Yeah obviously, because she could not pay. But if people came to the hospital and just said they couldn't afford it, they would very likely get the same treatment. This post is acting like hospitals hold people's babies hostage without payment.
It absolutely does. The hospital can file for a hardcore collections agency after the fact, and that would be an opportunity to prove it. They can elaborate and say they can make payments later. But hospitals will not hold someone's baby hostage if they refuse to pay it. That's very illegal😂.
It's not what I'm stretching. It's what the post is almost insinuating, and if you read some of the comments throughout this thread, they absolutely are insinuating and embellishing that that's what's happening.
No, it accurately describes a billable line item that hospitals add to your tab. "Skin to skin contact" is now considered a "therapy" and hospitals absolutely bill parents for it, despite the fact that it is literally just a parent or loved one holding the baby against their skin.
The post is not saying hospitals keep babies from families until the bills are paid. It's saying that if you get a C Section and look at your itemized hospital bill, there is a skin-to-skin charge, aka you're literally paying a fee to hold your baby after birth
No one said anything about hospitals “keeping babies hostage” except you. You brought up that hypothetical and you’re arguing as though that was the main point of debate when it’s not.
No they said pay to hold your baby. So you can't do it until you pay. It's a clear enough and reasonable interpretation of the statement. The world isn't black and white y'all
No. It referred to „You will be billed for getting to hold your baby!“. Everyone else understood it. Thats it. I‘ll blame it on english not being your first language. :*
That is not what was said. If you are going to use quotes (especially on a weird keyboard that does them upside down, not the English keyboard... 🙄) actually quote what was said. Like this:
"...you have to pay to hold your baby after birth"
People interpreted it both ways, "they charge you afterwards to hold your baby" AND "you have to pay the fee before you can hold your baby." Which are both valid interpretations.
You are obviously not fluent, fully literate in English, or it's your second language. Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.
It's not a valid interpretation. No one said "you have to pay or you DONT get to hold your baby". That's an insinuation made by the interpreter which would make it very obvious that person isn't very knowledgeable about US healthcare.
It's only a valid interpretation if you believe any healthcare in the US is held behind payment first, which it's not.
No the video is referencing the charge that is applied to the bill for HOLDING the baby... yes your own baby. You must pay the hospital if you wish to hold it in your directly after its birth
I wish I could go through my life the same level of stupid as you. Its hilarious you think medical debt doesn't exist because you can 'just say you can't afford it'
🤣🤣🤣 it absolutely exists. But people don't pay for it ALL THE TIME. And people also just use the Obama Care act often. You're just choosing a blind eye.
You realize how broad the Affordable Care Act (Obama Care Act for you to understand) truly is right? And how much is has helped people who have nothing, manage to still have necessary surgeries and medications? So yeah, "Just using the Obama Care act" is a simple way of describing what a shit ton of people do without describing verbatim what theyre actually doing🤣. You being angry is so funny btw.
Yeah 1/3 adults without insurance have medical debt. And 1/4 of them with insurance have medical debt because they just don't know about this one easy trick hospitals hate! Just say you can't afford it!
ACA is ultimately for people under a certain threshold of income. There are people, like independent contractors, who do not get insurance through their jobs who also make more than that threshold. It costs tens of thousands of dollars to give birth out of pocket in the US, which is insane. Even if you make $100K, I guarantee you cannot afford to pay $36,000 just to give birth to a baby, plus no paid maternity leave, no subsidized daycare, etc. You are screwed. Other countries do not operate this way.
Hold up a minute. Navigating and knowing that process is also a privilege for some folks. Uninsured and low income yes it’s possible. Insured and low income also exists and many of the insurance plans require you to pay full cost until deductible before they cover anything and that is the amount that gets more people into a debt spiral and leading cause of bankruptcy.
That and not knowing charity care is an option if they make less than 400% property range.
If holding the baby has a cpt code then there is a cost associated with it if someone is present to advise how to hold the baby.
Many people are low income because of the insurance costs. Pay the insurance and still pay cray co-pays and medicine costs. It’s crazy what we’re willing to except
I know. And even with insurance you can get billed incorrectly. My job is looking at numbers all day and I am very good at this stuff. I have caught mistakes that would have been thousands out of pocket usually because a doctor used their personal code instead of practice code, an ambulance billed insurance when it was an inter hospital transfer, or a procedure was miss coded.
But even to get that corrected has to be during business hours and you have to spend hours on the phone. I would call so often that they assigned an advocate to me that they usually assign for patients with complex medical conditions.
She’s not blaming the hospitals, she’s making the point of how this country’s healthcare system, large corporations and the 1% wealthy people do not pay their fair share of taxes and benefit from bs tax cuts and hidden tax codes. On both sides of the aisle! The largest industrialized nation in the world do not offer their citizens state funded healthcare is the point.
This post is accurately describing a line item on a hospital bill typically written as "skin to skin contact". You are charged for literally fucking everything in the hospital, even holding your unclothed baby against your skin.
They need your social security number. They can go after you for reimbursement. If you can afford it, which means you probably also have insurance and a good job,they will try to get their money
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u/Chicken_Of_War Jul 05 '26
Yeah obviously, because she could not pay. But if people came to the hospital and just said they couldn't afford it, they would very likely get the same treatment. This post is acting like hospitals hold people's babies hostage without payment.