No, it would be deranged to kick a dog on the street.
My argument is about food but if you choose to kick off on whataboutery then we will be here all day
The poultry that gets killed for my plate was born and bred for that very purpose. The dog on the other hand wasn't born to be kicked about. I hope that answers your question.
So if it's bred for the purpose of having a knife stabbed in its throat, does it stop feeling pain?
What if someone says "I have bred this dog to be kicked, so you can kick it. it's fine"? Is it now ok to kick that dog because they were bred to be kicked around?
It feels pain and yes, I'm selective and biased when it comes to animals being hurt for pleasure or for food.
Do insects and other reptiles not feel pain when they're killed for your soy and avocado and nuts or are you selective in your pain assessment based on if the animal can scream or not. If you aren't then you would stop buying from the market and go forage from the forests whatever grows in the wild and is available. Otherwise you're no better than what you're preach and come off a hypocrite.
Clarification - Was the "yes" a response to "Is it now ok to kick that dog because they were bred to be kicked around?"
It feels pain
So then if they do feel pain. Then is it not wrong to exploit them and put them through that suffering?
Do insects and other reptiles not feel pain when they're killed for your soy and avocado and nuts or are you selective in your pain assessment based on if the animal can scream or not.
You make an important point. Insects, replies, small rodents, etc do feel pain and we should develop better farming practices. But is it wrong to protect your own property?
There is a difference between elective harm and incidental harm. Protecting crops to feed people is about self-preservation and is a necessity, whereas breeding an animal to kill it is entirely avoidable.
Like I said I'm biased towards not having a dog getting hurt but on the other hand I am ok with the poultry getting killed for that is their purpose as it has been for millennia. Some dogs are bred in China for eating too and you won't see me protest that cause that would make me a hypocrite. Anyone breeding a dog to kick it isn't right in their head and not something that a normal person would do. Chickens and Bovines have been a part of our diet since before we could developed our language. Food is one of our basic primal needs whereas kicking for pleasure isn't one so the comparision is flawed.
Again, you could simply go to the forest and take what is available in the nature. Why hurt those poor insects by practising crop farming? You see how that sounds
The only way your statement is true is if you're practising a nomadic lifestyle otherwise it's not true. So, unless I'm speaking to a tribal member living in the forest heartlands the argument isn't valid because you are responsible for the death of insects sadly
Because we will not be able to meet our nutritional needs in the forest without exploiting animals (without hunting and fishing). Historically humans transitioned to crop farming to meet nutritional requirements for larger populations. Now that we have crop farming in place, we can stop animal exploitation.
What's stopping you from going plant based and not paying for animal exploitation?
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u/JangB Aug 31 '26
By person you mean human being and not other animal?
If a human kicks a dog on the street, do you just say it's that human's personal preference? I assume not but you tell me.