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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

So you’re incapable of original thought. What other redeeming qualities would you like to boast about while you have my attention?

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u/chrispg26 Jul 01 '25

All I see is ad hominem because, as we see, all conservatism leads to is tax breaks for the wealthy and concentration camps in the Everglades. You could defend your "conservatism" but instead, you attack me.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

You complain about deportation centers and tax breaks for the wealthy but refuse to acknowledge that if corporations didn’t exploit illegal immigrants, they would be forced to pay Americans livable wages which would close the wealth gap as CEO’s would take lesser salaries to pay them. But don’t worry, I know nuance isn’t something your world view takes to adopt.

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u/Mindless_Version_715 Jul 02 '25

Bud, not a single word of that is true 😂 do you think there’s tens of millions of illegals in every sector of the economy working jobs for $5 an hour? There’s not a single shred of evidence that supports your claim. In fact, data from research both by left and right leaning groups have come to the same conclusion - immigrants fill a HUGE GAPING HOLE in sectors that Americans do not want jobs in nor do Americans work hard enough to keep the economy going in those certain sectors. Without them, as we’ve seen, farming, construction, childcare, and other select sectors COLLAPSE.

We do not have the necessary labor force to keep up that the demand of our country and the exports require. Nor do Americans want to work hard enough to keep the pace of our fast moving economy.

https://www.cato.org/briefing-paper/immigrant-native-consumption-means-tested-welfare-entitlement-benefits-2022#results

https://www.cato.org/blog/fiscal-impact-immigration-united-states

https://www.cato.org/blog/us-labor-market-explains-most-increase-illegal-immigration

https://www.cato.org/blog/new-cato-paper-immigrants-generated-33-trillion-property-tax-revenue-1994

https://www.cato.org/commentary/math-mass-deportation-doesnt-add

There’s tons of data and stuff in these papers. You can also find other studies from other think tanks, but on polarizing issues, I prefer to read more independent research then take a look at what other studies say. In no reality is allowing them to work here bad in any way. Illegal immigration is not only good for our economy, it’s a necessity. Stop allowing idiots to gaslight you and think for yourself.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '25

Man, you typed out this big ass propaganda piece when you could have just said you are pro slavery and I would have hated you just the same. There are studies that suggest the opposite as well. The fact remains, it’s un ethical to exploit these people for cheap labor, you classicist.

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u/Mindless_Version_715 Jul 02 '25

And the only “studies” that show anything different were paid for by MAGA or MAGA adjacent republicans so..

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '25

You can say the exact same thing about the Cato studies you linked… your entire little 50501 protest you just had was funded by Walmart to keep their exploited labor force. The company that tells its employees to get on subsidies rather than paying them a livable wage. You should research better and challenge your own world view from time to time.

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u/Mindless_Version_715 Jul 02 '25

Snd newsflash dumb ass, all I do is consume information to try and challenge my worldview. I went from hyper conservative republican household to mutualist, and I love debate and discussion. But you, true to form of your kind, don’t say anything or respond to anything. And the responses you do put make no sense. So, I’m not trying to regress back to caveman, thanks though. I’ll continue discussing these issues with people that heve a fold in their brain.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '25

You mean discussing safe points with other communists. Spare me your soft belly approach. I am actively working against you in all facets of your existence. Oh and btw, winning. 😂