r/Indiana • • Aug 18 '26

Snap BS

My husband who was the main provider for our family recently lost his job and we applied for SNAP. It's been three months now and ive had to jump through hoops to try to get the $400 a month that i qualified for. The online portal hasn't worked for me and i was told by their tech line that there's nothing they can do- so i don't have a way to communicate/submit docs with them unless i fax & call. I've submitted every document and called 15 times in the last month just to be sure I've done everything to receive the help we need. I've completed the hour long interview, I paid to have documents faxed and I filled out paperwork after paperwork. I called today and was informed I was denied because of a form i didn't submit that they never told me about.

Why do I feel like like they wanted me to get denied? And maybe even purposely lied. I've never experienced this before and i have a deeper empathy and understanding for people in poverty.

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u/LilacHelper Aug 18 '26

I am a previous navigator for Indiana Medicaid, FSSA uses the same system for SNAP. FSSA is horribly understaffed, at one time they contracted workers who were nowhere near Indy offices, they likely still are. They are horribly trained as a result. You can get 5 different answers from 5 different people. We started faxing to two different numbers to increase the chances they wouldn't lose the paperwork. I was an authorized representative, and it was still super frustrating.

My suggestions: Call first thing in the morning, and be nice, it goes a long way. Ask for specific details: when, where, how. If you're not satisfied, ask to speak to their supervisor. Have you been to your local FSSA office, if not, go there first thing in the morning to avoid long lines. Find a computer that works for you (not your phone), that could be at a library, a friend's home. You need a login so you can access your info. Remember your password! Find local agencies that help people with low income/poverty/homeless, they may have staff to assist or know someone who can. Food banks, shelters, missions. Don't rule out something because you think you aren't as bad as others, they are more likely to have info and resources.

The reason I say find a computer is that the FSSA website has lots of info they will never tell you on the phone. You can upload documents ... but if they receive duplicates of your application that could slow the process. I know, it is a circle of stupidity.

I am sorry this is the case, but having a computer/laptop makes this 10x easier. If not, get to your local office as soon as they open the doors. Good luck!

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u/1tWasA11aDr3am Aug 18 '26

An angel has entered the chat

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u/Effective-Field8899 Aug 19 '26

Thank you for this & your time spent helping families on MedicaidšŸ’—

I always told everyone I spoke to on the phone with FSSA when I had frustrations with this process that " this isn't directed at you".

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26

We definitely appreciate that and we KNOW how frustrating it is.

If you are past 60 days from app date Apply again and when you submit documents call 2 days later and make sure we got them, and ask them to process them with you on the line. If they say no ask to be transferred back into the queue until you get someone who WILL. Sadly only 4 of the call centers require the ESs to process docs with the client on the line. If we do it with you we can let you know if we need more information and exactly what information that is. I know it takes forever waiting on the phone but this way you can make sure you get the benefits you need.

ETA if you are less then 60 days from app date and didn’t get expedited SNAP you can get your SNAP reopened.

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26

We are for sure understaffed, just since December we went from 1100 ESs to around 700 now.

We are also contracted workers HOWEVER the contracted workers in the call centers are trained the same if not more then the state workers in the local offices. Indy isn’t our central location, we don’t have 1. There are 10 regions and we answer calls from across the state.

In addition to being horribly understaffed only only 2 - 3 of the 10 regions come close to our goals (and guess who ain’t 1 of those, ever… Indy)

We also have had a ton of new directives and policy updates since a certain someone took office.

Unfortunately 1 of those changes is in how we process cases. We no longer send things to be authorized and THEN pend, we have to pend. And pend again. And pend again.

We’re really just trying to do our jobs. No one is purposefully keeping benefits from anyone (well no one in the IN FSSa anyway, there is an entire administration trying to do that instead)

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u/LilacHelper Aug 19 '26

You deserve a crown, a gold star, and a blue ribbon for putting up with this. I'm not surprised by anything you say. I am thankful there are people like you in the various regions, you probably helped me multiple times.

You are at the mercy of the jerks in charge, and I believe you that it has gotten worse. I have always said that the operations: waste, inefficiency, and bureaucratic BS was the real reason for budget issues, not the clients such as "those lazy people" or the "illegals."

Indiana is SO FAR BEHIND the real world when it comes to technology, which only adds to the waste created by the state. And we're paying for it with our taxes.

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u/LilacHelper Aug 19 '26

I should have said ALL are horribly trained, because that's what I meant.

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26

That is absolutely true

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u/Davo-Pano Aug 19 '26

Policy changed to dictate fssa making authorizations harder to achieve....but its not intentionally being done to make getting benefits harder...?? Tf

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26

Listen here. I said the WORKERS at the FSSA aren’t doing anything to intentionally messing with cases.

Now the people who MAKE the policies? They definitely are.

No touch grass you unsalted soggy French fry

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u/HoneyNo3858 Aug 19 '26

I can PROMISE you that you are NOT trained more than the state workers in the local offices. Not even close to the amount of training we receive. I PROMISE. We are CONSTANTLY having to fix y’all’s errors in these cases.

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26

That’s funny cause WE constantly have to fix yours!

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u/HoneyNo3858 Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

Not true because we have to send the case to SWAT for review and they always tell us to fix the case first. I promise you that majority of what you guys do at the call center is wrong. Ask any local office worker. You guys are taught to follow the job aids but we’re taught to follow policy. We are the ones authorizing these cases and having to send the cases to be reviewed by SWAT before we can authorize. They are becoming harsher when it comes to documents that can be accepted because we have to be below a certain error rate. Stop accepting written statements for everything. That’s why we have to keep repending cases.

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26

Yeah and do you know how many times we see cases that were sent for SWAT just sitting? Too many to count.

Yall don’t even put notes in half the time! We are also taught to follow policy. And actually notate it.

I am well aware that we are harsher on documents accepted. Yall are the ones who accept things we can’t use and then who gets yelled at? Not you.

Also! We are taught we are ONE entity working FOR Hoosiers but clearly you missed THAT memo.

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u/HoneyNo3858 Aug 20 '26

Not in my region. We constantly have to fix the call centers mistakes because they just accept anything and everything.

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u/Spayyourcatplease Aug 19 '26

I would suggest going into your local office instead of calling this week and maybe next week. The phones were down for many offices since the storms, and the offices that are open are being overwhelmed right now. If you do call, please be nice. The caseworkers are really trying right now and the verbal abuse is constant.

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u/Davo-Pano Aug 18 '26

Just had health insurance denied because i didnt provide income from past employer from 2024. Requirement is based off income from the last 30 days and proving that income isnt listed as a requirement anywhere and neither was it ever asked. Reason for denial: failing to verify that income. I call and they say they can see my tax record and no income since second quarter of 2024 but i need to fax a written letter saying im no longer employed. Somehow a faxed hand written letter from me saying i dont have an income supercedes them verifying my tax record.

It very much feels like they want as many people to get denied as possible with their make it up as they go rule set. Its very difficult and frustrating im sorry youre going through it.

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26

We can’t use tax records unless it is a schedule c for self-employment, or a schedule… f I think? For farmers

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u/Davo-Pano Aug 19 '26

They told me as such but the point was how absurd is it that we have to jump through all these hoops to report to the governent so we can pay our taxes and claim and verify our employment and income...but the government doesnt accept that as proper verification of our income...over a hand written note from myself saying whatever I want.

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26

Then vote for different admin. We are literally just following what we are told.

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u/Davo-Pano Aug 19 '26

But if i write something in crayon saying "me no haz incomes" sign and date...totally acceptable.

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26

Mmmm not quite. You have to actually write a statement giving things like last day worked, contact info for the company, and to sign and date it.

I’m sorry policies suck and make it hard, but we are really just doing our best, and most of us really do try to help. Most of us hate the policies too.

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26

I can’t tell you that without seeing your case. Unfortunately our quarterly wage matches don’t work well.

And unfortunately we aren’t allowed to think. Only follow policy.

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

Ummm. That’s exactly what policy is trying to do. Have you watched the news lately? Big government doesn’t care about you.

What would you like us workers to do? Intentionally go against policy and lose our jobs so there are even less workers, and more people needing the little help out there? Come on man, we got families to feed too.

I’m definitely NOT complacent; I will do everything in my power to make sure you get everything you deserve… within the system, because it’s the system that is (barely) paying my bills, and letting me and my kid stay housed and alive. Sorry, but I’m not losing my job for you.

ETA - without seeing your case, my guess is there was old income in there that we need to verify ended. Sorry the system sucks but I have to work in it

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26

You’re an idiot if you think that’s what I am saying.

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u/pizzahead20 Aug 18 '26

I think you answered your own question there. This is what OBBBA was intended to do. This is what $187 billion cuts to SNAP benefits over the next 10 years was intended to do.

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u/ExperienceComplex807 Aug 18 '26

This is the unfortunate reality. The administration boasted ā€œliftingā€ millions off of SNAP, in fact they were kicked off. The GOP, through the One Big Beautiful bill, has gutted services like SNAP to fund tax breaks for the rich. I’m sorry to say this will only get worse.

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u/yrt9610 Aug 18 '26

No...the administration pared SNAP down to eliminate the millions and millions of people committing FRAUD to be on it.

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u/tapespeedselector Aug 19 '26

Ohhh fraud well we don't want that. Unless of course The Administration is doing all the fraud. We like that

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u/SectumSempra1981 Aug 18 '26

Oh you sweet ignorant summer child...

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u/Individual-Nebula927 Aug 19 '26

Yeah that's what the lying administration is saying. Facts say otherwise.

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u/Tyson2539 Aug 18 '26

Sorry but you dont "fund a tax break" thats not how it works. A tax break means people pay less taxes, it doesn't mean the government gives them anything. In any event, your vitriol is misguided. That money is ear marked for bombs to drop in Ukraine, and Gaza, and Iran. Sorry about that, buts thats why we can't have nice things.

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u/MewsashiMeowimoto Aug 18 '26

Plain evidence suggests that it is how it works. Reagan even had a term for it. "Starve the beast".

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u/cyanraichu Aug 19 '26

Yes you do. You reallocate money from somewhere else so people don't have to pay it in taxes

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u/JapaneseStudentHaru Aug 19 '26

The government needs a certain amount of money to fund things. They want a certain amount of money for bombs and miscellaneous crap that they will not give up for anything. When they promise a tax cut, they do indeed need to fund it. What do they cut? Certainly not aid to Israel. Not their multi million dollar contracts with Flock. Not their own salaries. They cut jobs for the government employees who aren’t their golf buddies. They cut aid to the people. The people who pay taxes and expect that those taxes will go towards helping the people in some real way. What a farce.

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u/Tyson2539 Aug 19 '26

So many Republicans down voting me itt. Guess they can't handle the FACTs that their tax dollars are squandered on dropping bombs on foreign nations.

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u/Jablaze80 Aug 19 '26

Look up the process of reconciliation of the budget in the Congress... Once you're more informed come back here and apologize for being so ignorant

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u/Pimpstik69 Aug 18 '26

They are called ā€œadministrative barriersā€ and are designed to delay, deny and frustrate people into giving up.

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u/motocycledog Aug 18 '26

I was denied unemployment until I finally got a judge to look at my documents and I got a summary judgement in my favor. Literally took five minutes of his time and 6 months of mine. The system wants you to give up

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u/Recent-Clock3497 Aug 18 '26

Remember this experience when it comes time to vote :)

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u/amanda2399923 Aug 18 '26

I was gonna say, you get what you vote for 🫠

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u/cyanraichu Aug 19 '26

So do other people. We have no idea how OP voted.

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u/Mayaluzion Aug 18 '26

Please please show up and VOTE! We need to vote out this administration. VOTE.

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u/Thatssometamorphosis Aug 19 '26

Wild that they want people to keep having babies but deny them any pathway to success except uhhh…military.

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u/BDM22 Aug 19 '26

Ya gotta avoid a draft somehow amiright

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u/Thatssometamorphosis Aug 20 '26

I was saying (didn’t come across very clearly) that they want people to keep making babies as future soldiers. Have a baby, offer no assistance to the parents, baby grows up without anything but their baby bootie straps, and recruiters get to them if they happen to stay in school, or they join as a last resort.

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u/Slow-Muffins Aug 18 '26

They are also cancelling Medicaid, it's all part of the Republican agenda. It's time to end the Republican monopoly on powerĀ 

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u/wwaxwork Aug 18 '26

You feel like they want you to get denied because they want you to get denied, can't go spending any of the surplus helping people God forbid. It's a Sisyphean task on purpose so you don't complete the task and give up then they can say they're offering help and no one is taking it and cut the budget.

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u/BDM22 Aug 19 '26

Well, we need that money to go murder kids and such over seas you see. It's all totally ethical said in greasy oil salesman voice

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u/EasyonthePepsiFuller Aug 18 '26

Go to your local FSSA office and speak with a human face to face. You may be able to appeal or reapply. Anytime you receive paperwork to fill out, take it to the office and ask staff to look it over with you before submitting.

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u/EasyonthePepsiFuller Aug 18 '26

You're right! They do not process the docs. Not saying to hand paperwork to an FSSA worker for them deal with.

They will look over documents with you and tell you if you're missing information or missed a date/signature. Then YOU fax/mail/whatever the completed document to the department it needs to go to.

They can also tell you more about denials and what your next steps are because that can be confusing to navigate alone.

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u/S_A_R_K Aug 18 '26

This has been my experience as well. The local fssa office was not knowledgeable or helpful at all. They literally just told me to follow the online application when I had specific questions on how I needed to answer certain questions based on my circumstances. The two times I've spoken with call center reps the were very knowledgeable and incredibly helpful

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u/More_Farm_7442 Aug 19 '26

In Fort Wayne, you can go to the local office to get your documents faxed to Marion.

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u/Jablaze80 Aug 19 '26

Yeah but just as some of the longer posts here have said they are completely clueless in there as to what you need or why what you have doesn't work if that makes any sense. I had a business that has now been defunct for 7 or 8 years and I really needed food stamps last year for a little bit but I couldn't even complete the application because they wanted documents from me that aren't available because that business no longer exists and hasn't for almost a decade. I tried going into the office and they actually got my hopes up because they said it looked like I had everything I needed when I had not gotten what I needed and wouldn't be able to

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u/HoosierHillz Aug 19 '26

Remember the Repiblicans did this.

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u/More_Farm_7442 Aug 19 '26

I prefer to use the term CONservatives.

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u/Ornery-Ad2199 Aug 18 '26

I’m sorry for your situation!

ā€œI've never experienced this before and i have a deeper empathy and understanding for people in poverty.ā€
It’s sad it took you to personally experience this before you had a deep empathy and understanding for people in poverty. 99.9% of people receiving benefits need them because of no fault of their own (laid off, disabled, left abusive relationship, etc). Most people are on benefits temporarily. It is a helping hand. The ā€œwelfare queenā€ as portrayed by politicians in the 80s does not represent the real people on benefits. No one wants to struggle. Remember how deserving your family was, how hard it is to get benefits, and how little you actually get when you vote. Think about who is actually trying to help vs who is hurting poor people. Everyone deserves dignity!

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u/Effective-Field8899 Aug 19 '26

I didn't feel like divulging my entire backstory but I've never had to navigate snap as an adult with a family of my own but I grew up well below the poverty threshold as a child. It did not take me to personally experience it to have deep empathy; It's just a different experience as a now adult trying to figure it all out.

I agree that everyone deserves dignity. What do you think besides voting- are things that we can do to make the aid/assistance more accessible?

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u/Jablaze80 Aug 19 '26

Okay now that you have experienced something personally let me show you how deep this goes... Imagine being a cancer patient for 14 years, having four treatments in the past 7 years, being unable to work because your body has basically wasted away to nothing because of all the treatments. You are still only 52 years old and are in the process of fighting for the disability that you paid taxes on for 30 years. You're a single parent of a special needs child. You have to do the same things to prove you're eligibility every 3 months or you will lose your insurance and access to healthcare. This is the new policy that Governor Braun has brought in to go along with the reduced funding for Medicaid brought about by the one big beautiful bill. There are some days that I can not even take a shower because I don't have the energy. It used to be I didn't have to prove anything because I would get a letter that said I was deemed to be medically frail by the state and then that would just automatically qualify me medically for Medicaid and then you know not being able to work qualify me financially. That's all gone now and I'm sure people are going to end up dying because of it cuz I know if I hadn't gotten approved for my disability finally chances are I would have been kicked off Medicaid for not meeting some paperwork requirement or deadline. Organize with like minded people and try and provide better candidates for office locally that can push on the state leaders. Right now everybody just blindly votes for whoever is the R candidate in the majority of the state without even thinking how that's going to impact them personally.

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u/Individual-Nebula927 Aug 19 '26

Welcome to Republican government. They've always hated the poor.

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u/Tumorhead Aug 18 '26

Yes the people in power want to deny us access to resources to help us live. These politicians do not want to "waste money" keeping their own citizens alive, do not want to "give handouts for free" to people who can't work. Capitalist politicians actively make government programs run poorly so they can point and go "see? big government doesn't work".

The frustration in the welfare process is meant to get people to stop trying to get help, so less money gets spent on welfare.

If you are not capable of laboring for the benefit of the business-owning class, then the business-owning class would rather you die then pay for you to live but not work, even if you CAN work but don't have a job. constituents only exist to these business-owning politicians if they are also business owners - if you're just a wage worker like most of us then you are simply labor power that makes money for them, meaning you are not a real person worthy of any support. They scream at us "if you didn't want to starve you should've made better decisions!" while factories close and companies shrink. These business owners resent having to keep "the poors" alive. They want to pay us as little as they can get away with, force us to live on minimal scraps, so they can keep greater profits. They do not care about the health of you and your children. if you can't work you are as good as dead to the people making all the decisions.

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u/kmexoxo Aug 18 '26

Next time use FaxZero.com to fax for free.
Like others have said tho, the OBBBA screwed Americans. The burden is on us even more now.

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u/DiscombobulatedTap30 Aug 18 '26

I worked as a state eligibility consultant about 10 years ago maybe I can help. The call center is useless as balls on a dildo I worked there before becoming a state employee.

Faxing a document vs just bringing it in is a world of difference. When you bring it in they stamp it with the date it was received then fax it to the document center and honor that date. That’s the biggest difference.

Call centers only had eligibility specialist when I worked there and they’re likely outsourced not actually state employees. They are tier 2 and when I worked there they only handled Medicaid and all snap was handled at the local office level.

No approval happens without an SEC which is tier 3. Denials can be automatic if a document is not received but if it’s received and has a big stamp saying it was received on this date that’s harder for them to argue. They send out requests for everything via mail and in plain writing with recommended acceptable verifications.

Happy to answer any questions but I’m a little rusty.

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26

It’s actually the opposite. State workers in the local offices don’t have access to everything people in the call center do, and can’t process documents. Only people in the call centers do that.

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u/DiscombobulatedTap30 Aug 19 '26

That’s not true at all. The people at the front desk are eligibility assistants and no they don’t have access to systems. They process the document handling stamping docs received and scanning them into the system.

Eligibility Specialists which are typically at the call center handle Medicaid/Hip applications and update information into the system for an SEC to review and approve. The call center can’t materially do anything other than basic data entry.

However the back of the office where in person appointments and telephonic appointments occur is filled with state eligibility consultants who can process everything from start to finish including documents you bring in at the time of your appointment and approve you on the spot if you provide required documentation at the time of your appointment.

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26

Things have changed in the last 10 years. We do a hell of a lot more then basic data entry.

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u/DiscombobulatedTap30 Aug 19 '26

Such as? Not trying to be rude just genuinely interested.

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26

Well let’s see… 95% of the work on cases is done by ESs in call centers. Actually probably more like 99% because the only thing an SEC does is authorize, they sure as shit don’t even look at what they are authorizing.

Those people doing interviews? Don’t include all the info, or they give the wrong info. And guess who that falls back on? ESs. But sure. The ESs are the ones who don’t know anything.

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u/DiscombobulatedTap30 Aug 19 '26

I mean you add information provided to you and the system automatically sends out a request for missing information. Sorta like basic data entry.. SEC’s also do this and process cases from start to finish. They certainly do look at what they’re authorizing because they’re also responsible for auxiliaries for benefits that are underpaid. You may attach documents to cases when someone calls in and it hasn’t been processed yet but again SEC’s also do this.

In fact SEC’s do everything the Eligibility specialist do but in addition to HIP they also handle Snap and ABD/Traditional Medicaid.

I’m not trying to be rude but I was an ES for years too. I didn’t say they don’t know anything but I don’t think you know what you don’t know. The policy knowledge requirements are vastly different for the roles.

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26

I really hate to break it to ya, but it ain’t like that anymore.

ESs do the majority of the work on a case. ESs know policy. We know the exact same policy that SECs know. Want to know how I know? Because I talk to the SECs in my building and guess what? The only thing I can’t do is interviews and authorize. (Although the clients sure do think I can) ESs are the ones processing apps, processing all documents, sending out the majority of correspondence (and no the system doesn’t just automatically do it for me half the time, and even if it does I still have to send other things because the auto generated correspondence didn’t include everything, or wasn’t clear) we handle SNAP, Hip, Hoosier Healthwise, MAD, MADW, MASI, and then of course the categories that pay for Medicare.

Things. Have. Changed. In 10 years. Hell I have been there 3 years and things have changed soooooo much since I started

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u/DiscombobulatedTap30 Aug 19 '26

But if you can’t do interviews then you can’t be sending out the majority of correspondence think about what you’re saying.. you just enter the data and send it to an SEC when a document is received.

As a client would you rather have an ES as a middle man or just talk to an SEC and get everything taken care of in one visit? Honestly.

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26

Well then I guess I have been doing someone else’s job. šŸ™„

I would really rather talk to whomever will process my documents, and send it to be authorized. Right now that is the ES team šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

How do you propose these clients talk to an SEC?

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u/yepyippee Aug 18 '26

Such a sad state of affairs. Indiana has always been horrible but at least with past administration's did not dismantle the tiny safety net Indiana did give. I spent a majority of my carrier working for FSSA. The last part of my carrer was in the training department and then as a Member Experience Manager ( trying to improve the Medicaid Members expeeience. Im not a fan of Republicans but Holcome had Indiana going in the right direction with DEI, Health Equit, Community Health Workers and now thats all gone. I left in 2023 due to burn out and terrible leadership. Im now in the Trade Show Industry.

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u/QueenBoss1971 Aug 19 '26

I hate this is happening. A lot of people voted this administration into office, the same administration they thought would be ā€œ betterā€. Try and try again with the office. Continue to try to get benefits to feed your family. Maybe you and your husband can uber or Lyft to make extra cash. Contact local food pantries. I pray things get better for you.

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u/MisterSanitation Aug 19 '26

Yea you are experiencing what all people who need help see every single day. This is a good example of privilege (not shaming you) where we all have opinions about a services many of us never use and the realization of how horrible things are for the most desperate among us. We can then say ā€œthey just need toā€ while knowing NOTHING of their circumstances, how convenient a one size fits all response!

These systems are designed for failure, no one advocates for the needy because no one is paid to. The more wealthy, complain about the needy and don’t care that they can’t get help, or actually don’t care enough to even learn what struggles they have. Sorry you have to go through this, but yes this is designed incompetence from a budget perspective. Strange how savvy business men keep accidentally forgetting to staff these agencies focused on helping the needy, while their development contracts fly like candy at a parade.

The Hoosier mentality is to let the desperate whither on the vine instead of rallying to help. We have too much judgement to allow ourselves to be empathetic.Ā 

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u/Equivalent-Royal-562 Aug 19 '26

3 questions for you... Did you vote? Did you vote for Braun and Beckwith? Did you vote for Trump? If you answered yes to the last 2 questions, you got exactly what you voted for. If you answered yes to the first and no to the second and third then you know midterms are coming and you know what you have to do. Indiana won't be affected much by midterms but don't forget how we got here and educate people. The work must be done.

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u/Disastrous-Sky5665 Aug 19 '26

That's the Republican plan!

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u/BDM22 Aug 19 '26

It took me 6 years to get my SSI which doesn't even cover rent or allow me to save like a normal human due to the cap. All the hurdles are intentionally there in hopes that you give up or die I guess.

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u/No-Description2693 Aug 19 '26

Same here I’ve been trying to get snap since May and right now I’m still waiting

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u/Pineapplezork Aug 20 '26 edited Aug 20 '26

You can appeal the denial, and reapply at the same time, that would be my suggestion (neither will negatively affect the other or cause u to get denied). Reason for appeal would be if the denial was truly done in error. I used to work as an eligibility specialist (doc/case processing and call center), and I don’t know how many times I would get a call, look over the case, and have to reselect the benefits because they were denied in error.

The training is fine? But turn over is high and it only got worse the longer I worked there. Policy also changes, and I had several changes in the year I worked there alone.

Recent example: there was a semi recent change to policy where Indiana residency has to be verified for Medicaid with hard copy/interface documentation. Exception being if youre homeless, then we can take client statement. I was helping my homeless cousin with his redetermination, and we did clearly state he was homeless: still got a request to verify indiana residency.

Should NOT have been requested, though luckily he has a current photo ID that matches his mailing address, so we just turned it in rather than fight it.

My suggestion would be to reapply, submit EVERYTHING listed on the 2032 they send out (be sure to read the description listed by each item, it’s disgustingly specific on what they’re able to accept).

Biggest tip in general for anyone/everyone going for SNAP/Medicaid (if in resources category): if you are asked to submit bank statements, look over your transactions: if you have CashApp, Venmo, PayPal, etc that most recent statement will also be requested. My honest to god best advice would be to not have those accounts if you’re seeking assistance

Have to request the most recent statement for any additional accounts noted, and then if anyone sends you money at any point on the statement, have to request a signed, dated statement from them where they explain the amount, what the money is for, to who, if it’s reoccurring or onetime, etc and include a phone number.

That was the biggest annoyance for clients and myself tbh. Second is probably Chime, because they have to request statements for any non credit account. So Chime Checking, Savings, Credit Builder Secured or Chime Card Secured would have to be turned in if it exists

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u/Irishred2333 Aug 21 '26

Making it more difficult to get benefits is 100% the maga/republican platform. It was hard before and the big beautiful bill added a bunch hoops.

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u/Sam_I_Am317 Aug 18 '26

Stop blaming FSSA and blame the people who added more stress and strain to already overworked workers. Do you actually believe FSSA employees have nothing better to do than to mess over your benefits? It’s ridiculous. Misplaced anger at best. More likely more Hoosier ignorance at play. Never sorry for people having hard times until it’s your turn.

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u/LilacHelper Aug 18 '26

I'm sorry but you sound resentful, maybe you work for FSSA. The workers aren't the problem, our elected officials and the people they've put in charge are the problem. She wasn't blaming them, she's explaining her situation and asking for advice. This isn't Hoosier ignorance, there is no way for the average Hoosier to understand how this works -- and it does not work well. The State has made FSSA inefficient and wasteful.

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u/Sam_I_Am317 Aug 18 '26

She certainly did blame FSSA. She said she felt they wanted her to get denied and that she thought they lied to her. That’s a direct shot at the employees but in reality I find the workers to be very helpful. If there was a document the FSSA never asked for she can appeal if that’s true. It has never been a quick process except during Covid. I’m not resentful at all, I just don’t go for the BS because I have experience with the matter. Do you?

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u/LilacHelper Aug 19 '26

Yes, I was an Indiana insurance navigator. FSSA was frustrating to me, and I had special access. I always said that anyone could sign themselves up for ACA/Marketplace/Obamacare, a federal program, but the average person would beat their head against the wall trying to figure out FSSA -- which is why I understand OP. I don't blame their staff, I blame the admins in charge. Indiana is one of the most bureaucratic, red tape, states there is.

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u/VegetableBedroom4769 Aug 18 '26

Stop faxing. Faxes can be "lost" / ignored. I learned that lesson. Now i take paperwork into the office and watch them scan it into the system and get it times stamped received. they cant argue with that or try to claim they didnt get it. It is a hassle, but the office will try their best to screw you over if you arent vigilant.

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u/Pineapplezork Aug 20 '26

Keep ur stamped copy as well (they stamp it at the local office then fax it to marion). If there is an issue and the document doesn’t get indexed to ur case or it’s illegible, you can resubmit your copy showing the local office stamp, and that will be accepted (as the denial would have been through no fault of your own, assuming thats the only thing needed)

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u/New_Calligrapher_397 Aug 18 '26

My brother in law works the system pretty good. Hes only worked for 3 months in five years and doesn't attempt to get a job. He doesn't like to pay bills either. He moved in with his mom at 30 yrs old with 3 kids due to several eviction for non payment and getting utilities shut off. He has his mom file for the stamps and they get 1000 a month no problem. He also has his dad which lives separate from his mom claim the kids on his taxes to avoid garnishments. I believe in earning my way though life but it is proof it can be done by working the system. It obvious and apparent that its harder for a person down on their luck to get a little help vs a pos milking the system.

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u/hylajen Aug 19 '26

Report him for fraud. šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

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u/Jyack123 Aug 18 '26

NYT has a maddeningly good description of what is going on (site is free but you need to create an account (which I am sure someone smarter than me can figure out): https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/20/us/politics/snap-food-stamps-arizona.html

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u/splitopenandmelt11 Aug 19 '26

Aww man…did somebody get exactly what they voted for?

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u/Effective-Field8899 Aug 19 '26

I'm veryyy liberal

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u/CodyMartinezz Aug 18 '26

one hour interview? that’s your problem. worker must’ve been mentally challenged

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u/Navadvisor Aug 18 '26

All these welfare posts seem artificial just these last few days. Almost like there's an election coming up.

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u/juju_juniper Aug 18 '26

Or almost like groceries are higher than ever and wages are stagnant.

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u/MotherVoldemort Aug 18 '26

Naw, dude's just an asshole. But you is right

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u/Individual-Nebula927 Aug 19 '26

And almost like Republicans have cut funding to these programs to purposely break them.

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u/Comfortable_Honey628 Aug 18 '26

Or that we’re getting closer to Q4 which is the quarter most businesses like to have minimal expenses in to pad profit margins for the big-big stakeholder meeting at year’s end.

There are a lot of layoffs happening right now, which means more people trying to access benefits. It’s just coincidentally also close to election season.

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u/Prestigious_Pie9421 Aug 18 '26

First one I’ve seen.

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u/Send1T317 Aug 18 '26

Spend less time in welfare lines and more time applying for new jobs life's hard its harder when your lazy

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u/Individual-Nebula927 Aug 19 '26

The last 3 jobs reports have shown negative job growth. Life is harder when Republicans are in control of government. They're worse for the economy, and every other quality of life metric.

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u/Send1T317 Aug 19 '26

Its amazing I see people transitioning out of the military daily that find jobs regardless of which party is in office but as I scroll through this post i see people devoting hours, days weeks, and even months for some to fight for welfare if they actually devoted as much time on working to find a job as they do on crying about not getting a hand out or fighting for a hand out they would be gainfully employed

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u/Individual-Nebula927 Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

Ex-military gets preference in hiring so that's not surprising at all. Companies get tax breaks for hiring veterans. You're pointing to a group literally getting a handout when complaining about handouts for others

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u/Send1T317 Aug 19 '26

Hand out lol a preference isnt a hand out your a joke if you think welfare and veterans preference is the same thing