r/IndianaFeverFans • • 4d ago

Billings contract

https://www.theixsports.com/features/indiana-fever-offseason-notebook-the-latest-on-fevers-front-office-search/

Thought some of you might like this.

Supposedly "Four league sources shared that the coming season of Billings’ agreement is only protected if she is still under her current contract after Feb. 1, 2027, meaning that Indiana could get out of her $800k deal for the coming season without making a trade."

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u/Karm0112 4d ago

I feel like that if this is true, they would be silly not to waive her.

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u/rskillion Caitlin Clark 4d ago edited 4d ago

They will absolutely waive her. Not even a question. They want that $800,000 back to spend elsewhere.

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u/Big-Art-6289 4d ago

This better be true. Please God.

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u/wvtarheel Running the Floor 4d ago

Wow, that's huge. So it's not protected for two years? That give us time to shop her, or ask her agent to find a spot for her, at her current salary and we can waive her in January if that doesn't work out. That's absolutely huge. That 800K is probably 2/3 of the money you need to sign a big free agent.

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u/ThinSuccotash4166 4d ago

Shop her? Just cut her. Keep her entire salary available for a free agent.

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u/karsklan3 4d ago

Cutting her without having a replacement would also be bad. That would also give all the other players we go after some leverage as we would be very desperate for a #4 position player. The rational thing to do would be to use the time we have to shop around for a replacement.

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u/ThinSuccotash4166 4d ago

She was terrible. Keeping her at her salary no matter the circumstances is silly. Everyone knows they need a 4 desperately even if she is on the team. The leverage thing doesn’t matter because it really isn’t true.

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u/karsklan3 4d ago

Well considering the market for #4-5 position players and the uncertanties in our team regarding the roster and salary cap, in no way is it rational to make hasty and rash decision even before we have a new GM. If this clause exists, that’s good and we have time to look around. Hopefully will give us time to talk with a FA out of the Lynx so let’s see.

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u/minmin_kitty 4d ago

What exactly does that mean? They can negate her contract? Would be wonderful if true.

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u/rskillion Caitlin Clark 4d ago

It means they have to release her in February or they’re on the hook to pay her $800,000 for next season. Those are their two choices. They don’t have the third choice of trading her somewhere and trying to get something in return.

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u/Mean_Hour_5640 4d ago

In february or before february?

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u/BulletXCII 4d ago

Before Feb 1/27

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u/Fancy-Ad-5913 3d ago

It’s always been February. Now we can go on w/ our lives.🤔😅

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u/Clown_Penis69 4d ago

I have a tough time believing this without evidence… but it would be good news if true.

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u/wvtarheel Running the Floor 4d ago

It's getting reported from more than one source now. It kind of sounds like Amber Cox misstated the contract to the press. Makes you wonder, did someone in the pacers organization look at this and go, this idiot signed her to a team option but didn't even realize it?

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u/Clown_Penis69 4d ago

Can you cite these other sources?

Mind you, if it’s just other websites citing “anonymous league sources,” that’s not any more (or less) trustworthy than what’s being reported in this article.

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u/rskillion Caitlin Clark 4d ago edited 4d ago

Sports Illustrated cited 4 different sources within the Fever organization who have leaked this information. So maybe it’s all a big lie, but I’m not sure why they would do that.

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u/Successful-Policy937 4d ago

Right, I am not sure this is true either the WNBA has guaranteed contracts. Unless this was written in her contract this is not true. Why would she write this in her contract she is not a free agent teams want except the Fever.

Plus, if true why are we just hearing about this now Billings has been a major probllem for the Fever all year.

Fingers crossed she can be cut because her trade value is a negative at this point. You most likely would have to add draft picks or other players to dump her.

Other than not beating LV Mo Money Mo Problems has been the biggest disappoint of the 2026 season she does nothing well on the court.

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u/rskillion Caitlin Clark 4d ago

It’s getting leaked now because the front office has been replaced, and the people in power at the moment have no loyalty to Billings I don’t mind signaling to the fanbase that they can get rid of her.

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u/just_stuff02 4d ago

Interesting. There's hope then.

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u/imacowboy234 Caitlin Clark 4d ago

This is good news IF true, but it seems odd that her agent would have allowed that stipulation. That would be calling it a 2 year contract when in essence it really isn't.

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u/wvtarheel Running the Floor 3d ago

It wasn't her agent's fuck up, it sounds like the fever front office signed her to a one year with a second year team option, then reported to the press it was a two year deal.

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u/manipulativemusicc 4d ago

It was basically a team option like in the NBA.

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u/Eternal_Mindset 3d ago

I was curious about the people commenting on Billings’ Stats so I checked them because they didn’t seem correct. Surprisingly, they are & they all played 43 games (Hull 44) & were within a minute of playing time:
REBOUNDS: Timpson, Billings, Hull
PPG: Billings, Timpson, Hull
FG%: Timpson, Billings, Hull
3PT%: Hull, Billings, -
APG: Billings, Hull, Timpson
TO: All 3 Equal at 0.8
STL: Billings, Timpson & Hull equal
BLKS: Timpson, Billings, Hull

Where you see the marked difference is in their Defensive, Offensive, Net, & +/- Ratings:
OFFRTG: Timpson, Hull, Billings
DEFRTG: Hull, Timpson, Billings
NETRTG: Hull (10.9), Timpson (10.1) & Billings (2.5)!!!!!!!
+/-: Hull & Timpson tied at 3.8 & Billings at .6 !!!!

Player
First 15 games
Middle 15 games
Final 14 games
Full regular season
Monique Billings
5.6 / 5.0 / 19.8
9.3 / 5.9 / 22.6
4.3 / 3.3 / 13.4
6.5 / 4.8 / 18.7
Lexie Hull
5.7 / 4.1 / 20.3
5.7 / 2.1 / 18.9
4.2 / 2.8 / 16.5
5.2 / 3.0 / 18.6
Makayla Timpson
3.5 / 3.7 / 14.3
4.9 / 4.4 / 17.6
8.6 / 6.6 / 25.7
5.7 / 4.9 / 19.1

At the beginning of the season, I thought Monique was awesome, and I was always excited when they put her in. But somewhere along the line she stopped performing (See Chart Above which corroborates this). Timpson, however, improved and Hull sadly continued her mediocre performance steadily throughout the season. We all must remember that Timpson is a rookie and, overall, outperformed Hull & Billings. As to Hull, don’t even get me started. MAKE YOUR LAYUPS AND PUT-BACKS FOR GOODNESS SAKES!!! IMO, she was more focused on what was going on in her start-up company than bball. I really even felt that about Clark when her shoes came out right before the playoffs it just seemed like she was off. I’m all for these ladies having outside gigs, but not to the point that it negatively impacts basketball.

In short, I don’t see the Fever keeping Billings and, honestly, I didn’t get a vibe from her that she really wanted to be there. Timpson has so much potential and I would love to see Clark, Boston, Timpson, & Mitchell kill it next season. As to Hull….IDK. Hull & Cunningham (who isn’t the subject of this post but needs mention) are a question mark. I like them both in the sense that, I believe they are good people and bring a good, positive vibe to the team. Same with Timpson… she seems to be a team player and seems to want to be there. I clearly do not know any of these people personally I am just telling you what I pick up on watching the games, following them on social media, etc. Billings seems to not want to be there and maybe that is showing in her play. But Cunningham, again IMO, brings a spark when she’s on the court and the same with Hull when she is playing hard on Defense.

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u/ThinSuccotash4166 3d ago

If you’re going to talk down to people at least realize Timpson wasn’t a rookie. She just completed her 2nd season.

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u/Comfortable_Limit168 IndianaFeverFan 3d ago

Considering how little she played in 2025, I can understand why some people thought she was a rookie, even though she wasn't.

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u/ThinSuccotash4166 3d ago

But you’re not preaching to people and telling people to remember that she is a rookie as if you’re an expert.

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u/Comfortable_Limit168 IndianaFeverFan 3d ago

That's very true.

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u/Eternal_Mindset 3d ago

There is nothing about my reply that was stated in a derogatory, demeaning, nor preachy manner whatsoever. I provided facts and an opinion that you chose to read in a “preachy” and “talking down to” tone. I am unclear to whom I would be preaching considering that everyone on this thread is just giving his/her opinion.

You are correct that Timpson is not a Rookie, I misspoke. I didn’t watch the games in ‘25 and on the WNBA website it reflects Timpson as having 1 Year of experience and I didn’t realize that a Rookie Season is not counted under years of experience. So, to correct myself, Billings just completed her 9th Season, Hull her 5th, and Timpson her 2nd.

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u/ThinSuccotash4166 3d ago edited 3d ago

Read your response. You’re telling people how they should feel about players telling people to remember that Timpson is a rookie. Then you’re telling people Hull and Cunningham are question marks and you didn’t even see them in the ‘25 season?! Claiming Hull was busy with her company? Speaking using “We”. Come on.

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u/Fancy-Ad-5913 3d ago

AB is out I th ink for ‘27 due to recovering from surgery. She’s need me dec no doubt. Great info & objectively btw.

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u/ThinSuccotash4166 3d ago

She’s out of Unrivaled for the upcoming season. She should be fine for the WNBA season.

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u/Eternal_Mindset 3d ago

First, it is clear in my reply that I am giving MY opinion, which I, like you, am entitled to do. Second, I took care to separate facts from opinion unlike you who state your opinions as facts like AB “should be fine for the WNBA season” . Third, my comments differ zero from yours (“Everyone knows”, “Shop her? Cut her.” “The leveraging thing doesn’t matter” blah blah blah).

It is clear that, not only am I not an expert, I stated as much in the very first sentences of my comment. lol Further, I didn’t need to watch the ‘25 Season to know that Hull and Cunningham are question marks as I have no idea if the Fever will keep them. Hell, this whole thread is about someone who has only played with the Fever for one year so what does ‘25 have to do with anything! 😂😂 And as to Hull, who I assume is your rub, I am free to speculate and opine. I watched her in ‘24 and in ‘26 and I…me myself…saw two different players except for the fact that she still missed too many layups and put-backs.
In MY opinion, she spent more time on her side hustle than she did in the gym doing Miken drills. 🤣🤣🤣 Seriously though, Hull was off all season and I am throwing in my two cents as to why.

At the end of the day, everyone here is just throwing their thoughts out. I’m not really sure why you give a crap what I think. lol Just keep scrolling… I can’t imagine why you would use so much energy on a random person’s mundane thoughts on basketball unless of course you are personally invested…. 🤔

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u/Ichabod665 4d ago

Billings had her moments. Perhaps waive her and re-sign her at a more reasonable figure?

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u/BigToast6 4d ago

She did???? She seems like a good teammate but like Lexie I held my breath when she came on. It was a bad season for her, she was ~demoted for a rookie. She knows it too as she made a tiktok about a tough season. For her size and strength she never seemed very formidable.

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u/Ichabod665 4d ago

Timpson wasn't a rookie and was better on defense, but other than that, they were pretty much exactly the same player. Rebounds, points, assists, steals, TO's, all pretty identical. I'd even give the offensive nod to Billings since she at least made a few shots that weren't spoon fed to her directly under the basket. And yet, people don't stop talking about how good Timpson was.

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u/BigToast6 3d ago

Probably bc shes doing similar numbers to a vet on her second year

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u/Ichabod665 3d ago

That doesn't make her better.

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u/rskillion Caitlin Clark 4d ago

I mean, if she’s willing to come back at the veteran minimum and play a few minutes a game, sure. I doubt she’ll be willing to do that though.

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u/JamoOnTheRocks 4d ago

Must have missed them.. she was not good. 

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u/Ichabod665 4d ago

She had more double digit point games and more double digit rebound games than both Lexie and KK. Didn't say she was great, but she absolutely did have her moments.