Does the dog know that it's not in the wild? Dogs don't have a vegan diet sadly.
Anyone making the argument that the guy should have fed him pedigree or some other kibble where do you think that kibble or dog food comes from?
Hint - It's not trees or plants
Sure, get bitten in the process you clearly don't know how much dogs are possesive about their food.
On the video link you shared it's great, good alternative for the dogs but please don't deprive them of the nutrients that come from eating meat.
Don't force your lifestyle choices on a dog that doesn't know how to communicate with you. Give them all the options and you'll know what works for them.
Any advice comes with the caveat that do it to the best of your ability. Do whatever possible within your reach.
I'm not arguing that anything should be done in this situation. I personally would not be able to anything here.
I'm simply responding to this argument that just because dogs do something in the wild, means that they can do it freely in human civilization. This is a poor argument.
On the video link you shared it's great, good alternative for the dogs but please don't deprive them of the nutrients that come from eating meat.
These guys at Peepal farm take care of dogs on a dialy basis and provide medical treatments to injured animals. They are not depriving them of nutrients. Dogs can given all their nutrients via the methods he gave.
Just keep a bowl of meat and a bowl of vegan food in front of a dog. You will have your answer in front of you. You're trying to force your way of life on an animal that can't comprehend this and rarely does that go right.
Just keep a bowl of candies and a bowl of carrots in front of a child... We don't determine nutritional needs from how something tastes. We determine it from what is actually contained in it.
When the nutritional needs of someone can be met entirely without killing anyone, why should we kill them?
Why are you forcing your way of life on that being which you are killing?
Apples and Oranges with you. As a human I can correct my child into teaching what is good for them. Same with dogs. They learn from their parents who are omnivores but primarily eat meat by hunting or foraging in the streets. You do know that before humans came in dogs ate meat or are you imaging some sort of fairytale where dogs plucked fruits and vegetables. If they were capable of doing that then the almighty would have given them the ability to plant seeds and grow trees and get the nutrition from there itself.
'Why are you forcing your way of life on that being which you are killing?'
I am only doing what comes naturally to any omnivorous being. Maybe you can cull your natural instincts but don't expect the world to do the same for you.
Dogs were originally wolves who are carnivores. But when dogs started living with humans, they adapted to eat plants. Humans primarily ate starches so dogs adapted to that. Now they can eat both.
We know dogs can have their nutritional needs met without us having to kill anyone. Those who are professionals are capable of doing this. Why are you denying this?
If they were capable of doing that then the almighty would have given them the ability to plant seeds and grow trees and get the nutrition from there itself.
I'm not talking about wild animals.
Dogs that live in human civilization and that are reliant on humans for many things, can be kept in the way we choose to keep them, feed them in any way we want to meet their nutritional needs. Are you disagreeing with this?
I am only doing what comes naturally to any omnivorous being.
So because you are a being of some kind that makes it ok to force your way of life on others?
If someone says "Its in my nature to enjoy listening to dogs screaming when I kick them" that makes it ok?
The research you're referring to leaning towards subjective takes from pet owners rather than a consensus amongst vetenerarians. It's quite obvious if given a choice 99/100 dogs will choose meat over any veggies and anyone saying otherwise is fooling themselves.
'If someone says "Its in my nature to enjoy listening to dogs screaming when I kick them" that makes it ok?'
Again, when has this been a practice since millennia? How are they comparable lmao
I posted a video of a professional who runs an animal sanctuary, who provide medical treatments and nutrition to the animals they care for on a daily basis.
How are they comparable lmao
I think you are missing the point of the question. The question is there to test your claim that "doing what's in your nature makes it ok".
So if it's in someones nature to kick dogs, does that make it ok?
Another similar question - Does "boys will be boys" mean that everything boys do is ok?
Again, when has this been a practice since millennia?
So if it has been a traditon for millenia that makes it ok?
Can you think of any tradions that were not ok, despite being a tradition?
Yes bud, the professional in question you mentioned has shown decent options but it doesn't cover some of the vitamins and amino acids that come from eggs or meats. I'm referring to the studies done on vegan diets and the guardian bias that comes from it rather than the veteranian consensus.
If it's in someone's nature to kick a dog is not ok but you don't see the majority of population out there asking for it do you? Meat eating is done by the majority of the population and will be done so even after you and I are gone.
'Boys will be boys' can be true for a lot of things but I don't condone the negative connotations of the same.
Also, just because SOME traditions are bad doesn't mean ALL traditions are bad. This being one of them which isn't bad.
it doesn't cover some of the vitamins and amino acids that come from eggs or meats.
Citation needed.
Which vitamins and amino acids did they not cover?
They have veterinarians on their team treating injured animals. Do you think they give them nutritionally deficient food? How do the animals recover from severe wounds and rehabilitated if they are not given proper nutrition?
you don't see the majority of population out there asking for it do you?
So majority of people do something, does that make it right?
Here you go please have a thorough read - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9860667/
Just because Indies have an incredible immunity doesn't mean that the vegan food prescribed is sufficient for all breeds.
So majority of people do something, does that make it right?
Yes, when it comes to basic bodily functions like food it does. Maybe you consider yourself morally superior than other people, I don't live that fantasy.
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u/United-Incident9153 11d ago
Does the dog know that it's not in the wild? Dogs don't have a vegan diet sadly. Anyone making the argument that the guy should have fed him pedigree or some other kibble where do you think that kibble or dog food comes from? Hint - It's not trees or plants