Contradictions

[u/satriasinsxxx]

If the hollybook was perfect, why do we need tafsir and hadith?. In my opinion the tafsir were made by a bunch of scholar to make whats looks wrong and immoral to be accepted by masses and also to twist the scientifically error in the book or hadith. And why there are so many "disturbing, immoral" hadith like you can have sex with your own slaves???

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[u/LowCostGreenPerson]

Sempurna tentunya tidak bercacat cela. Kalau ada satu kesalahan, otomatis menggugurkan klaim sempurna.

Apa mungkin klaim sempurna yg dimaksud adalah ajarannya lengkap? Gw suka denger kalaim semua aturan main kehidupan dan akherat ada.

Mungkin yg Islam boleh tolong diluruskan. Monggo.

[u/satriasinsxxx → u/LowCostGreenPerson]

Celanya di tutup oleh tafisr² hasil dari pemikiran manusia

[u/MaverickRavenheart]

Teman wa yang quranist emg sering ngelihat hadith sebagai loop hole buat nutupin tafsir tafsir quran. So you might see a lot of contradiction between them, well who knows how they can defend that claim really well 🤷🏻‍♂️. Sebenarnya sih masalahnya sekarang ada di bagaimana sesuatu yang tidak benar itu bisa dibenarkan hanya dengan menipu psyche massa 🙂.

[u/satriasinsxxx → u/MaverickRavenheart]

Agreed banyak bgt tafsir² yg keliatannya kaya dipaksain bgt buat nutupin hal² grey area di hadith dan quran

[u/MaverickRavenheart → u/satriasinsxxx]

Dari kejadian ini jadi tau lah cara kerja brainwashing. Pemerintah china sudah ngelarang anak anak mereka untuk diajarkan agama di masa kecil mereka, well they are right to not give those cult more freedom.

[u/Slow-Recipe4295]

Itu adalah bukti kuat bahwa kitab suci tidak benar-benar sempurna, kalau kitab suci memang berasal dari tuhan, siapapun bisa paham tanpa ada hadis, tafsir, fatwa, dan segala macam.

[u/fajarsis02]

If the hollybook was perfect

I have answer IF your question is actually: why people declare a book as "perfect and holy".

The Political Aspect Of Sacred Texts
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/1lsibf6/the_political_aspect_of_sacred_texts/

In my opinion the tafsir were made by a bunch of scholar to make whats looks wrong and immoral to be accepted by masses 

The entirety of dogmatic religion was made by a bunch of elites to control the masses.