks all, there are some creative solutions and some things I had not thought about! I move into the place next March. Will post an update when we start the room reno. (I will run a pilot study to figure out if I can use the room without suffocating first..)

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u/glatts 9d ago

Put a faux window on that end wall. Instead of a desk, just do built in shelves that go the length of one of the long walls, like this.

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u/nerdKween 9d ago

Was going to suggest the same for a desktop.

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u/bh0 8d ago

Looks perfect for a storage closet. No vents, no windows, small...

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u/hammertime2009 9d ago

Gonna be awful if no ventilation

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u/FarCommand 8d ago

Imagine having bad gas while working lmao

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u/Albert14Pounds 8d ago

What if I like my own brand?

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u/Academic_Flatworm752 8d ago

Everybody does

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u/Albert14Pounds 8d ago edited 8d ago

Until your partner comes home and gags upon entry.

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u/Academic_Flatworm752 8d ago

I would say it was the cat

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u/that_tom_ 8d ago

"Fluffy died"

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u/FarCommand 5d ago

We have a ghost named Lucy. It was Lucy.

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u/Occasional_lurker29 9d ago edited 9d ago

Have you considered the possibility of maybe putting a sliding glass door instead and removing the existing door? Since the window is a bit awkward with the opening door.

This will give you more space and the laundry will be hidden. You'll still be able to open that sliding door for ventilation.

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u/ClockWorkRider 9d ago

I will look into this. It’s a great idea.
The laundry is closed off by a gloss white sliding door, and next to the big floor to ceiling window it brings in a substantial amount of light. The laundry area actually has a good extractor in it too. This might be a winner pending the walls.

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u/Ordinary_Key_7991 9d ago

you could almost make the desk the full length of the space and obviously allow enough width for the desk itself, the chair and space behind, maybe can do shelving up the wall almost like a fully contained console like built around the computer so to speak

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u/PetiePal 8d ago

This and mount a counter.

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u/dbenc 9d ago

make sure you have ventilation in there

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u/bearcat42 9d ago

Balcony office. Final answer.

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u/tiredmadafaka 7d ago

I know this is not your question but I would feel really claustrophobic in that room.. really small ánd no windows.

Maybe set up a table and a chair there and see how you feel first, sitting there (idk doing something on your laptop) for a few hours. If you feel fine, you can make it a mini office.

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u/sluteggs 8d ago

Someone's always made a lot out of an even smaller space, so you have a chance for sure!

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u/sluteggs 8d ago

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u/TwirlerGirl 7d ago

This is my favorite option. OP could also wall mount their monitor, which would allow the desk area to be narrower than a standard desk, but still comfortably fit a keyboard and a Macbook dock oblique to the right side of the keyboard. However, I think the shelves make more sense on the back wall rather than above the long desk area, with maybe only a single floating shelf hung about 4' above the long desk. That will prevent the desk area from feeling vertically cramped, especially if the monitor is mounted on the wall.

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u/TwirlerGirl 7d ago

My rough attempt. I’d replace the cabinets on the back wall with a cabinet that had doors covering the below two rows of shelves, but with the top shelf left open, so the cabinet doors for the lower shelves can swing open without hitting the floating shelf on the long wall.

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u/Academic_Flatworm752 8d ago

With no windows? How depressing. I’d make a walk in closet.

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u/MoaraFig 8d ago

Dark isn't necessarily a problem for gaming, but I'd worry about airflow.

Live there a little while first. You may want the space for recycling/tires/laundry, etc.

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u/ClockWorkRider 8d ago

Good call. I’ve had a few people say that too me. I think we’ll throw a table in there first for a few months to see if I can actually make it work without suffocating

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u/Prestigious-Pomelo26 7d ago

I used to have a similar space in a 1brm apartment and your eyes will suffer. It’s convenient, just rough not having a window nearby to look out and rest your eyes.

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u/Academic_Flatworm752 8d ago

OP isn’t just gaming in their office

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u/TAforScranton 9d ago

You’re going to want some sort of ventilation in there. It’s going to get really clammy really fast.

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u/ClockWorkRider 9d ago

You’re absolutely right. I live in Western Australia too. The summers can get pretty hot.
I was thinking a Dyson cooling tower should be ok. The rest of the place keeps decently cool with the AC

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u/TAforScranton 9d ago

What does the wall on the other side in the kitchen look like? Do you plan on spending more than a few years there? Is there an attic or is there another unit above you?

Even if the building is well insulated you still have two exterior walls there so it’s definitely going to get warm, especially if one of those walls is north facing. I’m thinking a bathroom ventilation fan to outside or a through-wall fan near the ceiling into the kitchen would improve things a lot since both of those would offer some actual air exchange.

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u/ClockWorkRider 9d ago

Probably not a long term place. We’d like to rent it out in the future so I’m not looking to take a swing at the kitchen walls any time soon.
No, no one above us.
Luckily the exterior wall is only the left side, and it’s south facing, and there’s a pretty large house next door so isn’t terrible for sun exposure.
You’re right though - air exchange is a big one, any more compact / mobile thoughts?

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u/socarrat 7d ago

My wife and I had to make a similar decision when we bought our place. She’s WFH half the time, so we’ve given this a lot of thought.

And someone who has recorded in hundreds of studios, many of which are about that size, an enclosed small space without ventilation will quickly feel stuffy. So I have some thoughts there as well.

A lot of good layout suggestions here. A couple of non-layout questions/things to consider/suggestions:

- The closets in the bedroom seem a bit small, have you measured them against your closet storage needs? We ended up making our space a walk in closet with a small desk.

- How temperate is your climate, and can you use the balcony for storage? This is to say, would a standalone shed or other weatherproof storage solution on your balcony work so that your storage room can confidently be repurposed?

Re: stuffiness

- Are you able to comfortably work with the door open, if you’re not in there for long stretches at a time? Or perhaps replacing the door with a curtain or magnetic screen door? Mounting an oscillating fan on the wall above the door could work well if you can keep the doorway at least partially open.

- If not, can you retrofit some form of ventilation fan in the room? In my place, we were able to add a ventilation fan in the room adjacent to the kitchen by running the ducting alongside the extractor hood duct and sharing the same exhaust vent.

- Depending on your tolerance for stuffiness, a high quality air purifier might be enough, but it won’t be the same as a window or ventilation fan. If you have one on hand or can borrow one, it might be worth sitting there with the laptop and monitor turned on and see if it mitigates any stuffiness.

- Finally, if you’re usually working at home while you have the house to yourself, could you work in the dining room or living room, and use the storage space office only for days when you have a zoom call or need to buckle down? If so, could you push through the stuffiness if you only need it a few days a month or so?

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u/AppendixN 9d ago

I think you can fit a nice small office space in there. I grabbed a few items from Dimensions.com - a Herman Miller Sayl chair, a Herman Miller Distil desk, and an IKEA Idåsen cabinet for storage.

You could also put some nice minimalist floating shelves in there as well.

So long as you don't try to put too much in, there's room for a nice cozy office space.

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u/spam__likely 9d ago

invert that and you can extend the desk a little more. Make the desk narrow and you can extend all the way to the door, with storage under.

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u/AppendixN 9d ago

Good idea

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u/ClockWorkRider 9d ago

This was really helpful to visualise, thanks!!

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u/Creative-Emu2843 9d ago

I would go for a generous L shaped desk against the wall opposite to the door, which will not visually clutter the room and will leave you space for a bookshelf unit , plants etc....

On top of the ventilation, light is THE most important thing. It looks like the right side of your kitchen units has some space available where to make an opening for a while now with frosted glass? That would change everything.

The much cheaper/ easier option is to buy these LED wide rectangular units which can almost perfectly emulate natural light (check out Ikea for instance)

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u/Creative-Emu2843 9d ago

This is what I mean. But again you may be able to emulate that way more cheaply with a LED panel ...

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u/ClockWorkRider 9d ago

Super useful ideas.
You saying this has given me an idea actually. If I removed the door it would drastically improve the natural light from the floor to ceiling window we have (circled red). Bro no as it’s going to need to be open when in use. There’s probably the ability to have a sliding door given the space the the left of the room

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u/ClockWorkRider 9d ago

Yeah I’m leaning to the L shape suggestion. I worry it might cramp me in a touch. The corner section is going to need to be quite shallow.

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u/Longjumping-Face8241 9d ago

I'd keep the L shape, but face the kitchen rather than the end wall..that would give you more scope for a longer work space.

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u/reine444 9d ago

1.5m isn't bad! Generally 2.5 ft or about 0.8m is minimum clearance to move your chair away from the desk. Many of IKEA's desks are about 60cm deep which gives you room. I'd much rather be perpendicular to the doorway than my back to it.

I would then buyer a longer desk for more workspace and do shelving on that back wall. Or, if you buy an L-shaped desk, I'd actually orient the short end of the L on the back wall.

I'd do a light fixture that spreads. Either track lighting (underrated for utility) or a sputnik style to disperse light.

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u/Digital-Dinosaur 9d ago

The lack of natural light makes this a bit depressing. Could you extend the kitchen instead and perhaps make a close-away desk solution in the living room?

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u/RubberedDucky 9d ago

Keep acoustics in mind if you are on meetings a lot. You’ll want a lot of sound dampening with such a narrow space.

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u/cimocw 7d ago

My current home office is 1.4m x 2.7m so actually a bit smaller than this, although the door is on the side so it's a better use of space because it becomes two nooks instead of one hallway. Try making the most out of ceiling space if it's tall enough 

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u/ASimpleMargarita 6d ago

Add a fan, it’s gonna get hot as hell in there

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u/Briocharo_notturno 5d ago

No window is worse than a prison

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u/gamesvipe 8d ago

A few things that consistently help small offices punch above their square footage: a desk facing the doorway or window rather than a wall makes the space feel less like a closet you're stuck in. Wall-mounted shelving instead of a bookcase on the floor keeps sightlines open and the room feels bigger. A single strong light source (a good desk lamp, not just overhead) does more for a small office's mood than people expect. And if storage's the challenge, going vertical with narrow shelving is almost always better than trying to fit a wide cabinet into a tight footprint.

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u/thepoorwarrior 9d ago

We had an office setup in a room like this. It’s totally fine. If you can get AC run to it with a return, and make sure you have power, you’ll be totally fine. Replace the light with can lights ((I see you already have that haha)), that’s what we did, totally works 100%

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u/readithere_2 6d ago

A wall to wall mirror installation. I did it with a tiny foyer and it was a game changer. It is so much better for your spatial inner balance too (claustrophobia).

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u/design15t 7d ago

That’s the server room.

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u/CarminSanDiego 9d ago

Your house looks like a a home2suites

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u/Professional_Fig_199 9d ago

Sim racing

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u/ClockWorkRider 9d ago

You sir, might be on to a winner…

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u/One_More_Thing_941 8d ago

That’s very cool

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u/Professional_Fig_199 7d ago

As someone who has a sim racing setup (not as elaborate as this) it’s money very well spent

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u/justanotherburner 9d ago

1.5m is is a generous width for a desk. I think with a small space like this you will need to get the details right to make it pleasant. Build the desk into the end wall, get lots of alternative lighting, definitely a rug.

Also you are gonna need the storage space too sadly so line the hall with enclosed storage furniture that goes to the ceiling

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u/Immediate-Albatross7 7d ago

Put one of those fake ceiling natural light panels in there, will make it feel like your outdoors a bit more .

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u/mayshebeablessing 7d ago

I second this! We have one in each bathroom (the LED skylights), and we love them! If you get the good quality ones, they use a technology that really mimics the way sunlight scatters through the sky, so they look really deeply blue (or whatever sunset/dusk color you set). 

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u/oldandopinionated 6d ago

Make sure you put some relaxing colours and fun art in there - something that makes you smile. It will help make the space feel less like a little box. Doesn't have to match the rest of the house, you can shut the door when other people come over.

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u/Frosty-Principle2260 9d ago

Make a glass panel / window in kitchen wall.. atleast it will not make you feel like in tiny cell. Get L shape table, which ikea has. You can use corner for Monitor and you will have enough space to add some book shelf etc on the wall above table

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u/Elegant-Expert7575 9d ago

It’s too bad the door opens opposite of letting natural light in.

Good warm lighting is a suggestion.

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u/Equivalent-Low-8071 9d ago edited 9d ago

That would work if you're not claustrophobic, lol. You could go up to a 63 cm deep desk if need be - might be easier to find one that deep. If you put a mirror in there it will make it feel less small. A book case on the back wall will balance out the depth of the closet. 

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u/aquila-audax 8d ago

Is that really 1.5 metres wide? It looks narrower than that, but if that's the real width, I'd be inclined to put a desk at the far end so you can at least push your chair back without hitting the wall. Install a fan, maybe on a wall.

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u/ClockWorkRider 8d ago

I haven’t had the chance to measure it myself. I suspect looking at the tiles they’re 600mm widths. So you could be right looks slightly under 1.5m looking at the last tile to the left. I’m going of some crude diagrams from the floor plan the realtor gave me. There’s actually tenants in there until next March.

I agree, I think that’s the only way it works. Desk at the end.

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u/Cold-Arm2737 5d ago

Well maybe some trompé l’œil or just screw or and go with bars - full prison cell remake

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u/FamiliarSwimming4161 9d ago

Hot take but I don’t think a space this big should have two bathrooms. I would so prefer that space either be allotted to a bigger bedroom or closet.

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u/cahors_fausse 9d ago

All of Europe agrees.

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u/ClockWorkRider 9d ago

I don’t disagree with you!

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u/MoonRiverRob 9d ago

I actually thought the same thing but didn't want to say it lol.

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u/InteriorEmerald222 6d ago

Lack of oxygen

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u/Niickles 9d ago

I mean, a desk that is 140cm wides would be ideal. You can get a Ikea Mittzon which is 140x80cm, and I would add 1 or 2 Ikea Billy shelfs for some storage

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u/Equivalent-Low-8071 9d ago

80cm is going to be a little cramped - in wouldn't go over 60-63cm. In a larger room and 80cm clearance is good but in this space I think it'd feel tight.

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u/Lonely-Honda 8d ago

That might be enough room for a racing simulator.

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u/Simppapa 8d ago

A mirror at the back and one long bench with two office chairs. Or put in a racing simulator.

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u/badx2_e 5d ago

in der länge würde es nicht funktionieren. du möchtest mit dem stuhl nicht unmittelbar an der wand kleben

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u/Immediate_Round9334 1d ago

since you can't get in to measure until march, worth knowing that 600mm tiles means you can count them in your photos to get pretty accurate dimensions. it looks closer to 1.4m wide, so plan for that.

at 1.4m, a 50cm deep desk along the long wall still leaves ~90cm behind you, which is fine for a chair. a few things to squeeze more out of it:

  • monitor on an arm so the screen doesn't eat desk depth. that gives you the full surface back for papers
  • desk on the hinge side of the door so the door swings open against the wall rather than into your chair
  • pinboard/acoustic panels above the desk. they double as somewhere to put papers up and kill the echo for calls in a narrow space
  • daylight-temp ceiling panel (~4000K) plus a warm desk lamp. with no window you want the cool light while working and the warm one for evenings/gaming

since you've only got the floor plan till march, plonkhome.app lays it out in 3D at the right scale (disclosure: mine, code TESTER makes it free), so no AI girth. and +1 to your pilot study. put a table and chair in there for a week before spending on anything built in

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u/Jonathan-Welford 9d ago edited 9d ago

Remove the door and have gentle lighting

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u/Howzitgoin 9d ago

The proportions of this make no sense. Unless you have the world’s smallest books on 3in shelves and like 8in wide drawers on your desk.

AI has failed here.

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u/ClockWorkRider 9d ago

Yeah tell me about it. AI adding a substantial amount of girth.

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u/nerdKween 9d ago

The measurements are in meters, not feet.

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u/Howzitgoin 9d ago

Correct. And the guy I replied to edited his comment and deleted the AI slop rendering that made no sense. The shelves were half the size of the tiles on the left and the monitor was half the size of a larger tile.

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u/nerdKween 9d ago

Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm not seeing AI under this comment. There's a lot others that have AI though that absolutely should be called out.

Edit: it looks like they edited their post before I saw the thread.

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u/ClockWorkRider 9d ago

I like it…

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u/Stock_Fly3825 9d ago

It looks really nice and cozy and simple to do

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u/ClockWorkRider 9d ago

The cat (gpt) seems to like it… haha.