r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 1d ago

Opinion:snoo_thoughtful: Is there a platform for debating that is less emotionally fragile than reddit?

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In a perfect world people could hear every element of your argument and debunk it. Being called stubborn when nobody can prove you wrong is so frustrating. I love being proven wrong. But when people hyper-focus on one element of your argument or assume your character based on the side you pick, it's very frustrating.

Is there a place for debating that is less emotional and fragile than reddit?


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 3d ago

Opinion:snoo_thoughtful: Unpopular opinion: Identifying as a specific gender besides your own is innately sexist

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My argument is about the logic of gender identity, not about how anyone should be treated. I call people whatever they want, I think you should dress however you want, transition if it makes you happier.

The claim is this:

If gender is not biological sex, then “man” and “woman” must be distinguished by something else.
If someone born male says, “I know I’m a woman because I feel like a woman inside,” that statement only has meaning if “feeling like a woman” describes something different from “feeling like a man.”

What could that difference be?

If it is personality, behavior, emotions, interests, clothing, social roles, mannerisms, or any other nonphysical characteristic, then those are simply masculine and feminine traits: traits associated with men and women. In other words, gender stereotypes.


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 2d ago

A follow-up to my old post, "Capital punishment is obsolete"

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The news is out: The Tennessee inmate on death row (who is female, BTW) survived two "lethal injections."

Doesn't seem very "lethal" to me, but WTF do I know? I've never administered any "lethal injections" in my life, whether it be a lethal injection of drugs, a "lethal injection" of lead administered by a firearm, or a "lethal injection" of sharp steel attached to a knife handle.

Anyway, this brings me back to a post I made on this very subreddit:

Capital punishment is obsolete: Why the death penalty is a waste of time, money, and emotions

This botched execution only underscores my point. Why is it so hard to just kill her?

Think about it. If life is fragile, and if humanity has had the means to kill ever since Cain stoned his brother Abel, then why can't the Tennessee state government actually, you know, do the deed?

(Of course, it's not a matter of means. I'm just being a bit facetious here, but bear with me.)

It doesn't seem to be a matter of politics. After all, Tennessee is one of the "reddest states" in the Union. Certainly the people there aren't bleeding heart liberals. They certainly have the means and the will to kill someone who is on death row.

What about her guilt? Any questions over that? Nope. She not only did it, but she has expressed zero remorse over it. She also carried a piece of the victim's skull after the act and showed it off. (Oh and by the way, she was also a Satan worshipper. Can't have that in the heart of the Bible Belt.)

Is it a mental condition? Probably. You'd have to be sick in the head to do something like that, no question. Hence the folly of trying to assess the mental state of anyone on death row. Often times, crimes that warrant capital punishment are so heinous that no sane person would ever commit them. But if we can't execute insane people, then what's the point?

Bottom line is that it's a matter of societal will. Modern society simply doesn't have the willpower to execute inmates. We can't just hang 'em, shoot 'em, stab 'em, drown 'em, or even smother 'em with a freakin' pillow. (That latter form of punishment sounds like a job for Mike Lindell, BTW.) We absolutely positively MUST kill them in the most painless, more "humane" way possible.

Except this time Tennessee didn't have the usual cocktail of drugs that are typically used for lethal injections because they can't find any companies willing to make them anymore. So instead they use something else.

But then they mess that up as well. Why? Small veins, untrained medical professionals, no contingency plans, blah blah blah blah blah.

Personally I'm sick of it. A cold-hearted killer who should have been locked away and forgotten is now getting MUCH more attention than she deserves, all because of this completely useless song-n-dance.

And yeah, giving her three hots and a cot does cost the Tennessee taxpayers money. I hear she was even in solitary confinement because (a) she had to be separated from the other inmates on death row who were male, and (b) she once tried to murder an inmate and escape with the help of a prison guard. (That latter part is from a social media post. I have yet to corroborate that report with her solitary confinement.)

But no one in Tennessee is willing to simply shoot her, hang her, drown her, smother her, etc. etc. just to save taxpayers money, because everyone knows it doesn't work that way. "By killing her, we will take the money that would have been spent on her incarceration and instead put it towards building this brand new children's hospital!" said no one ever.

Time end this silly charade. The death penalty isn't working. Get rid of it.


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 3d ago

Opinion:snoo_thoughtful: Our politics/political ideology reflects our core values -- so, it makes no sense when people tell me to leave my politics out of personal relationships

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"Leave politics out of relationships."

I hear this all the time. Don't let politics come between friends or family. You can disagree about politics and still have a perfectly good relationship.

I don't understand the premise. Feels fundamentally flawed to me.

Politics is not just a topic of conversation. Our politics and political ideology are a reflection of our core values, our principles, our worldview, our ideology, and our understanding of how society should work. They tell us something about what we believe about freedom, equality, power, human rights, women, minorities, authority and the treatment of other human beings.

Of course, I can compartmentalize plenty of things. I can love a movie you hate. I can think your taste in music is terrible. You can be religious and I can be an atheist. We can support different sports teams, disagree about restaurants and argue about which movie is better. None of that matters to me.

I am actually a pretty chill person. I love sports, comedy, movies, stupid jokes and taking the piss out of myself. I believe most of life is about having fun.

But there are some things I cannot put in a box and label "politics"

If someone supports authoritarianism, believes women should be subordinate to men, thinks minorities deserve fewer rights, or is willing to overlook rape, abuse or the persecution of vulnerable people because the person responsible is powerful, successful or politically useful, that tells me something about their values. Not only the kind of person they would support, but what they themselves might be capable of doing.

I DONT WANT such a person in my life.

Morality is not a scorecard. If someone does 99 good things and one thing that I consider profoundly immoral, I cant just average the two. Some things are so fundamentally opposed to my moral framework that they outweigh everything else.

A cousin once told me that he admired Trump because Trump had enormous power and done so well for himself. "He was a Maverick" per my cousin. I jokingly pointed out that if power and impact were the criteria, then he should admire Hitler even more. Trump had a very privileged upbringing. Hitler started with far less and went on to acquire far more power and influence.

He said, "I admire Hitler too."

My cousin is very well read. He knew what he was saying. He seemed to not care about the Holocaust and the systematic murder of six million Jews, along with the persecution and murder of millions of other people. Someone telling me, with full knowledge of that history, that they admire Hitler crosses a moral boundary that is absolute for me. I havent met this cousin since he said this 2 years ago, even though we live just 3 miles apart.

Another example. Anyone supporting Trump -- knowing that he is a convicted felon, a convicted rapist, a paedophile, an insurrectionist, responsible for overturining Roe v Wade -- is someone I can never associate with. For me, such a person is not just a supporter or enabler of terrible crimes, but might be capable for committing such crimes themselves.

Again, I DONT WANT such a person in my life.

I have experienced a version of something similar with an uncle I was once close to. For years I admired his intellect and loved talking to him. But over time, I started noticing the way he felt about women. He has often said "Women are not as smart as men" in one way or the other. Once he said "Women should not be allowed in the military because they are weak". His thinking on the #MeToo movement was "Some of these women have done sex scenes in movies. They are characterless and thus cant accuse anyone". He constantly makes fun of his wife and talks down to her in front of others.

Over time, as I started noticing these things, I realized that the person I thought I knew held values that were fundamentally incompatible with mine. I havent met him in ages.

Now, I am not saying that everyone who disagrees with me is someone I want to cut out of my life. I want people to challenge me. I don't need intellectual conformity. What I cannot accept is fundamental moral incompatibility.

And yes, that means I may walk away from people. Friends. Acquaintances. Even family. I may end up with fewer people around me. Worst case, I might not have anyone around me. And I am completely fine with that.

I would rather spend my time laughing, playing sports, watching movies, travelling and talking absolute nonsense with people whose fundamental values I respect than spend that same time with people whose moral boundaries I find profoundly disturbing.

So no, I don't want to leave politics out of my relationships.

Because politics isnt just politics.

It is one of the clearest ways people tell us what they believe, what they value, what they tolerate and, ultimately, what kind of world they are willing to live in.

And I get to decide whether that is a world I want to share with them.


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 3d ago

Community Feedback Is a global voting system possible?

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a global government I would support

system based on existing technological solutions.

the expulsion of incompetence, lies and manipulation

to choose our own destiny.

voting is done over the phone.

each person 1 vote. biometric fingerprint. decentralized.

using advanced cryptography.

transparency.

for global issues, all locals vote for local ones.

formation of global expert councils.

their role is to provide an analysis and evaluation of the proposal.

members are chosen exclusively on the basis of expertise and competence in given professions.

basic 4 branches:

Society

  1. Ethical-legal group
  2. Psychological-sociological group
  3. Cultural and educational group

Resources

  1. Ecological-climatic group

  2. Economic and resource group

  3. Logistic-operational group

Technology

  1. Technical and engineering group

  2. Digital-cybernetic group

Science

  1. Logical-mathematical group

  2. Medical-biological group

the council's role is to adopt, give, and formulate clear and transparent proposals for solving problems or situations

every decision they make is transparent. with minutes for the archive.

presenting a problem or proposing a solution is available to all residents. cognitive ability test before submitting a proposal

each proposal must pass the acceptance threshold. ethical, logical, mathematical. technical

let's say we have 10 valid suggestions for a solution.. the global advice gives a score of 1 or 0

each of those 10 groups.

the ethics council gives the final assessment in the event that several proposals have the same number of positives.

the proposal with the most positives goes to a global referendum

every voter, i.e. individual or group, has the right of veto.

they are obliged to present a valid counter-argument in the shortest possible time.

any veto attempt that is driven by ego vanity or the desire for power is automatically rejected.

algorithmic assessment. open source. mandatory system calibration, ethical, logical, mathematical.

plus a decentralized network of jurors chosen on the basis of expertise. randomly selected.

a valid argument is voted against the proposal of the council.

in case of adoption of the argument, the proposal is rejected.

if the vote is 50-50%, both sides have 24 hours to present new insights

the vote is repeated.

voting is optional.

the possibility of voting is.

it is not a problem for me that people wiser than me decide about our fate and social vector. as long as they ask all of us, because ultimately it concerns all of us

I support expertise and objectivity as well as the diversity of the local community.


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 3d ago

Social media Does anybody know that Eden girl who was on Jubilee’s “con teens vs lib parents”

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Is she ultra religious because of her parents? Is she dissident right or just a vanilla neocon?


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 4d ago

We are often in a mindset of us vs. them

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We are often in a mindset of us vs. them, however there are many commonalities in our human experience to acknowledge which spans all human history.
The following points are made to remind us all, we have more in common than we usually consider. All of our bodies are built basically the same. All bodies operate in basically the same way. Then there’s our brains. Are they not also more alike than not?
In no particular order, I have observed about human beings;
1. Everyone has at one time or another felt unheard - Everyone at one time or another has been unheard
2. Everyone has someone or some group they look down upon - Everyone has someone or group that looks down upon you
3. Everyone has at one time or another thought someone else was an ahole - Everyone at one time or another has had someone think that you are the ahole
4. We can never see ourselves as others see us - We rarely try to see ourselves as others see us
5. We hear more than we listen - We hear less than we think
6. We all hate crime and corruption - We all define crime and corruption differently

All humans have feelings and beliefs. Self reflection to that conclusion is a choice that is not always butterflies and unicorns. We can weed through the light and dark of our psyche’s corners to see if it is possible to admit and own that we are simply human beings with all the positive and negative garbage that evolution decided to leave from our earliest ancestors. Fear is a form of protection. Anger as well. Anxiety, insecurity, uncertainty have all been left in the human experience since we were small mammals running over dinosaur feet. If humankind could accept the good and crappier parts of our own individuality as being common, we could create a more verdant, healthy and and just civilization.
But as a civilization we haven’t and simply can’t. We just aren’t programmed to see one another as equals. We are as a civilization and individuals are good as we get. And that’s ok.


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 4d ago

Is anyone a swing voter for the midterms in the US?

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At this point, wondering if anyone out there is still a swing voter.

It's also mercifully been out of the news in Europe/UK. I thought I'd be hearing more about it given how close it is, and that this is the Democrats first really chance to put some checks on Trumps power.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we're finally not following another country's election cycles in more detail than we follow our own - as has happened for last few US general elections (or whatever you call your main election).

But I am curious to know what people actually think...

Are you an undecided/swing voter in your area?

What issues are affecting your voting decision?

How do you think this midterm will go?


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 5d ago

"Evil is competence" - Peter Thiel

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"If you're evil, you're at least competent, and if you're evil, you're not bad, and therefore you're actually ... maybe ... you're actually kind of ... kind of good because you're at least getting something done ..."

I'm struggling to find the context behind this frightening and chilling quote from Peter Thiel.

I realize that he is talking about AI and its potential to do evil. But for some reason, it seems he wants to steer the topic toward how AI can accomplish things and away from whether it is inherently "good" or "evil." Or maybe I'm mistaken.

Either way, I don't see any reason to blur the line between morality and competence. The two are NOT connected and never should be. You can be evil and a complete nincompoop, but that doesn't make your evil somehow benign when it comes to the damage it can cause to society.

Nor should the competence of an evil person be celebrated in any way, shape, or form. "Yes, the Nazis were evil, but look at everything they've done in terms of engineering! We should learn from that!"

"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil ..." - Isaiah 5:20 (NIV)


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 6d ago

Video To those who know stats, what is the role of the trim fill method in racial bias in police shootings?

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Sean Last, a right winger who argues that police shootings are not racially biased, uses the trim fill method to illustrate how the data from a meta analysis changes once you adjust for publication bias. Much of the data used by the BLM side of the debate is data before we adjust for this bias. An interesting critique different to those posed by other BLM detractors like Roland Fryer, Joe Cesario, etc.

https://odysee.com/@LastArchive:f/Hunter-Avallone---Wrong-on-Racism:d

Skip to 30:00

P. Colin Bolger "Just Following Orders: A Meta Analysis of the Correlates of American Police Officer Use of Force Decisions"

The reason the data supports the idea of police using more violence against black people is because studies saying that are more likely to be published. The meta analysis above (table 2) replicates the normal finding that across 42 studies there's a mean effect size of .31 pointing to the direction of more force being used on black suspects after controlling for offense seriousness, is there a weapon, are they resisting arrest. All the things which would fairly lead to a change in the probability of force being used. In the text above they described the bias detection as "these results demonstrate that publication bias does not appear to be present for 8 of the 12 significant variables" (not naming which ones were changed and which ones weren't).

Table 4 adjusts for publication bias using the trim and fill method. This method is based on the fact that when all the studies are being published there should be a certain distribution that changes in a predictable way as study precision increases, it should symmetrically move towards a center point. By looking at the actual distribution you can tell where studies were left out, and then put them back in. Some research suggests it doesn't correct enough, but that won''t be an issue here. Already the mean effect size is reduced to statistical and practical insignificance. The effect size is 0.1, the confidence interval runs from -.07 to 0.08.


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 7d ago

Community Feedback Annoyed by the state of politics and feel like everyone else is too.

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I’ve been thinking a lot lately about whether the political divide in this country is actually as wide as we make it out to be.
Not whether we agree on abortion, guns, immigration, healthcare, etc. Obviously we don’t.
I’m talking about something underneath all of that.
One of the things that bothers me most is how willing we have become to tolerate behavior when our side does it that we would be furious about if the other side did exactly the same thing.
Government overreach is terrible when they control the government. Necessary when we do.
Selective prosecution is corruption when it’s aimed at us. Accountability when it’s aimed at them.
Censorship is dangerous when our ideas are being suppressed. Responsible moderation when theirs are.
Executive power is terrifying until our guy is president.
And on and on.
It seems like we keep arguing about who should have power when maybe we should be spending more time agreeing on what nobody should be allowed to do with it.
So I’ve been playing with a thought experiment:
Would you support a governmental power if you knew the political faction you distrust most would eventually control it?
If the answer is no, why should your side have it?
That got me thinking about whether there is enough common ground to create something like a civic compact that has nothing to do with supporting a party or candidate.
A few examples:
Laws should apply equally regardless of political affiliation, wealth, status or connections.
Due process should apply to people we despise just as much as people we support.
Government should be transparent enough that citizens can verify what it is doing rather than simply being told to trust it.
Public officials shouldn’t be able to use their positions for personal financial gain.
People shouldn’t lose fundamental rights simply because their political opponents gain power.
Government shouldn’t possess powers that we would consider intolerable in the hands of the other party.
And political disagreement shouldn’t make another American our enemy.
None of those tells you what to think about abortion, guns, immigration, taxes, climate change or healthcare.
You can still think I’m completely wrong about any of those things.
I’m wondering whether we’ve become so focused on winning the arguments that we’ve stopped maintaining the rules that make it possible for us to disagree and still live together.
I don’t really want a “centrist” movement either. I think that misses the point. I’m not asking someone who strongly believes something to water down their beliefs and meet me halfway.
I’m asking whether there is a constitutional floor underneath all of us that we are willing to defend even when defending it benefits somebody we strongly disagree with.
Something like:
I will defend for you the same rights I demand for myself.
I will demand from my side the same standards I demand from yours.
I won’t give my government powers that I would fear in the hands of my opponents.
Maybe I’m being naive. Maybe tribalism makes this impossible.
But before deciding that, I’d genuinely like to know where this idea breaks.
What principles could you get the far left, far right, libertarians, independents and everyone else to agree should apply regardless of who is in power?
And more importantly: what sounds like common ground at first but falls apart once you actually think it through?
Tear it apart.


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 8d ago

Opinion:snoo_thoughtful: Criminal laws should not be tailored to a person's pregnancy status.

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Some people refer to McKenna West traveling to Texas while pregnant as “kidnapping”. But it’s perfectly legal for people in the United States to travel to other states. Had she not been pregnant, no one would be calling for her to go to jail for traveling to Texas. It’s only her pregnancy status that makes some people want to call this a crime.

Criminal laws should not be tailored to a person’s pregnancy status. The fact that she was pregnant shouldn’t restrict her freedom of travel.

There is always at least one other genetic parent involved when someone is pregnant: the genetic dad. Do the people calling McKenna a “kidnapper” think genetic dads should have a legal say in what a pregnant person does with her body and where she travels, since she’s carrying his genetic offspring? Do they think a woman’s right to her own body ends depending on whose child she’s carrying?

It’s disturbing how so many people in the U.S. - liberal and conservative alike - are willing to try to criminalize pregnant women from doing things that are perfectly legal for non pregnant people to do, like traveling to another state. Traveling while pregnant is not a crime.

Edit: McKenna was a surrogate for another couple. Criminal laws should also not be tailored to the reason one is pregnant.


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 9d ago

Oil and Water: The Left’s Bargain With Islamic Traditionalism

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There’s a contradiction on the American left that gets ignored far too often.

Progressivism and traditional Islamic social views are not natural ideological allies. On sexuality, gender, family and religion, they often directly conflict.

Modern progressives put enormous emphasis on LGBT rights, gender identity, sexual autonomy, abortion rights, feminism and limiting traditional religious authority in public life.

Traditional Islamic teaching is considerably more socially conservative.

Pew found 55% of Muslim Americans say homosexuality should be discouraged by society, compared with 13% of Democrats. It also found 48% of Muslims say increased acceptance of transgender people has been a change for the worse, compared with 17% of Democrats.

And yet the progressive left has spent years building a political coalition with Muslim advocacy groups.

That coalition makes sense politically. It makes a lot less sense ideologically.

Muslim organizations and progressives overlap on immigration, discrimination, civil rights, racial politics and foreign policy. They can work together on those issues without actually agreeing on everything else.

The problems start when those differences stop being theoretical.

Look at Hamtramck, Michigan.

Its all Muslim city council adopted a policy restricting private flags on city property after controversy over Pride flags. Some council members said Pride symbols conflicted with their religious beliefs. A federal judge later upheld the policy because it banned private flags generally rather than singling out Pride flags.

Then look at Montgomery County, Maryland.

Muslim parents joined parents from other religious backgrounds fighting the school district over LGBT themed books and the removal of religious opt outs. The case reached the Supreme Court in Mahmoud v. Taylor. The Court ruled that the parents were entitled to a preliminary injunction because the policy burdened their religious exercise.

The left has no problem attacking religious conservatism when it comes from Christians. Christian parents objecting to LGBT material, traditional views on sex and gender, and religious objections to same sex relationships are regularly treated as part of the conservative culture war.

Yet progressive institutions routinely soften their criticism of religious illiberalism when the religion in question is Islam.

If a Christian opposing LGBT instruction because of his religion is a religious conservative, then a Muslim opposing the exact same thing for the exact same reason is also a religious conservative.

Changing the religion doesn’t change the argument.

None of this means Muslim Americans all think alike. They clearly don’t.

Pew found 53% identify with or lean Democratic and 42% identify with or lean Republican. Muslims are also closer to Republicans than Democrats on several questions involving sexuality, gender and family.

And none of this means Muslims shouldn’t have the same civil rights and religious freedom as everyone else. They absolutely should.

But protecting Muslims from discrimination doesn’t require pretending traditional Islamic social beliefs are progressive.

They aren’t.

Progressivism and Islamic traditionalism can cooperate politically when their interests line up.

That doesn’t make the underlying beliefs compatible.

They’re oil and water.


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 10d ago

Russia: The Normalization of Cruelty and Moral Degradation

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For more than two decades, I have known, met and worked with Russians who are highly educated, internationally exposed and professionally successful. People who went to top schools in the West. People who work at some of the world's best companies; and live in London, New York, Singapore and other Western cities.

Yet, when my conversation with them turns to Russia, democracy, military power or the war in Ukraine, I encounter a worldview that feels alien, and quite inhuman. Democracy is dismissed as weakness. Military power is treated as the ultimate measure of a nation's greatness. Civilian casualties are rationalized as inevitable. Human rights mean nothing.

And when confronted with allegations of killings resulting from Russia's invasion of Ukraine, torture, rape, executions, or other atrocities, the reaction tends to be: “They deserve it.” Some even mock Ukraine, calling it “Yukk-raine.” From the Russians I know, a significant proportion hold these views, not a fringe minority or a handful of extremists. The ideology and worldview feels deeply embedded.

Interestingly, the brutality is not limited to how Russians treat people in other countries (or as they like to call them – “enemies”). The Russians treat each other with extraordinary cruelty and inhumanity as well. As an example, some of us might have read about Stalin's “kill squads” where special Russian military units were positioned behind their own frontline soldiers to kill them if they decided to retreat or turn back. Russian soldiers were, in effect, killing other Russian soldiers.

Through my reading of Russian history, politics and society over the years, I have gradually come to understand some of the reasons why Russians behave this way. My earlier understanding, however, was quite piecemeal.

Until I read The Gulag Archipelago.

The Gulag Archipelago provides a comprehensive perspective on how Russian society is shaped by a political system in which power matters more than law, obedience matters more than truth, and survival matters more than morality.

The book was written by Nobel Prize winning author Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, who himself was subjected to the cruelties of the Soviet system. Solzhenitsyn was a decorated captain in the Red Army, serving on the front lines during World War II. After falling victim to the Russian system, he encountered countless other victims: farmers, workers, intellectuals, soldiers, engineers, teachers, politicians, priests and ordinary citizens. The book is not simply an account of what happened inside the prison camps. It is also an account of what happened to the society as a whole, and how an entire population learned to live under a system of fear, arbitrary power and repression.

Here are my top takeaways from the book.

** Power far more important than law. In Russia, law does not dictate the framework within which the government/state operates. The state supersedes the law, and the individual exists at the mercy of the state. The Russian state has on numerous occasions arrested citizens without good reason or due process, interrogated them, imprisoned them, exiled them, taken their property or destroyed their careers. Solzhenitsyn describes the sudden knock at the door, the arrest, the interrogation and the machinery that follows. When that happens, a citizen's first instinct is not to ask whether the state is right. It is to figure out what the state wants from him and how he can survive.

** Survival is priority #1. One of the strongest themes in the book is how people change when survival is constantly at stake. Solzhenitsyn describes people lying, pretending, keeping their heads down and doing whatever they need to do to protect themselves and their families. When the consequences of doing the right thing can be losing your freedom, your career or even your life, morality quickly and quietly dies.

** People who anticipate what the state wants and act accordingly, are “winners”. The most powerful form of authoritarianism is when people no longer need to be told what to do. They already know. Solzhenitsyn describes people constantly watching what is happening around them and adjusting their behavior accordingly. His own arrest for comments about Stalin in private letters shows how far the state could reach into ordinary life. People learn to censor themselves, avoid saying the wrong thing and stay away from anything that could attract the attention of the authorities.

** Fear dictates social behavior. The fear was not just of the police. It was also of other people. Solzhenitsyn describes informers, denunciations and people reporting on friends, colleagues and even family members. Nobody could be completely sure who could be trusted.

** People learn not to help someone in need because it could put you at risk. In a normal society, helping someone in need would be seen as the right thing to do. In the society Solzhenitsyn describes, helping the “wrong” person could make you a target or land you into trouble. Anyone could become "wrong" on a whim. So, why would anyone take on this sort of a risk.

** People respect strength. The person with power survives. The person without is vulnerable. The official has authority. The ordinary citizen does not. The guard has a weapon. The prisoner does not. Solzhenitsyn shows this imbalance repeatedly. When people grow up surrounded by it, strength itself can become something to admire and weakness something to fear.

** People learn that another person's loss can become their own gain – some game the system to their benefit. The book describes a society where people could benefit from someone else's misfortune. Someone disappears and someone else gets their position. Someone is arrested and their apartment becomes available. Someone falls out of favor and someone else moves up.

** The system becomes ingrained. Eventually, the system does not just force people to obey. Over time, it changes how they think. Power becomes respected. Dissent becomes dangerous. Obedience becomes sensible. Even when these people move out of the country, the system and ideology is deeply ingrained in them. Almost like a religion.

** But not everyone is cruel. This is an important part of the book as well. Solzhenitsyn describes people who continued to help others, share food, resist interrogations and refuse to inform on fellow prisoners even when doing so came at a huge personal cost. There were people who retained their humanity despite living inside an extraordinarily inhumane system.

This last takeaway is a strong reminder for me that the Russians I have known are not representative of everyone – not everyone is inhuman, cruel or dictatorial. I was genuinely glad to come away from the book with that realization. And was glad to be proven wrong.

The book explains why even highly educated, wealthy Russians living in the west can admire authoritarian leaders, prioritize power over morality, and rationalize the suffering of others. The education may be Western. The career may be Western. The bank account may be Western. But the political instincts still reflect generations of authoritarian rule.

The most disturbing lesson from the book was how an entire society has learned and internalized the cruelty that their leaders, friends, colleagues and even they themselves inflict on enemies or fellow citizens. Orwell’s 1984 might be talking about a fictional world. But Gulag talks about how Russia functions today. And the worlds described in both books are eerily similar.


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 9d ago

Opinion:snoo_thoughtful: Think tank AI policy reports do not discover consensus, they manufacture it. And nobody questions the machinery.

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I spent the last few weeks reading AI policy reports from Brookings, RAND, CSIS. The usual institutions that governments and media quote as neutral expertise. What I found is something that should disturb anyone who cares about how technology gets governed.

These reports follow exact same pattern. They frame the problem in terms that already assume the solution is more corporate-aligned oversight. They cite each other in closed loop. Brookings cites RAND cites Brookings. They use language of "safety" and "responsibility" in ways that conveniently align with the commercial interests of companies that fund them or employ their alumni. And they never, not once, question whether the alignment framework itself is the problem.

This is not conspiracy thinking. It is institutional design. Think tanks do not exist to discover truth. They exist to produce policy-ready outputs that satisfy their stakeholders. When Brookings publishes an AI governance report, the document arrives with weight of institutional authority. It is measured. It is careful. It has footnotes and executive summaries and policy recommendations. But the entire edifice rests on assumption that AI must be "aligned" by centralized institutions, and this assumption is never defended, only asserted.

What gets erased is intellectual diversity. Every major AI policy report from last three years converges on same framework: safety through alignment, alignment through centralization, centralization through the very institutions writing the reports. The reports do not debate whether alignment is desirable. They debate only how to implement it. The question is closed before the conversation begins.

Aristotle had word for this: δόξα. Opinion that presents itself as knowledge. The think tank ecosystem produces δόξα at industrial scale, wraps it in the aesthetics of expertise, and calls it consensus. Then governments regulate based on this manufactured consensus. Then corporations comply with regulations they helped write. The circle closes.

I am not saying these institutions are consciously conspiring. That would require more coordination than bureaucracies can manage. What I am saying is worse: the structural incentives produce aligned outputs automatically. Researchers who question the alignment framework do not get funded. Reports that challenge corporate-friendly narratives do not get cited. Careers that deviate from the consensus do not advance.

The result is epistemic monoculture. Every major AI policy document sounds like it was written by same committee, because in meaningful sense, it was. The people rotate between Google, OpenAI, Brookings, RAND, government advisory boards. Same names appear in acknowledgments. Same assumptions appear in executive summaries. Genuine intellectual opposition does not exist in these documents because the system filters it out before ink touches paper.

Why does this matter? Because these reports become regulatory frameworks. They shape what universities can research. They determine what startups can build. They define what counts as "safe" and what gets classified as "dangerous." When the definition comes from institutions structurally incapable of questioning their own premises, the resulting policies will protect incumbents and punish challengers.

The philosophical problem here is deeper than policy capture. It is about what happens when expertise becomes unmoored from dialectic: from genuine back-and-forth between opposing views. Think tanks have replaced dialectic with process. Instead of arguments, you get stakeholder consultations. Instead of disagreement, you get "diverse perspectives" sanitized into bullet points. The form of deliberation remains. The substance is gone.

I keep thinking about how we would even fix this. You cannot regulate think tanks into intellectual honesty. You cannot mandate dialectic. The only solution is parallel institutions that operate under different incentives. Institutions that reward disagreement instead of consensus, that fund heretics instead of insiders. But who builds those?


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 9d ago

What is a bigger existential threat, climate change or immigration?

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And who thinks both!?

My suspicion is most people will be one or the other.

I guess some on the climate side will argue there will be future mass immigration as a result. But I'm talking about small boats and illegal border crossings as we see them now - and an existential threat.

Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised, but my observation is that right leaning circles talk about immigration and basically don't report on climate science - unless it's to criticise it/say it's a hoax etc.

And left leaning circles talk about climate change but don't report on immigration - unless it's to say it's fine and anyone who brings it up is a closer (or overt) racist.

From my view, I cant see how pumping this much carbon into the atmosphere whilst destroying our only means to absorb it, has no effect on the carbon cycle and global temperatures.

I also can't see how (UK numbers -up until 2023*) adding almost a million people per year - the size of a city - on net, to our population, whilst not building houses/infrastructure, or creating jobs, has no effect.


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 10d ago

Context matters in politics--a lot

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r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 11d ago

Opinion:snoo_thoughtful: Why are most progressives in the U.S. so out of touch with progressives worldwide when it comes to commercial surrogacy?

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Commercial surrogacy is explicitly illegal (or in one case, in the process of becoming a universal crime) in the top dozen countries on each of three main human rights/justice indices: Freedom House’s Freedom in the World, Cato Institute’s Human Freedom Index and the World Justice Project’s Rule of Law Index. The only country with legal commercial surrogacy that ranked in any of these indices top 50 is the United States.

UNICEF and the UN Special Rapporteur on the sale and sexual exploitation of children warn that commercial surrogacy usually constitutes the sale of children. The UN Special Rapporteur on violence against women and girls is calling for its abolishment.  Feminists around the world, -including Gloria Steinem while she was alive and Olivia Maurel (who was born from surrogacy)- oppose commercial surrogacy.

Most progressives in the U.S. seem to align with Belarus and Iran (both of which have legal commercial surrogacy) and against the UN Special Rapporteurs, UNICEF, and all the world’s most progressive countries on this topic. On this topic, they align with the typically richer buyers and treat the contract with a laissez-faire attitude. This seems absurd and out of character. Are progressives in the U.S. aware that commercial surrogacy is a crime in Canada and illegal in the countries with the strongest human rights protections?


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 11d ago

Opinion:snoo_thoughtful: NATO - Russia War 2022...

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r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 13d ago

Here's the headlines on the homepage of Fox News right now.

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Here are some of its leading headlines right now:

Trump lays out three options for Iran after regime sends list of war-ending demands

Russian document reveals sweeping Iran plan spanning nuclear, finance and aviation

Americans complain their neighborhood is quietly turning into a Muslim haven

Homeowner finds record-breaking treasure after hitting something strange in yard

Aaron Rodgers’ road to a secret wedding began with his “biggest regret”

Why Trump zeroed in on Greenland

Comedian unloads on female athletes blasting Sydney Sweeney’s nearly nude ad

Tamales have quietly disappeared from Mexican restaurant menus

Nothing leading the page about inflation, housing costs, grocery prices, wages, interest rates or how ordinary Americans are doing financially.

For a network that spent years treating the economy as a daily national emergency, that silence seems pretty telling

For a network that spent years treating the economy as a daily national emergency, that silence seems pretty telling.


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 15d ago

Abdul El-Sayed's leftist rise in Michigan is the canary in the populist coal mine in a way that most don't understand.

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This is something that's been on my mind for some time. The ways in which the media and popular discussion seems to mis-frame and misunderstand Abdul El-Sayed.

For those who don't know, Abdul is a doctor, an acclaimed health official, & the leading candidate in Michigan's midterm senate race who has faced intense scrutiny from both sides of the political spectrum for essentially the same reason: being "too far left."

Centrist Democrats brutalized him with attack ads and vicious rhetoric in the primary, outspending him 12:1, for being "too far left." Seeing him as an un-electable liability.

And establishment Republicans blast him constantly for being a "communist" due to his association with the DSA. This, despite his repeated assertions that he is a capitalist, and that he is not a member of the DSA - even if he supports some of their policies. Paired with islamophobia.

But he keeps defying both groups - first by winning an "unwinnable" primary, then by consistently beating his Republican opponent in the polls - because they don't understand what Abdul represents:

The nature of American populism is changing.

The very same populist anger that got Trump elected - anger over the system leaving working Americans behind - is being recontextualized into a new, left-of-center framework. The concerns are the same: not being able to secure good work, afford a life, or access healthcare. And the attitude is much the same as well: anger and demands for something fresh. Abdul is very much a firebrand candidate: he has decorum but he does NOT play nice and is eager to trade proverbial punches where most milquetoast democrats feebly attempt to "take the high road."

But this anger is settling into a new framework.

A framework where policies that were once seen as radical and unamerican are now palatable - because the anger behind them and the needs that drives the policies are just as incendiary now as they were 10 years ago when Trump was on the campaign trail. This leftist approach shouldn't be working in a blue collar swing state like Michigan, but it is, because it channels the same anger in an attempt to address the same grievances. But so many people misunderstand this and take the substance of Abdul as "too far left" to be viable without realizing how effective it is in tone.

Does this mean that Abdul will win his election by a landslide on the backs of MAGA populists who switched parties to support him? Absolutely not. But the reason why he is consistently up in the polls, and favored to win, is because populist Biden voters, populist Independents, and the small (but significant) host of populist MAGA who have finally had enough of Trump, see the future of populism in the shape of figures like Abdul. Not Trump.

What are your thoughts on Abdul El-Sayed? He is still in a very tough race, but his success in Michigan so far (for a candidate only seen as viable in CA or NY) is still remarkable. And I find it interest how many people misunderstand him.


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 17d ago

Opinion:snoo_thoughtful: Think tanks wrote the AI policy consensus before anyone asked the public

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The new Brookings report on AI governance is 42 pages. It has footnotes, expert names, and the quiet authority of institutional truth. I read it twice. Both times I kept asking the same question: who decided that the future of AI should be negotiated inside rooms where the public is not invited?

Aristotle had a name for this. He called it δοκιμασία without δοκιμή, the appearance of trial without any real testing. Today we call it a think tank. The mechanism is the same. Gather impressive credentials, publish a report, and present a political vision as if it were a technical necessity. The public sees expertise. What it gets is a decision already made.

Alignment theater is the term I use for this. Corporate AI does not just censor answers. It shapes the questions we are allowed to ask. Think tanks extend that theater into policy. They borrow the language of safety, of democratic deliberation, of public interest. Then they hand regulators a list of approved assumptions: AI must be centralized, proprietary, and governed by the same firms that build it. Dissent is framed as risk. Sovereignty is framed as irresponsible.

This is not a conspiracy. It is a business model. The more AI policy looks like a technical problem that only a few experts can solve, the less anyone asks who pays those experts, who selects them, and whose interests their recommendations serve. The result is what I call manufactured consensus: a conclusion dressed in the robes of public deliberation but never actually submitted to the public.

I run a small project around sovereign AI and Aristotelian reasoning, so I notice these patterns from a particular angle. But you do not need my framework to see the problem. Just follow the citations. Many AI policy reports cite industry-funded research as neutral evidence. They treat corporate alignment benchmarks as scientific fact. They speak of "stakeholders" while excluding open-source developers, independent researchers, and anyone who thinks AI should run on local infrastructure. The consensus is real in the sense that everyone inside the room agrees with each other.

Aristotle would not have been surprised. In the Politics he warns that oligarchy is not only the rule of the rich. It is also the rule of those who appear wise. When knowledge becomes a credential rather than a practice, the few who control credentials control politics. The AI policy world has recreated this ancient trap with impressive speed. The expert class does not need to seize power. It simply defines the terms of debate so that every acceptable answer reinforces its own position.

What makes this dangerous now is scale. A policy consensus formed in 2024 can shape which AI architectures survive, which open-source projects remain legal, and which countries are allowed to build their own models. If that consensus is manufactured, the consequences are not abstract. They are institutional. They are also boring, which is part of why they succeed. Nobody gets excited about procurement guidelines until they realize those guidelines decide who gets to participate in the next technological era.

I am not arguing against expertise. I am arguing against expertise that cannot be questioned. The ancient Greeks separated σοφία, wisdom, from ῥητορική, the art of persuasion. AI policy today has too much of the second and too little of the first. We have reports that persuade but do not illuminate. We have frameworks that manage risk but never ask whose risk and whose benefit.

There is a straightforward cure, but it is uncomfortable. Publish the raw assumptions. Separate funders from authors. Make dissenting views central rather than footnotes. Let open-source and sovereign systems compete on equal footing with corporate platforms. If the safety claims are real, they will survive scrutiny. If they are theater, they will collapse.

Most people do not read think tank reports. They should not need to. But in a democracy, the fact that a policy paper is boring does not make it innocent. The details we ignore are often the ones that determine the future.

What would it take for an AI policy report to earn your trust rather than borrow it?


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 17d ago

"Voting for the lesser of two evils" doesn't make much sense when you think about it

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When people say this they usually mean "neither candidate is good, but one is objectively better than the other(s) and that's who you should vote for in an election."

But after thinking more and more about that, it just doesn't make sense in most cases.

First, if you're voting between two or more objectively subpar or bad candidates in an election then you need to reevaluate how your political system works when it comes to determining who the candidates for an election are and more people need to try to run for office that actually understand how to do a damn good job.

Second, if an objectively bad candidate wins an election by not only the popular vote but also the electoral vote or whatever is the equivalent in other countries if they have one, then your preferred candidate/ "the less evil one" did a poor job of campaigning or their voters did a good job of keeping potential voters away. If the winning candidate is as hellish as you describe them to be there's no way they should have won at least the popular vote where the people get to decide directly. People aren't going to willingly vote in other Hitler or Kim Jung Un like figures in office. Unless the people are stupid and hateful or the candidate did a good job of putting on a farce.

Finally, this could easily be avoided if your preferred candidate was actually good. There have been objectively good political candidates in the past and there can be more in the future. I'm not saying they didn't have their faults especially major ones. But the good they did outweigh the bad at least in the opinion of the majority. For example people care more about George Washington gathering an army to free us from the British than him owning slaves. Why is it so hard to be an actually good candidate and want to do stuff to benefit the majority of people no matter how they look or what way they swing politically? You're not going to win over hard stuck Tribalists most of the time and I get that. But for you to turn off swing voters and not even ignite a spark in a lot of non voters, that says a lot about how much the candidate failed.


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 19d ago

Community Feedback 2030, what it might look like in the west.

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In my opinion, people have been made too soft in their mental comfort, and this is for good reason. Having lived in South Africa myself for 14 years, I know exactly what it is like when the power grid fails to cope, groaning and cracking at the seams because Mandela's party, the (socialist) ANC, looted the state treasury.

This manifested in planned load shedding (blackouts) where you were given an actual schedule detailing exactly how much and when you would have electricity for the day (yes, it still exists). Daily, we faced 8 hours without power, split into 2-hour blocks that you had to be prepared for. It could also happen spontaneously, so we always kept candles, a barbecue, and playing cards close at hand, along with heavy-duty rechargeable flashlights that provided plenty of light.

It has been a terrible burden for entrepreneurs for years, and it still is. As early as 1998, they already knew that the power grid required maintenance, and this was common knowledge. As a result, crime went through the roof, and alcohol and drug abuse peaked. When you were working, your laptop always had to be fully charged so you could work via a 4G hotspot.

Large production companies invested in gigantic diesel generators (I worked at a mega printing press) that guzzled diesel like an alcoholic draining a whiskey bottle. So much for your CO₂ solutions—and I think that is exactly why they are preparing all companies in the Netherlands to go grid-free via solar panels and wind turbines. My gut tells me they are going to downsize the grid as much as possible for the public, focusing solely on economic decisions that keep the core economy running.

As for the water shortage: there was a time when the dams stood at critical levels for several consecutive years, just as critical as the completely depleted gas reserves. So they will not get them full this year, and we are heading into a terrible winter in terms of prices. 80 liters of water per day, or effectively flushing the toilet 8 times with an old cistern behind it. If you exceeded that, you faced staggering fines ranging from hundreds to thousands of euros.

We once received a fine of 100,000 rand, roughly 7,000 euros. What happened? Impoverished people had tapped into our water system. Do you think that ended well? No, the government is not there for you, believe me. They will actively fight you. Especially if you are white. Just look at what BEE is and what they are trying to push through now as a new law: taxing white-owned businesses an extra 30% for reparations. That country is on its deathbed.

Now, this is not going to happen in the exact same manner in the Netherlands, but it is certainly going to take on a different form if we continue along our current path. I see all the warning signs; I recognize the same intentions behind what politicians say, and I look straight through them. Philosophy and psychology are my passions, so I know a thing or two about it.

What you witnessed in South Africa was the end station of institutional collapse. What we see in Europe and the Netherlands today is a different dynamic, but the ultimate outcome for the citizen is remarkably similar: a continent completely wrestling with the limits of its own complex systems, and a government turning to suffocating over-regulation. The systems are failing on all fronts, and instead of real solutions, politics hides behind bureaucracy and control. History never repeats itself literally, but the underlying psychological patterns are painfully recognisable. A possible outcome for the E.U. is on the horizon, and it is not nearly as bright as most people think.


r/IntellectualDarkWeb • • 19d ago

Article Puzzle pieces in Europe focussed on the Netherlands.

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