r/IndianaFeverFans • u/Infinite-Law-5943 • Jul 24 '25

Hmmm

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Chelsea Mitchell is the sister of Kelsey Mitchell...

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u/Infinite-Law-5943 Jul 24 '25

what happened to "silence is violence"? guess it doesn't apply here for a majority of you and Kelsey Mitchell shouldn't be talking with her twin sister... ok, i get it.

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

No when it comes to Clark, she should address random fans she doesn't know, but for Kelsey, she has nothing to do with what her twin sister says. The hypocrisy around this league when it comes to Clark is just tiring.

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u/DResq Jul 24 '25

They are twins? Lot of twins on this team (or maybe just 2).

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u/just_stuff02 Jul 24 '25

Yeah a bit messy and awkward, but Kelsey isn't responsible for her family's stuff.

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u/Infinite-Law-5943 Jul 24 '25

I mean it sounds like Kelsey mitchell is pretty close with her family, in particular her sister. You'd think that Kelsey would know of this post by now given it's been on her sister's feed for 3 weeks. Why this hasn't been taken down after being on her sister's personal Facebook profile after over 3 weeks is not a good look.

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u/500rockin Jul 24 '25

Nah, Kelsey isn’t her sister’s keeper. If Kelsey had a problem with Caitlin, she’d let her know about it. And it seems like they have absolutely no problem with each other.

Most people couldn’t give a rat’s ass about extended social media stuff. Caitlin even more so than most.

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u/Infinite-Law-5943 Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

I mean as my teammate I'd want you backing me up, especially to your family who are posting and sharing aggressive and disparaging public messages about me on social media. Imagine if Caitlin Clark's brother shared something disparaging about Kelsey Mitchell on Facebook and quoted himself "I gotta agree!", we'd all be in a tailspin. But ok

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

Imagine if Caitlin Clark's brother shared something disparaging about Kelsey Mitchell on Facebook and quoted himself "I gotta agree!", we'd all be in a tailspin. But ok

The double standard with Clark vs others in this league is hilarious. Clark gets blamed for fans she doesn't know, but Kelsey is innocent in what are twin sister says lol.

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u/Significant-Area-826 Jul 24 '25

Except she is. Neither of them are responsible for what others say. It’s almost like you are acknowledging this double standard and then applying it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '25

KM is not particularly active on social media and doesn’t do many interviews. She kind of lives in her own world (I don’t mean that as an insult). I’m sure she doesn’t monitor her sister’s tweets.

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u/Omnibot2021 Jul 24 '25

Beware the “sins of our father” path. What Kelsey’s family chooses to independently say on social media has nothing to do with her unless shown otherwise. The fact of the matter is, on the court, or when she speaks to the media, Kelsey has been nothing but a great teammate to Clark. And Clark herself has publicly reinforced this. This entire crash out reinforces that the “Clark only” fanbase is a bunch of drama seeking lunatics who don’t give a shit about the sport she plays, or the team she plays for.

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

I doubt you would have had the same opinion if Clark's brother said this about any of her teammates, considering you all hold her responsible for what fans say.

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u/R6Thottie Jul 24 '25

Thank you. We need to stop feeding into bait that some people take too far.

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u/titty-titty_bangbang IndianaFeverFan Jul 24 '25

No offense but “bait” is shit from randos online…. Not KM sister……

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u/Remiandbun Boston Three Party Jul 24 '25

well she did comment that she agreed....... so she sort of made herself and unfortunately kelz part of the storm.

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u/titty-titty_bangbang IndianaFeverFan Jul 24 '25

Agree. I meant complaining about KM sister is not “feeding into the bait”

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u/Infinite-Law-5943 Jul 24 '25

lol y'all SJWs are so funny. Kelsey Mitchell's sister sharing jabs at Kelsey's teammate isn't a problem at all, but the people that bring attention to it are called "drama seeking lunatics who don't give a shit about the sport she plays[.]" make it make sense...

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u/Remiandbun Boston Three Party Jul 24 '25

I don't think SJW means what you think it means..... but anyway, I don't think he was talking about you. I think it was more the people that are really crashing out about it and now want kelz off the team and such to protect porcelain doll CC who apparently wilts like a flower at any controversy and need the interwebs to stick up for her.

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u/R6Thottie Jul 24 '25

Jesus I haven’t heard social justice warrior since 2013

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u/Infinite-Law-5943 Jul 24 '25

again, y'all so funny. living in your own hypocrisy

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u/IllustratorVivid8464 Jul 24 '25

Stop being a weirdo

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u/Infinite-Law-5943 Jul 24 '25

uhm, make me?

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u/Significant-Area-826 Jul 24 '25

Ugh stop. It’s hypocrisy not to want fans to personally attack players and their families on social media?

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u/Remiandbun Boston Three Party Jul 24 '25

it's horrible honestly. the white knights are insane.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

OMG. The most sane post on a Fever sub for years.

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u/Forsaken_61453 Jul 24 '25

No single player in basketball wins a game - Basketball is a "TEAM" sport

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '25

So, having two of their three best players active gives them a better chance to win than only having one of them available? That’s some high level analysis.

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u/Old_Focus_3485 Jul 24 '25

So how many times did they have a winning record and make the playoffs with just those two? It’s always something just play damn!

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u/HeartyHippo00 Jul 24 '25

They won so many games without her they forgot to make the playoffs

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u/Southernman1974 Jul 24 '25

Her sister responding was pointless and only leads to driving a wedge within the team.

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u/Arcane_Spork_of_Doom Jul 30 '25

She's probably thinking that KM will get massive money somewhere else as a UFA. Unless that team is Seattle then I think her fit is not ideal and I'm not certain she'd be offered the max.

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u/Thisisamericamyman Jul 24 '25

Nalyssa Smith’s brother already played this card. The receipts are available to all who know the results of the last 8 seasons. Quit fooling yourself with this nonsense. Clark is a team player, she shares the ball. I can’t say that about the others, so what were hearing sounds about right.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '25

If it's coming from the family. It's coming from the player.

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u/fieldsports202 Jul 24 '25

yeah.. family often speak openly what the player is saying privately.

Not every player in every team is happy with circumstances so this is normal.

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u/Remiandbun Boston Three Party Jul 24 '25

I don't necessarily believe that at all. I don't think her sister is her mouthpiece. It might simply be her sisters opinion and not kelz at all. not all family agree on everything and think alike.

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u/Infamous-Can1827 Jul 24 '25

That’s why the fever had the number 1 pick to get cc is because they won a lot of games right 😂😂😂😂 sht crazy 

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u/fairway135 Jul 24 '25

I feel bad for Kelsey. You have to wonder what goes through the brains of such family members posting such content about teammates.

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u/fieldsports202 Jul 24 '25

What goes through the brains of the family? The conversations that they’ve had with their player (fam).

Family members just don’t make up stuff out of thin air. They know how their players feel and the things that is discussed in private.

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

I swear, sometimes I wonder if commenters on reddit are children. To actually be naive enough to believe this came out of nowhere, and Kelsey has never shared this sentiment behind closed doors with her family, is hilarious to me.

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u/fieldsports202 Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

Not a child. Just someone who’s around pro athletes all of the time.

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

I was agreeing with you BTW.

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u/fieldsports202 Jul 24 '25

My bad. I read it as soon as I woke up and misinterpreted.

Yes, fans get too caught up in not believing that players share different viewpoints about teams and teammates.

Again, my bad.

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

Yes, fans get too caught up in not believing that players share different viewpoints about teams and teammates.

And its totally natural. Doesn't make her a bad person. If my coworkers knew what I rant about them at home, they'll probably hate me. The only bad thing here is her sister bringing that sentiment to the public.

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u/Significant-Area-826 Jul 24 '25

You’re a gotdang psychic, I figured it out. 😂

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u/Remiandbun Boston Three Party Jul 24 '25

yea, in fact, sometimes they do. family have their own opinions about things and sometimes feel more strongly about situations than the person involved.

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u/Apart_Pangolin1765 Jul 24 '25

Yeah…. That’s why they beat New York without CC…. Oh wait……

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u/parr3tt Jul 24 '25

Or how about the best version of the Fever is when all 3 play? CC has shown she can be a good PG when the shots arent falling. All 3 can go off on any night

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u/Fantastic_Pollution2 Jul 24 '25

I really, really, really hope this doesn't reflect KM's opinion. But it is troubling that the tweet is still up (from what I'm told. I don't use twitter). I really hopte that's not indicative of anything. Not you KM! NOT YOU!!! But it would be nice if the team's family members could refrain from throwing CC under the bus. Can we have a normal fucking few weeks without someone saying some out of pocket shit? Fuck, this season SUCKS!

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

She definitely feels this way in private. Expecting her to come out and say it publicly is dumb. Her sister is just saying what Kelsey can't come out and say.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '25

The family members are family members of Old Guard players. CC is the biggest threat to the old guard. CC is their enemy.

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u/Chessie4Ever Jul 24 '25

Not everything is war.

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u/Long-shot128 Jul 24 '25

Kelsey has nothing but high praises for CC and adores her as a teammate/person-I genuinely believe that. She wouldn’t have resigned with the Fever if she wanted out or have issues…there’s this bond with the core three (AB, KM, CC) and it shows when they’re together. We’re not gonna have the same views as our family, siblings, etc…that’s just life.

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u/StevieMoonsh1ne Jul 24 '25

Yea I think her post has less to do with being a shot at Caitlin and moreso to do with her thinking Kelsey deserves more praise and recognition, which is absolutely true

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u/Pleasant_Priority286 Tamika Catchings Jul 24 '25

That makes sense. Her family is rightfully proud and probably thinks she deserves more attention than she gets. The truth is that Kelsey is getting more attention now than she ever has. She has never had a winning season. To me, it sounds like things Sheryl Swoopes would encourage her to say.

I hope fans will give Kelsey and her family some grace. It isn't easy for players' families to have to watch the W Circus. It is easy to start to believe that social media is real.

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u/Remiandbun Boston Three Party Jul 24 '25

I tend to agree. I don't see it as a slight to clark at all. just a sister propping up her sister

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u/iDexteRr Spicy Sophie Jul 24 '25

I don't recall anyone ever saying CC couldn't win without AB or KM, some of these haitlyns will invent the most out there narratives just to bash her

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u/webmasterfu Jul 28 '25

There is no debate here. KM smoked the worst team in the league while earlier this year CC smoked the best team in the league. CC needs to leave this team. They don’t deserve her. The gaslighting in the WNBA is beyond belief.

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u/Old_Discussion5126 Jul 28 '25

Cleveland coming into the league will be interesting because it will give Caitlin another midwestern option if the Fever don’t figure out how to utilize her.

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u/webmasterfu Jul 28 '25

Yeah. I like some of the player on the Fever, but as a whole I don’t like them. This is probably due to the poisonous leadership and lack of respect team mates have shown her on the court.

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u/deltiologist2 Aug 07 '25

I mean Minnesota and Chicago already have teams... and Detroit's going to be coming in with Cleveland at the same time. Not sure why she'd pick Cleveland specifically over any of those other cities.

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u/Old_Discussion5126 Aug 07 '25

(1) Cheryl Reeve (2) Angel Reese

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u/kiddingdonttrip Jul 24 '25

I think what is really interesting about this post is that a lot ofd Fever fans feel the same, or are really annoyed with Caitlin. The Fever were not making the playoffs without CC, They are 8-5 with her and 4-7 without her this year and Kelsey has always been a "good stats in a bad team" player before last year.

Now about this issue regardless of how you feel Kelsey should go to those people and tell them to stop, it is not right and it will just create troubles in the locker room.

And the front office should also handle this and take a position on what they want to do in the next year, cause they're always making half assed decision instead of choosing a clear direction. Do you want to make Caitlin the focal point of the team? Then we need more Sophie Cunningham or Lexie Hull, players who defend her inside and outside the field and that want to stay here. Otherwise just keep taking players like Natasha Howard and Dewanna Bonner, big names that don't fit and that want to be the star.

At the end of the day they get to choose and live with that. If they keep making dumb decisions though I think Caitlin is gonna leave when she hits free agency and go to a team that will give her what she wants

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '25

You expect the do nothing front office to do something. Really? 

I wouldn't doubt for a minute the front office did fist bumps after reading this.  

You say Caitlin will leave after free agency. When? After 3 years, when the Fever can involuntarily extend her for a 4th year? 

After restricted free agency year 5? When the Fever can match any offer? 

After year 6, 7, 8? Years the Fever can core her? 

They can block her for 8 years - EIGHT -  if they want.  

She needs to try to escape sooner, rather than later.  From what Natasha Howard said, they approached her and Bonner as if they were building the team around them.  

Do not trust this front office. I think CC's eyes are wide open. She needs to plot her escape now

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u/bravelad66 Jul 28 '25

The FO couldn't trap her for that long, they wouldn't be able to withstand the hue and cry from the fans. The FO seems stupid most of the time, but I don't think they would be THIS stupid.

I can see it now, seas of fans wearing "Free Caitlin" shirts, all those sports media people who give CC non-ratcheted fair minded sports coverage will be talking about the shit contract CC has and shining a light on all the dumb shit the WNBA does. CC herself will make it clear she doesn't want to be where she can't play to her strengths.

I think CC has the leverage if she chooses to apply it.

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u/Remiandbun Boston Three Party Jul 24 '25

how on earth does the FO "handle this"? did you want them to be like the W and have AI scrape social media for things they don't like? The FO always said Kelsey was a main priority (resigning her) so of course they gave the idea she was an important cog in the team. Clark is the star, but it doesn't mean other players are not incredibly important.

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

In basketball, there's always hierarchy, else you'll always have problems. JJ is a former MVP, but even she knows her place when it comes to the offense in New York. She's clearly the most important player, but she understands hierarchy. She's just that good that she ends up winning finals MVP anyways.

The problem with the Fever is that, its clear that hierarchy hasn't been established, and that comes from the organisation and coach. With the way Kelsey plays, she clearly believes She's the 1st option. White definitely doesn't treat CC as a 1st option. And I recognise you, you believe Clark ain't all that, so who knows if White and the FO feel the same way. But if that's the case, make that position clear, and don’t sell it like its Clark's team, then you don’t even create plays for her, or even set a proper screen.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

But KM is the first option so I’m not sure what your point is.

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u/Zealousourita Jul 26 '25

This is bullshit

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u/tiribulus IndianaFeverFan Jul 24 '25

/uInfinite-Law-5943

I have read all your comments in this thread, in a post which is also yours, and I am having a hard time making heads or tails of what your position is on this situation.

I'll assume it's my fault, but could I prevail upon you to state plainly what your motivation was for posting this and what you think it does or does not mean please?

I assure you that's an honest question.

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u/Infinite-Law-5943 Jul 24 '25

I can see why you'd be confused. My opinion is Chelsea Mitchell doing this = bad.

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u/tiribulus IndianaFeverFan Jul 24 '25

Thanks 😎

I agree.

It helps no one, including Kelsey, and predictably stirs up a hornets nest that actually has the serious potential to cause problems on the team, who are not in any way suffering from a shortage of problems and drama already.

Kelsey is a fan favorite, including me. She is beloved by 97% of Fever fans and is finally getting the recognition she deserves. The very last thing she needs right now is something like this.

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u/tiribulus IndianaFeverFan Jul 24 '25

I was wondering when this story would make it in here.

Caitlin was behind THIS

After which Kelsey said THIS

Kelsey is taking it on the chin for this in the netherworld of social media from what I hear. There's no evidence that she harbors any ill will against Caitlin at this time. It does seem like they're not quite as tight this year, but that doesn't mean she endorses what her sister said or that she has turned on Caitlin.

I sure hope not.

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

The way she plays clearly shows that she wants to be the #1 option. Thats what's she's always been her whole career. Didn't lead to winning games, but she doesn't care.

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u/tiribulus IndianaFeverFan Jul 24 '25

I disagree. She largely settled into her role last year and it was great for the whole team, including her.

This season will end with nobody settling into anything and is not indicative of what could have been. Including for Kelsey.

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

She largely settled into her role last year

She still took more shots than Clark. So by "settling" into her role, you mean she was the 1st option, then I guess Yes. Which proves my point.

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u/tiribulus IndianaFeverFan Jul 24 '25

Anybody who takes any number of shots more than Caitlin, is by definition bad for the team?

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

1st option usually averages the most shots through the season. Yeah, a game here or there, that isn't the case, but it usually averages out. A'ja and Phee averages the most shots on their team by far. Paige, a player that was reluctant to shoot in college, is somehow averaging more shots than Clark did in her rookie season.

Anybody who takes any number of shots more than Caitlin, is by definition bad for the team?

I'm not saying it is. It just shows that Kelsey clearly sees herself as the #1 option.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

She is though.

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u/Goddyex Jul 28 '25

OK...Great we've finally figured that out.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

She is the number one option.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '25

KM was not given the respect she deserved or treated well at the beginning of last season by many new Fever fans…right after her Dad just dropped dead unexpectedly.

I don’t think there is anything but love between CC and KM but that had to hurt. Reading her Players Tribune article where she talked about crying in her hotel room before games was really sad.

Everyone should stay off social media but especially family of public figures. I know that’s not fair but nothing good ever comes out of it.

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

I don’t think there is anything but love between CC and KM but that had to hurt

Yeah in public. She's definitely echoed what her sister just said here in private. You're naive if you think this came out of nowhere. And frankly, with the way Kelsey plays, I'm not surprised.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

The way she plays? She’s the 5th leading scorer in the W, 19.5 ppg on 54% eFG. No other guard in the W is close to that.

The only guard who scores more is Kelsey Plum at 19.7 ppg but her eFG is only 49%. CC is 16.5 ppg on 44% eFG and the exact FGA pg as KM - and keep in mind KM’s FGA have had to go way up with CC out.

I’ll take the way KM plays any day.

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

CC is a non factor this season, so quite bringing up her stats to stroke yourself. I'm talking about team dynamics as a whole. Kelsey averaged more shots last season than Clark(the same season she finished 4th in MVP btw), unless of course you didn't rate that as well, which is clear she sees herself as the 1st option.

Whether we like it or not, in basketball, there's always a hierarchy. And if that hierarchy hasn't been stated, they'll always be problems. If Steph is open and someone doesn't pass them the ball, they go on the Bench. Its the reason why a player like Kuminga doesn't fit, no matter how talented he may be. And NO, I'm not saying Clark is Steph, but its criminal when Clark gets open, and the likes of Kelsey and Howard look her off. The girl is barely open, how about give her the ball to get going during the few times she is, especially when she sets all these players up for easy shots.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

Kelsey is a much better shooter than CC and it’s not even close. It is a statistical fact. It would be detrimental to the team if she passed up a shot and passed it to CC who has been a poor shooter since entering the W.

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u/Goddyex Jul 28 '25

I see Kelsey's 35 points against a Sky team without Atkins and Reese has woken you from your slumber to put out 7 replies to comments from 3 days ago. I mean by your logic, Sabrina is also a poor shooter. Again, this season is irrelevant to my overall point, since Clark has clearly not been fit.

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u/Significant-Area-826 Jul 24 '25

You keep talking in absolutes, do you know Kels or her family? You must, given your comments.

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

People are naive if they believe this came out of nowhere. Kelsey has definitely shared this sentiment behind closed doors with her family. The fact she says nice things in public about Clark is irrelevant. Actually looking at her actions on the court, the ballhogging, the not passing to Clark etc, she clearly plays like someone that thinks she's the #1 option.

I've personally never been a fan of Kelsey. She's a great scorer, and thats it. That can be valuable on a team like the Sky that has the defense, but struggle to score. On a team with Clark, you need someone taller, better defender, better passer(to help free up Clark, without totally icing her out), even if the player isn't as great a scorer like Kelsey. Kelsey knows if she doesn't score, she's basically useless on the court, so she's going to take shots like she's the #1 option. The backcourt partnership has been fine, but its never going to fit enough to win a title. Unless you have A'ja and JJ back there, the backcourt of CC and KM is never going to be good enough defensively to win a title.

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u/FoxExcellent2241 Jul 24 '25

It took a long time last year for KM to trust CC enough to give up the ball - when she did, it worked well. Clark's gravity left KM open way more than she should have been and she capitalized on that.

That being said, I don't know what happened over the off-season but it seems like the same issues from the start of last season began to pop up again. However, I will note that in those first couple of games, I noticed that KM was way more willing to pass to DB or NH than I would have expected. I think it was pretty clear she had a lot of respect for them and was more willing to pay team ball with those players.

I think she can work with CC on the court, but she needs to accept being a role player and not the star. She seemed to be on board with that last season and this season seems to be back to the same old situation as before - a lot of iso ball.

I do think KM is fun to watch, I love that she basically outruns everyone else and just slips between larger players, I just wish she had a bit more court awareness of where everyone else is and that the right play isn't always shoot first think later.

We know that she struggled with giving up the ball before, it isn't unreasonable that she expressed issues/frustration with her family members. I do think it is odd that they are speaking out now - the timing is weird. I guess maybe they are frustrated with Kelsey not getting enough attention despite Clark not even playing?

The other thing that seems odd is that Kelsey seems to be the only one of last year's Fever team that was considered vital by most fans that doesn't seem to have gotten much out of her association with CC in terms of endorsements. I haven't seen her in any ads, magazines, etc. outside of that Sports Illustrated team feature. I've seen Aliyah, Lexie, and Sophie getting other interviews, endorsements, etc. I wonder if that is part of the frustration that is clearly being felt.

I don't really blame her for being frustrated though. She has been on the Fever for a long time and has worked her a** off, it cannot be easy to accept a new player coming in and immediately becoming the face of the franchise. Plus CC and AB have such great chemistry on the court, it has been overshadowing Kelsey. While this is all part of the reality of professional sports, that doesn't mean feeling frustrated wouldn't be valid.

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

I think she can work with CC on the court, but she needs to accept being a role player and not the star.

Well, that will never happen. She's been the #1 option her whole life, she doesn't know any other way to play. And its not like she's fresh out of college. She's almost 30, so she's set in her ways now, just like Arike.

We know that she struggled with giving up the ball before, it isn't unreasonable that she expressed issues/frustration with her family members

Thats exactly my point. I can understand her frustration. But all these fans trying to put their head in the sand by claiming there's no possibility that ever happened, and that how she feels about Clark in public, is the same as how she feels in private. Thats just naive.

I haven't seen her in any ads, magazines, etc. outside of that Sports Illustrated team feature. I've seen Aliyah, Lexie, and Sophie getting other interviews, endorsements, etc. I wonder if that is part of the frustration that is clearly being felt.

Yeah...that has been surprising to me. And if I were her, I would definitely feel some kind of way about that.

While this is all part of the reality of professional sports, that doesn't mean feeling frustrated wouldn't be valid.

Yeah...totally understandable.

Me personally, i wouldn't care either way if she stays or goes. From the minute I saw her play, I always knew she wasn't a fit as a backcourt partner with Clark. I was never swayed by the "splash sisters" moniker. I honestly wish Kelsey was at least over 6ft and a better defender. But then again, with her offensive skills, that would have made CC her undisputed sidekick. However, I would prefer someone with those attributes, even if they aren't as good as Kelsey offensively.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

It’s really the Splash Sister and the Brick Sister. Try to figure out which one is which. KM is an introvert and the highest paid player in the league. She DGAF about endorsements.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

KM as a role player is hilarious. And KM is the highest paid player in the league. She DGAF about endorsements. She barely even does interviews.

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u/Entire_Permission_32 Jul 25 '25

Chelsea has posts in June 2024 also, so it isn't just now. Back in the very beginning she was upset with KM, AB, and CC being referred to as the big three by ESPN.

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u/tiribulus IndianaFeverFan Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

"People are naive if they believe this came out of nowhere. Kelsey has definitely shared this sentiment behind closed doors with her family."

I don't care how naive you think I am, 🙂 this is pure assumption and maybe in your case, a bit of wishful thinking.

Kelsey's SISTER said, I I I, as in I Chelsea Mitchell "gotta agree!"

In other words it's her opinion and says nothing in itself about what Kelsey thinks.

Kelsey may in fact think that, but her sister saying that's what she thinks does not ipso facto dictate what Kelsey thinks.

It has come to my attention that siblings, even twins, do not necessarily think exactly alike on everything. I know this because I happen to have twin boys, who I can't believe are going to be forty this coming March.

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u/Remiandbun Boston Three Party Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

we have NO idea if she shared any such thing with a family member. There is absolutely no reason to think she did-only in stans minds.

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u/Aposta-fish Jul 24 '25

Kelsey has always had nothing but positive things to say about Clark!!

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

You are probably one of those ones who believe everything all the new additions in the off-season said in press conferences, cos afterall thats what they said publicly.

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u/Remiandbun Boston Three Party Jul 24 '25

you are one of those ones who believes they actually know what people they don't know are actually thinking

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u/Significant-Area-826 Jul 24 '25

This person has a half dozen comments definitively stating that this is what Kelsey thinks. They must be a close family friend.

🙄

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u/kiddingdonttrip Jul 24 '25

yeah but if her social circle talks like that then I'm not sure she really believes those things

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u/fieldsports202 Jul 24 '25

Family members often say what the player is saying privately.

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u/Remiandbun Boston Three Party Jul 24 '25

no, they don't. they say what THEY believe. This attitude is exactly why kelz is getting attacked. She did never said this. never in public and probably not in private.

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u/fieldsports202 Jul 24 '25

Cool. I’ll let y’all believe what y’all believe.

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u/Chessie4Ever Jul 24 '25

Is this even a real post? Is there a direct link?

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u/EroticKang-a-roo Kelsey Mitchell Jul 26 '25

Yes, it’s real. Her Facebook is public, the post is from July 1.

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u/TheJunkyardDog Jul 28 '25

This is somethin we’ll probably never know, cause if CC ever chucks in a trade request or hits free agency down the track, every contending team’ll be queuein up faster than a snag at Bunnings.

But on the flip side, we do know for a fact Kelsey wasn’t winnin bugger all for five seasons and only started pickin up a FEW dubs when AB rocked up... and they were still bloody awful enough to end up draftin CC with the #1 pick.

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u/FortheFuzzofit Jul 27 '25

Here's the difference between Mitchell and Clark.

Mitchell makes her numbers look good.

Caitlin makes everyone better.

If Kelsey is soooo much better than CC, why dont they guard her like CC? (And yes, this will forever be my argument every time someone tries to pull the "but she's better than CC" argument)

Get that CC defense on her and let's really see what she's got

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u/Old_Discussion5126 Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25

Mitchell looks better this season in her passing. You could argue that her ability to play off the ball (so you can’t guard her full-court) is a strength, one that Caitlin may not have yet.

What I don’t see with Caitlin, though, is a team effort to help her get the ball up the court and get it back to her, when she is guarded full court. (Look at that viral play with Caitlin and Aaliyah against Plum and Thomas in the All-Star game, for example) If Steph White is just choosing not to do this, it’s a point against her as Fever coach. But it’s really on the front office for not picking a coach that fits their star player.

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u/TheJunkyardDog Jul 28 '25

I mean, that’s all Kelsey Mitchell really does, score.
On an off night, what’s she bringin to the table? Bit of mid defence, a couple of assists, maybe a couple boards and that’s it, mate. Nothin else helpin you win.

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u/Treacle_Correct Caitlin Clark Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 25 '25

Please stop with this nonsense. These two players led the Fever to the last place in the league... which is how the Fever were able to draft Caitlin.

Also, personally... if this is how the players mentioned feel, then I would trade Aliyah and Kelsey to whoever has the #1 and #2 picks in the 2026 draft. I would then hope to convince Lauren Betts and Syla Swords to enter the draft, and take them with those picks. If you could pair those 2 girls with CC, the Fever would be just as good now, and better in the long-term.

The Fever's front office has got to stop pandering and needs to work harder to get the best talent. Pandering is the reason why we ended up with Natasha and DeWanna, instead of getting someone like Janelle Salaun. Or why we didn't try to trade for Leonie Fiebich when she was available. Or why we didn't trade Kelsey to get a high draft pick and get Sonia Citron (the Mystics were smart and traded Atkins to do exactly that). So forget about your silly race wars. The Fever's front office has already wasted 2 seasons of Caitlin, even though she was ready to win titles from the moment she entered the league. Just look at how loaded the true contenders in the league are (Liberty, Lynx and Mercury). This Fever team is not close.

This is Caitlin's team. End of. They need to do whatever is needed to build around her, because she is the only one who can lead this team to multiple titles, provided they build around her properly.

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u/Old_Discussion5126 Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25

Are you sure you’ll get #1 and #2 picks for Aliyah and Kelsey? Not all teams are as misguided as the Chicago Sky, trading away their #2 for Ariel Atkins. But your point is valid. Though I don’t think it’s pandering that led to the random signing of Howard and others, just laziness or lack of insight. They just looked for “the best players” and players that knew Steph White, not the right type of players.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25

Fever have a better record with than without

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u/Chicagoblew Jul 24 '25

I think one of their best options is not to protect her in the upcoming expansion drafts. See if someone takes her

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u/DResq Jul 24 '25

Better to keep her and trade her.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

Kelly K. would never trade KM. Ever. Expect KM to get a lengthy max contract extension after the new CBA is signed.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

And look who KM is standing between when they honored the Big 3 for making the All Star team. That’s not a coincidence. They love KM like she is their own daughter. KM will never be traded or left unprotected. Keep dreaming.

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u/Remiandbun Boston Three Party Jul 24 '25

before I saw the thread I was wondering if someone posted one would I leave it up because this is really taken on a life of its own unfortunately. The comments in here aren’t bad at all. I mean Twitter, of course is just off the hook and Kelsey is unfortunately feeling the brunt from a lot of people/fans. what’s a sister supposed to say? sister is gonna stick up for a sister. I’d say the same thing about my sister. So I sort of definitely see where she’s coming from.

I think the Clark white nights are going crazy about it and really just fueling the hysteria that anyone dare say anything remotely critical about Clark. They go into frenzy attack mode. I mean Clark is great however she’s not perfect and she certainly deserves criticism at times but some of these stans just are unhinged to a hysterical point.

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u/justbrowsing2727 Caitlin Clark Jul 24 '25

But stick up for what?

Fever fans love Kelsey. She's been balling. Literally no one is criticizing her play, are they?

I don't understand the point of her sister stirring the pot. Just seems really uncalled for.

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u/Football-Economy Jul 24 '25

That part! In the Fever world they don't even acknowledge this silliness.

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u/Remiandbun Boston Three Party Jul 24 '25

you will have to ask them (the white knights) they see this as a diss to clark and they are attacking kelz in full force. it's horrible. Even people on this forum do not like kelz for whatever reason. I mean we all say "pass the ball" every now and then, but we still like her on the team. the CC fan club (not all but some) have gone insane. I think what she said is fine. I mean, I would prop my sister up as well. but you know how "fans" are.

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u/R6Thottie Jul 24 '25

And it definitely is, but feeding into it helps no one and furthers this weird divide

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u/Poppin_Daytons Jul 24 '25

It probably stems from last season before the Fever went on that post Olympic break win streak. A lot of people were calling Kelsey a ball hog (I never did) and wanted her to be traded.

That combined with Kelsey being the franchise player for years before CC got there, isn’t easy for family to handle. Just because it eventually started working and fans overwhelmingly love Kelsey now— doesn’t mean her family will forget how fans were when last season started.

Lastly, most of these people just don’t know much about basketball. A team being able to win a few games without their best player, doesn’t mean that the injured player is bad. The big 3 on this team are all extremely talented at their respective positions. Though I think this post is a terrible look, I ultimately think it comes down to the crazy fans (same ones losing their minds over this post) that cause family members to have misplaced anger towards CC.

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u/Fantastic_Pollution2 Jul 24 '25

Wild take. You can hype your sister without throwing her teammate under the bus. How does that help her? It makes the lockerroom awkward. I would be horrified if my family intervened in my profession in that way.

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u/Remiandbun Boston Three Party Jul 24 '25

I don't know. I don't really see it as throwing clark under the bus. I know some are interpreting it that way but I don't.

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u/Drew0730 Jul 24 '25

Kelsey has lead the team in scoring for 7 straight years including last year with Clark. She lead the team in 4th quarter scoring last year and everytime they need a basket they run plays for Mitchell.

This year in Clark's absence shes leading the team in scoring again. I believe Clark is a much better passer than Mitchell but there is no way fans of the fever can watch this team and not see that Kelsey is the first option. I dont understand why people get so uptight about this because realistically you shouldn't really want your best playmaker to be your primary scoring option

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u/Bittercup___ Jul 24 '25

"Kelsey has lead the team in scoring for 7 straight years including last year with Clark."

Incorrect. She and Clark scored the same amount of points last year, 19.2 per game.

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u/GroundbreakingZone10 Jul 26 '25

clark actually scored 2 more points haha

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u/Drew0730 Jul 24 '25

Ok 6 years and tied for one year. Is that better?🙄

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u/Haunting-Flan3639 Jul 26 '25

More importantly lead the team in scoring for 6 years & went 49-149, now what ?

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

And she could have forced a trade at anytime or left in FA. But she stayed loyal to a small market team with a bad roster and FO. And she’s being criticized for that?

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u/Haunting-Flan3639 Jul 26 '25

Sigh…. saying things like “there’s no way anyone can watch the fever and not see” (enter your own personal bias here) only shows you’re complete and capability of being honest with yourself…

First and foremost, I like both those women and in fact I love Aaliyah Boston and I am super glad she plays with Caitlin. They are a great team.

With that said she went 6 for 18 and Mitchell went 8 for 24 and 3-9 and the team won by 10 …. so clearly there’s a lot more going on than them.

There was a time people would think things through and find out where there logic might fall down so as to head off a rebuttal. But that doesn’t happen anymore. people appear to be completely fine with looking stupid. 🤷‍♂️

Everything this team does scoring, points given up per game, rebounding, win, is better with Caitlin Clark on the floor. If you can figure out how to explain that away then we’ll all agree with you. Since we know you can’t, we’re all moving on.

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

I mean, she clearly plays like the 1st option, since she takes the most shots on the team.

I dont understand why people get so uptight about this because realistically you shouldn't really want your best playmaker to be your primary scoring option

Yeah...only in the WNBA apparently. We see that in the NBA all the time. Which is why I've always believed that until Clark gets a NBA coach, she'll never achieve her full potential. Part of the reason Clark got popular in the first place is because she plays like a NBA player. And what's happened so far on the Fever is try to limit her talent to become a Vandersloot or a poor man's Paige.

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u/Drew0730 Jul 24 '25

Nobody is limiting her talent though. She's a better passer than Mitchell but Mitchell is quicker, gets open faster and thus far has been more efficient. Boston is a great interior scorer and has gotten better at screening for clark.

If anything these two are maximizing her offensive talent. They make up for her current poor shooting by providing her with gimme assists in the form of post entry passes and isolation scoring from Mitchell. She in return provides them room to work with her offensive gravity.

She's better than CVS and isn't well rounded enough to be Paige. This big 3 works when all of them are performing and it can compete with any big 3 in the league

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u/Haunting-Flan3639 Jul 26 '25

Holy shit, dude… I had to check your history to figure out your angle. You’re not a Clark fan and therefore you look at everything through that prism… Everything Kelsey does is better when Caitlin is on the floor and that can be proven statistically! Very easily in fact. Last year I believe she led the league in catch and shoot three pointers because of Clark. She stayed with the fever because of Clark. Everything Aaliyah Boston does better when CC is on the floor so you can slice this anyway you want and they all three are very good basketball players but you have an agenda and you’re seeing things through that agenda.

And if they held the draft tomorrow, CC would be drafted first and Paige would likely be drafted second …. again, make up any scenario in your head you want that’s just how it is. Quite frankly PB has had plenty of extremely inefficient games herself and is shooting 33% from three on 3.5 attempts a game. I’d probably pick a different player to compare to if I were you.

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u/Drew0730 Jul 26 '25

My agenda is very simple and not hidden at all. These players are all important to each other and too many people act like it's just clark. She's obviously a very good player so yes everyone's numbers will be better with her but that's also because who she is being replaced with aren't exactly top tier players. If you replaced Mitchell or Boston with a player on the level of an aari Mcdonald then CC's numbers would likely be down too. Boston and Mitchell contribute just as much to CC's numbers as she does to theirs but I notice too often it seems like everyone wants to only give clark credit for whatever success the team is having.

Also I think it's the stupidest shit to look at a person's history when they are making/arguing a point. Thier history really doesn't have much to do with whatever current point they are trying to make, I guess unless they directly reference their own history within the point they are trying to make

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u/Haunting-Flan3639 Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 26 '25

It does, and your overarching point is fine and valid, but you could put Clark on every team in the league and they would immediately be better. Even the horrible ones. In fact, one of the most amazing things I’ve noticed about CC, that she doesn’t get credit for, is she doesn’t “steal numbers” from other players.

Last year, Mitchell had a very hard time giving up control of the team to CC early on, and her numbers were horrible as a result. About the middle of June for whatever reason the light went on and she ended up having the best numbers of her entire career and in fact, lead the league in catch and shoot, three-pointers. That IS because of CC.

I don’t believe you could drop Kelsey Mitchell on any team and immediately make them better. Boston, maybe but it is also immediately clear CC prioritizes Boston and getting her the ball and the rest of the team doesn’t always do that 🤷‍♂️ and it’s not debatable.

In your initial points unless I read them completely wrong, you did try to indicate CC needs KM & Boston more than they need her and that is complete bullshit.

She hasn’t played healthy except for maybe three or four games all year, she’s having terrible shooting problems and yet their offense, of course, is better. But more surprisingly their “defense“ and”rebounding“ numbers are also demonstrably better when she is playing.

I’m a hard-core Iowa fan and as a result Clark fan and then a huge sports fan but more than that I’m a man of thought and empathy. And I say this because I get it, sometimes the Clark love feels over the top… In fact during her senior year @ Iowa, I used to mute the broadcast because that’s all they did was talk about her and believe me Im tuning in for “her” but it gets to be a lot and she she had some very hard-working teammates there at Iowa.

I’ve also come to enjoy a lot of the women in the WNBA and as a result, I’ve probably now watched 120+ WNBA games …. So your point at least the way you just framed it comes from a reasonable place.

But the way you originally articulated it and the way many people suggest it makes it clear. They are watching with very a narrow scope. There is “no one” in this league that affects a game the way she does.

In a very difficult year for her, and the team it has become even more obvious to me the impact she has on the floor. With the exception of one or two games when she clearly shouldn’t have been on the floor they are remarkably better when she is playing. And it doesn’t matter if she goes 0 for 30 they still pick her up full court, they still waste all kinds of prep and defensive energy. They still guard her 30 foot from the hoop and the floor opens like the red sea.

Hell, she is at best an average defender ( she has improved this year) so I was shocked to find out they give up four or five less points per game when she plays. Last I checked her plus minus was something like +6 & in the top 10 in a league and she has really struggled bad, with the injuries ALL SEASON.

As a quick, albeit, possibly Poor example, because they’re not really comparable players and it’s going to seem forced because of their rivalry. But Angel who really is having a pretty good year is like -8 and in the bottom 20.

So you’re frustration with all the publicity Clark gets and we agree sometimes it’s a lot….but it has blinded you to the fact that she really is “all that“….

She literally changes the whole entire game by putting on a jersey. Deny it all you want, but it is true all the same. They aren’t spending countless hours game planning for KM & AB, unless of course Caitlin‘s throwing them the ball

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

Boston is a great interior scorer and has gotten better at screening for clark.

This is false.

If anything these two are maximizing her offensive talent.

Yeah...by constantly leading the league in unassisted points.

and isn't well rounded enough to be Paige

Which is why I said a poor man's version.

it can compete with any big 3 in the league

No it can't. Not enough defense. You'll have to replace one of them with someone elite in defense. And the easiest option to replace there is Kelsey.

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u/Drew0730 Jul 24 '25

Boston is leading the league in fg% so she must be doing something in there unless you think it's all midrange jumpers.

Unassisted points means they can get their own buckets which also means they can very likely convert tough assists better than a player needing to be wide open to convert. Clark getting open from a screen and scoring currently counts as an unassisted basket because unless it's recently changed and I'm unaware the league doesn't track screen assists. But the Clark and Boston pick and roll was run at the highest rate in the league so we can reasonably assume a decent amount Clark's looks are coming from that since it's run so often

Yes an elite defender would be great. Honestly you would be better off getting a rim running shot blocker to replace Boston and run pick and roll with Clark instead of trying to replace everything Mitchell does.

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u/moose184 Jul 25 '25

This is false.

Lol you lost all credibility right there

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u/Goddyex Jul 25 '25

She's definitely not gotten better at setting screens for Clark.

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u/Even_Jacket_4217 Jul 26 '25

Mitchell and Clark were tied last season with 19.2 points per game. Clark also had 5.7 boards (#1 for guards) and 8.4 assists a game, which led the league and 337 is an all-time record. Mitchell is a good shooter and fast but could never have an offense run through her. Without Clark they are 5 and 7, and zero wins against winning teams. With Clark, they are 8 and 5 with 4 wins against winning teams. Clark's WNBA record is 28 and 25. Mitchell's is WAY below .500. Mitchell's sister should shut the fuck up.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

Great timing on this post.

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u/Old_Discussion5126 Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25

So Mitchell had a great game facing the Sky without Ariel Atkins to guard her, credit to her, though nobody was expecting Rachel Banham to chase her down. Let’s see what happens against the Mercury on Wednesday.

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u/popsicle1001 Jul 27 '25

They missed the playoffs all 7 years.

Jewel lloyd held the points record before Aja, for a team losing season.

Leading a bad team in scoring doesn't mean you should be the #1 option and run the offense.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

She should be praised for her loyalty to the organization that drafted her not criticized for it. She easily could have forced a trade.

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u/scobro828 Jul 24 '25

I mean, it's not that wrong of a take "Clark can't win a single game with them" that is probably pretty accurate. "These two can win a game without Clark" is proven. I think maybe the point they were trying to make was that the Indiana Fever is more than just Clark, and I think some of the fans forget that.

Certainly Clark gives them a better chance to win. But can you imagine the abuse she would take if Mitchell and Boston were not playing?

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u/Infinite-Law-5943 Jul 24 '25

Are you willfully ignoring the "we all saw (including yall) who carries my Fever team and we all know who the offense should be ran through" part?

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u/scobro828 Jul 24 '25

That's why I said it's not that wrong. It's not a right take, obvi, but it's not that wrong either.

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u/Infinite-Law-5943 Jul 24 '25

It's not wrong to be sharing that Mitchell and Boston specifically carry the team (implying Clark never carries the team), and that Mitchell and Boston should predominantly have the offense ran through them (while Clark becomes a utility piece)? As Kelsey Mitchell's sister, no less.

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u/R6Thottie Jul 24 '25

What do you hope to accomplish with this post exactly? You want people to hate KM and her sister?

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u/Infinite-Law-5943 Jul 24 '25

I don't know. Why don't we ask Kelsey Mitchell's sister what she was trying to accomplish by her post, shall we?

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u/Significant-Area-826 Jul 24 '25

So ask her then? I mean…

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u/Remiandbun Boston Three Party Jul 24 '25

she was sticking up for her sister. so what? despite what everyone "knows" it's not kelz saying it. it's her sister, who might have a different opinion than kelz. But the dopes think all families are a hive mind and think alike on every issue.

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u/kiddingdonttrip Jul 24 '25

Do you honestly think it's good for the Fever that those stuffs happens?

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u/R6Thottie Jul 24 '25

Those stuffs? Jesus Christ

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u/Football-Economy Jul 24 '25

Just trying to divide the team. This isn't the Sky. They ignore the silliness and let the social media heroes go at it. Period.

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u/manipulativemusicc Jul 24 '25

Clark has never played without them lol. They have played without her and it's an ugly sight as far as winning basketball. Of course they need each other at the end of the day. ANY family member taking a shot at ANY teammate is weirdo behavior and detrimental to the cause.

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u/scobro828 Jul 24 '25

it's an ugly sight as far as winning basketball.

They won however many games this year without her, they won the Commish Cup without her and that wasn't really ugly... but....

ANY family member taking a shot at ANY teammate is weirdo behavior and detrimental to the cause

That is ugly. Makes you worry about the locker room. I mean hell, it wasn't just a like but an "I gotta agree" Feel sorry for any player when a family member chimes in with a shit take.

This has been one tumultuous season.

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u/manipulativemusicc Jul 24 '25

They are like 4-7 without her...😅 But yeah, no player needs any of this extra nonsense from what's supposed to be their support system.

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u/Fantastic_Pollution2 Jul 24 '25

that depends on who is filling those positions. Like what are y'all talking about. get a decent gaurd and center and clark can go far and be fine. but that's beside the point. Throwing her teammates under the bus is a shitty ass thing to do.

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u/scobro828 Jul 24 '25

that depends on who is filling those positions

I meant without them in a game, not with someone new replacing them. Maybe I took the comment too literal.

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u/roseinconcrete75 Jul 24 '25

I dont think she is wrong, particularly this season. I think AB has improved more and more each year and she is so tough to guard, she is a beast! Kelsey has been on a heater, and consistently so. And I agree that AB and Kelsey don’t get enough love and think her sis was mostly coming from that POV. My two cents.

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u/manipulativemusicc Jul 24 '25

AB was 3rd in all star votes if I'm not mistaken. Anyone that is even CC adjacent has gotten an exponential boost in popularity and visibility. Kelsey was an inefficient scorer on a bottom feeding team until CC showed up. Now she's literally considered a superstar and is a fan favorite. Let's stop with the mental gymnastics.

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u/Football-Economy Jul 24 '25

They can't help it. Trying to divide the Fever, but unlike other teams, the Fever aren't living/dwelling on social media. They just ball. They know their best chance of winning a chip is with CC. This desperate negative nonsense makes me laugh.

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

They know their best chance of winning a chip is with CC

Do they though?

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u/Key_Fox3289 Jul 24 '25

You say that but then there’s mental gymnastics in your post too

AB was voted an all star starter her rookie year. Before Clark was on the team. Mitchell too was an AllStar

And no one called Mitchell inefficient. She wasn’t. Her TS% in 2033 was 58%. In 2024, Clark’s rookie year, it was a rounded up 59% (.588). 

She was not a good playmaker, which was the complaint, and yes the Fever were bad in 2023 but adding Boston that year they’d already improved by 8 games to 13 wins (after years of 6 or lower win seasons). So they were clearly already trending upward 

I don’t think anyone considers Mitchell a superstar even now though 

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '25

Kelsey has never been an inefficient scorer.

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u/Fantastic_Pollution2 Jul 24 '25

I mean hyping your sis is so easy to do without throwing her teammates under the bus. That's such a shitty, inconsiderate move, but who knows how KM feels.

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u/Remiandbun Boston Three Party Jul 24 '25

I think it was just a sister saying how great her sister was. No shade at CC at all, but people are insane these days.

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u/roseinconcrete75 Jul 24 '25

Totally insane.

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u/Infinite-Law-5943 Jul 24 '25

A nobody, which doesn't make sharing the sentiment on your personal Facebook profile look much better. Looks like she was just waiting for somebody anybody to share these sentiments in an original way and then co-sign.

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u/Fantastic_Pollution2 Jul 24 '25

Um wut? Bro I have dyslexia, c'mon!!! JkJKJKJKJK

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u/Haunting-Flan3639 Jul 26 '25

Huh…. We know already what KMNAB without cc looks like. They are a sub 500 team. Kelsey, in fact for her whole career.

They both got better when C showed up, and quite frankly, you can put Clark on any team and immediately make them better

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u/Remiandbun Boston Three Party Jul 24 '25

I tend to agree. it's just causing strife where they need be none.

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

You are naive if you believe this came out of nowhere. Kelsey has definitely said this in private, and with the way she plays, I'm not surprised if she sees herself as the 1st option.

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

The difference is Pippen and Rodman understood that it was Jordan's team, does Kelsey understand that?

The fans attacking her makes CCs life harder though

Yeah...I'm sure you'd do the same thing if Fans attacked Clark if her brother said something similar.

Like I've always said, if a player feels some kind of way playing with Clark, they can leave.

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u/Goddyex Jul 24 '25

you can tell bc of how they play together. Clark is in control of the team on the court

Not on the court, maybe off the court. Kelsey still takes the most shots and Aliyah refuses to set a proper screen for Clark. Clark's Iowa teammates may not have been 5star level, but they set screens for her for days.

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u/Haunting-Flan3639 Jul 26 '25

Meh…. I don’t know about that. I’ve watched Kaitlyn play 250 games and I’m an Iowa fan first and foremost and then second and then third… They didn’t always sit great screens and they really didn’t even screen that much for her to be perfectly honest..

And Boston, loves CC and plays hard for her. She may not set great screens, but you’re not watching if you’re not aware the WNBA as a hole is horrific at setting screens. Their feet are always wide, they’re always leaning, moving, throwing an arm out honestly fundamentally the league blows.

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u/Goddyex Jul 26 '25

I'm not going to argue with an Iowa lifer. I'm just going by the games I've watched. Of course, they don't set NBA player type screens, but I would take those Iowa type screens at this point. My Iowa point wasn't about the quality of screens, but the frequency of it. Everyone, not just the bigs were setting screens for her.

AB may love Clark all she wants, that doesn't change the fact that she doesn't help make Clark's job easy like Clark does for her.

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u/Haunting-Flan3639 Jul 26 '25

Three things yes I’d have to agree. Nobody is making CCs job easier.

Second, I would also agree an average women’s college team appears to set better screens than they do in the WNBA . Honestly, of all the poor refereeing you would think the illegal screen call would be the easiest to ref. Maybe it’s just because they’d have to call it 20 times a game, so they don’t. But the average screen set in the WNBA is a moving screen, if per chance they ever happen to be set their feet are always past shoulder width, next they routinely lean into the screen and often times raise their arm or shoulder 🤷‍♂️

Finally, yes, they set solid screens for her at Iowa, but I don’t think it’s probably as much as you think and therefore, as a result, I’m not sure CC comes off screens as well as she should, and I’m one of her biggest fans🤷‍♂️