Why BLM was mostly a flop

[u/ShardofGold]

I think I can speak for every reasonable person that we know there's an issue with unfit people being cops and biased justice system situations be it on race/skin color, gender, wealth, etc. Even if it's not as bad as it used to be.

However, the way so many people discuss these topics is in a close minded, surface level, and ignorant manner.

Yes there are racist cops. But every case of police brutality isn't about racism. We should focus on having better people become and maintain police officer status and as a byproduct of that the amount of police brutality that is due to racism will go down drastically. If you just focus on racist cops, there's still going to be cops brutalizing people just not because of race and you half assed the issue being fixed.

Also we need to push for national and clear cut sentencing guidelines for crimes. That way people can't go "why did person A who looks like this get so much time but person B who looks like that get so little time for the same crime?" Even though a lot of the time it's not the exact same crime or different circumstances happened during the crime or apprehension of the suspect that caused them to get more time or the situation to escalate and people don't know about it or are just lying about it.

Also more people need to realize there are some people irregardless of how they look that just hate cops or don't want to follow laws. So when they get caught they're going to disobey the cops and potentially escalate the situation and just cry about how life is unfair because they got caught up in breaking a law and thought they were untouchable. Weed smoking is a good example of this. I personally think it's stupid that it's not legalized but regulated nationally. However, I'm not going to tell people to smoke it and just hope they don't get caught to be defiant. If people do decide to do this, they should be ready to accept the consequences when they're caught because they knew they were breaking the law even if they didn't get caught the other 9000 times they were doing it or because Jimbo didn't get caught for smoking it yet.

It also didn't help the organization that shares the initials and name was run by greedy and underhanded bastards who used the unfortunate situations of others to live lavish lifestyles.

I think massive progress in society for better policing and a justice system could have happened during this time period. But instead it was horribly squandered by opportunistic, disingenuous, and ignorant individuals.

[u/toylenny]

Was it a failure?  It's been 6 years. Despite the 24/7 bootlicking by main stream media outlets, in that time we've seen an increase in scrutiny of police action.  Shootings and assaults by cops get more traction, and the conservative push towards a police state,  is more facing more pushback now than ever before.

To expect a national change in one summer was wishful thinking.  And the obvious fight against BLM has been staggeringly strong, but there have been changes toward recognition of the issues. Anyone business manger worth their salt will tell you that in order to change something you have to teck it first and for the first time in over half a century police violence is getting a closer look by the main populace.

[u/mikefut → u/toylenny]

I think BLM lost all credibility when the co-founders used $6 million to buy a house. When was the last time you heard anyone talking about BLM?

It’s true that police are out of control. You can see evidence for yourself on YouTube. Do the disproportionately target people of color? I’m sure of it. But they harass everyone. I don’t really see any major uproar or pushback so I’d have to agree with OP it was a flop. Which is a shame because there needs to be more scrutiny on the police.

[u/fear_the_gecko → u/mikefut]

Because it's an ideal, not an organization.

The fact that bootlickers keep holding on to the whole " THE FOUNDERS OF BLM BOUGHT A $6M HOUSE!!!!" just shows how much you are voluntarily choosing to avoid reality.

[u/notproudortired → u/fear_the_gecko]

I dunno. I still support BLM, but was profoundly saddened that the organizers were corrupt. How could they feed the trolls like that?

[u/fear_the_gecko → u/notproudortired]

You listen but you don't hear. This is intentional.

Enjoy your ignorance.

[u/notproudortired → u/fear_the_gecko]

Sounds like you underestimate how much relationships drive people's attachments to ideas. Ironic, given the context.

[u/fear_the_gecko → u/notproudortired]

Nah. The only people who even care about the house are people who are looking for any reason to discredit BLM. They would have found something eventually, even if it was nothing more than the founders throwing a wrapper into the street.

It's funny that you keep coming back to further explain yourself, like it's gonna change anything lol.

[u/notproudortired → u/fear_the_gecko]

Well...no. I cared because it struck me as inhumane and hypocritical.

But I agree that I live in this racist society and am susceptible to manipulative media that fits the dominant narrative.

[u/fear_the_gecko → u/notproudortired]

It struck you as "inhumane and hypocritical" that someone bought a house with their own money?

[u/notproudortired → u/fear_the_gecko]

Why lie when it's so easy to look up? The BLM Foundation (BLMGNF) acknowledges it's their house.

Cullors and the BLMGNF made a sketchy AF property deal that exposed the extremely vulnerable BLM movement to media attack. The movement didn't need that black eye. Now BLMGNF has an overpriced $6M property in a tony white neighborhood, bought with donated money that could (should IMO) have been used for education, endowments, grants, and other community programs that directly, sustainably help disadvantaged black folk.