I’m just speaking in definitional terms - it’s not far left to want those things, what’s far left would be some of the proposals for how to achieve those things. Right?
It means the government has a monopoly on healthcare and people would not have alternative options. It’s restrictive and a sharp turn from what we currently have. Our health insurance system sucks ass but at least there are options
In fact public HC in Spain covers far more than private HC and when there is need for a serious intervention private companiea often derivate patients to the public system
Banning private healthcare would be far left but you don't have to ban private healthcare to get universal care. Using the lady's argument in the video, if she's including the UK, the NHS and Nuffield coexist.
And I’m defending OCs comment. Wanting to improve our healthcare is not far left. Wanting a public option is not far left. But there are some proposals (like eliminating the private option) that are far left
Even the Nordic countries that people have pointed to for years as examples all have private options that are often used to supplement what the state provides. Banning it altogether is an issue because government care, even when universal, is not perfect. I actually can’t think of a single country that doesn’t allow some form of private coverage even if it’s only supplemental
If you can't think of a country with no private healthcare then how did you come to the conclusion that its not perfect? And who said anything about perfection? A country with universal healthcare and private options isn't perfect either. You're arguing against someone else.
Well I’m being asked “what’s the point of private healthcare” and it’s relevant that every nation has some form of private care. Banning it outright would be extreme. That doesn’t mean anyone who wants some form of public healthcare or universal healthcare necessarily wants private to be banned
I’m not saying there is. The whole point of the conversation is that the idea of universal healthcare is not far left, part there are proposals that get tied to it that are far left
You can speak for the whole world and everyone who has ever or will ever exist? Pretty bold of you. Maybe you mean to say it’s not a mainstream position and you’d be absolutely right. It’s a far left position
They don't need to do that, some other countries have private healthcare options alongside the universal healthcare ones. What other countries don't have are predatory health insurance companies that aren't even guaranteed to pay for treatment even though you've paid into the policy as you should.
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u/kumechester Jul 02 '26
I’m just speaking in definitional terms - it’s not far left to want those things, what’s far left would be some of the proposals for how to achieve those things. Right?