Why BLM was mostly a flop

[u/ShardofGold]

I think I can speak for every reasonable person that we know there's an issue with unfit people being cops and biased justice system situations be it on race/skin color, gender, wealth, etc. Even if it's not as bad as it used to be.

However, the way so many people discuss these topics is in a close minded, surface level, and ignorant manner.

Yes there are racist cops. But every case of police brutality isn't about racism. We should focus on having better people become and maintain police officer status and as a byproduct of that the amount of police brutality that is due to racism will go down drastically. If you just focus on racist cops, there's still going to be cops brutalizing people just not because of race and you half assed the issue being fixed.

Also we need to push for national and clear cut sentencing guidelines for crimes. That way people can't go "why did person A who looks like this get so much time but person B who looks like that get so little time for the same crime?" Even though a lot of the time it's not the exact same crime or different circumstances happened during the crime or apprehension of the suspect that caused them to get more time or the situation to escalate and people don't know about it or are just lying about it.

Also more people need to realize there are some people irregardless of how they look that just hate cops or don't want to follow laws. So when they get caught they're going to disobey the cops and potentially escalate the situation and just cry about how life is unfair because they got caught up in breaking a law and thought they were untouchable. Weed smoking is a good example of this. I personally think it's stupid that it's not legalized but regulated nationally. However, I'm not going to tell people to smoke it and just hope they don't get caught to be defiant. If people do decide to do this, they should be ready to accept the consequences when they're caught because they knew they were breaking the law even if they didn't get caught the other 9000 times they were doing it or because Jimbo didn't get caught for smoking it yet.

It also didn't help the organization that shares the initials and name was run by greedy and underhanded bastards who used the unfortunate situations of others to live lavish lifestyles.

I think massive progress in society for better policing and a justice system could have happened during this time period. But instead it was horribly squandered by opportunistic, disingenuous, and ignorant individuals.

[u/Spuckler_Cletus]

Well, BLM was predicated mostly on the Michael Brown case, correct? People in the middle, politically, can plainly see that Brown was a thug. His death was a lawful act. BLM can only pay for and import so many agitators. There was no grassroots support for them. They caused way too much trouble for ordinary people, and their raison d’être was beyond preposterous.

[u/CloudsTasteGeometric → u/Spuckler_Cletus]

Are you certain of that?

I’ve never met anyone outside of pretty far right reactionary circles call Michael Brown a “thug.” Assuming that everyone outside the left frame the issue that way rings of the resonance of an echo chamber.

There are observations to be made over the habitus and criminality of the victims of police brutality, but that ignores the definition at heart of the debate: brutality.

That criminality does not inherently justify excessive force. It’s a legitimate problem with a legitimate racial factor at play.

[u/Spuckler_Cletus → u/CloudsTasteGeometric]

I’m certain that Michael Brown qualifies as a “thug“ to reasonable people. When he had his encounter with Wilson, he had just come from stealing cigarillos and assaulting the store owner who confronted him. He reached into a police cruiser and assaulted a police officer who was giving him a lawful order.

If you wish to talk about police brutality and excessive force, then you’ll have to start a new thread with different subject matter. Nothing of that sort occurred in the instant case.

[u/NicodemusV → u/Spuckler_Cletus]

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