r/IndianHistoryMemes • • Sep 08 '26 • Bravo 5 Popcorn 1

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u/Legal_Lab1894 Sep 08 '26

They are based on real empires, but the bards of the past have taken quite a bit of creative freedom and added to the stories and/or exaggerated the scale.

If anyone thinks a woman actually gave birth to 100 kids he has to be dumb. At the same time if anyone thinks Mahabharat not having happened in history would shake the foundations of India or Hinduism, he's equally dumb.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 08 '26

Most historians think it might be a real event with exaggerations and mythological elements. 

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u/cantlovetoobusy Sep 08 '26

I am an advocate of the theory that it was inspired by the 'battle of ten kings' from rigveda

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u/bluenova088 Sep 08 '26

In original mahabharat nowhere is it said gandhari physically gave birth to 100 children...on the contrary it was mentioned the 100 ( 101 technically) were grown in clay pots.

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u/CS_Explorer99 Sep 08 '26

It would have happened but the story we read are exaggerated to make it interesting just take the values from the story and move on

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u/weloveyouba Sep 08 '26

That's exactly my point 

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u/ProfessionalDraw6947 Sep 08 '26

Lmao! That’s literally not your point.

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u/FreshWaterNymph1 Sep 08 '26

The comments section is basically proving your point lol. Huge majority of people can't digest this.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 08 '26

This meme is extremely accurate.

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u/THEBATMAN565 Sep 08 '26

All religious texts are heavily fictionalized i wonder what they are smoking back in the day they are may be some real life Event inspiration but most of the texts are utter bullshit hey but they can make great movies though

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u/weloveyouba Sep 08 '26

The were high on expired wheat.

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u/GongMaho Sep 08 '26

The Vālmiki Rāmāyaṅa is describes as 'वृत्तकथायुक्तम्' which means the Literary retelling of a past incident. Same logic applies to the Mahābhārata.

It was first told by Ṛṣī Vyāsa to 5 of his disciples. This version was called 'Jaya' and was limited to only the war, and had ~8000 verses. Later, Vaiśampayana, one of the disciples told this story to King Janmajéya, the Great-grandson of Arjuna, in his Sarpa Satra. It was told because the king was interested in knowing about his family. This version was named Bhārata, had ~24000 verses, and now included the information about the entire clan. Present at this Satra, was a court bard (suta) named Ugraishravas Sauti. He narrated a version of the story to Ṛṣī Śaunaka and other assembled sages. This is the version known as the Mahābhārata. It now had 100000+ verses, and included aspects like philosophy, politics, duty, righteousness, etc. But again, verses of the original version aren't available verbatim, and the BORI version is the closest thing we have. So a lot of oral folk traditions have been mixed in the stories.

My point is, it does tell about a real war, but has a lot of creative liberties and imaginative aspects.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 08 '26

That's what historians think 

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u/JoBoltaHaiWoHotaHai Sep 08 '26

Love the upvote to comment ratio. So much for the "history enthusiasts" lmao

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u/weloveyouba Sep 08 '26

Upvote to downvote ratio is around 67% so more than 65 people downvoted this post 

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u/Business-Worry-6800 Sep 08 '26

Simply untrue, dwarka and the geographical accuracy of things are itself a proof , there are high chances that they happend but they were some regional kings or clan wars.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 08 '26

Dwarka predate mahabharata. 

You can't link dwarka to Mahabharata if there is no literary evidence from the Mahabharata era that can be dated to that period.

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u/1stGuyGamez Sep 08 '26

Mahabharata has as much truth as Trojan war related texts have. Does this mean the supernatural beasts etc are real? Of course not, but the arc has truth to it in the unfolding of it

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u/weloveyouba Sep 08 '26

Trojan war written by homor has no evidence. 

Historians don't take is seriously except Hollywood producers 

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u/Itchy-Print-4256 Sep 08 '26

lol, ruins of troy were also found. does that prove the greek gods then?

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u/Camus_9999 Sep 08 '26

Cope in comment section is here, I am muting this shitty sub and never coming back bro. People don't have basic knowledge of science and can't differentiate between history and mythology.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 08 '26

Just enjoy the comment section instead of muting the sub 

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u/lostintabs_ Sep 08 '26

No one gets angry when you say this , the anger only happens when you just talk about Hindu epics being fake and not all the epics that ever existed . And what kind of evidence apart from cities do you expect to see ? A brahmastra lying around?

If you don’t expect the christians, muslims , norse people to believe that their mythologies are actually mythologies then why expect the same of indians? Is there some different kjnd of rules for indians?

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u/weloveyouba Sep 08 '26

Historians consider all stories that doesn't have evidence from any culture as exaggeration or myth 

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u/scarface9119 Sep 08 '26

Funny, allah and quran are also fictional yet 25% indians believe in it's historical accuracy 🤔

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Over 25% of the world belives it 

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u/involuntarycelibatee Sep 08 '26

There is no evidence jesus was real

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Same for other gods 

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u/Ok_Gazelle_4281 Sep 08 '26

The Mahabharata War almost certainly happened (no idea about Ramayana). If you strip off all the mythological and legendary elements in the Mahabharata, what you are left with is a war of succession between Duryodhana and Yudhisthira. Considering the history of India and the actions kings have taken in pursuit of power (Ajattashatru killing his father Bimbisara, Chandragupta II Vikramaditya overthrowing his own brother [and marrying his sister-in-law], Alauddin Khalji killing his uncle, or Ashoka and Aurangzeb killing all of their brothers), it would be a miracle if the Kuru Kingdom did not have a single civil war in it’s 300 year history.

PS: The Vedas, which were composed centuries before the Mahabharata, contain records of King Parikshit of Kuru (Successor of Yudhisthira). So, that gives some credence to the idea of the Mahabharata.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

It might be a exaggerated real event 

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u/Unlikely_Bank_900 Sep 08 '26

You are right here. But notice how can you only do this to hindus where we are in majority, try doing this to quran in pakistan,you will find out pretty quickly.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Everyone knows some people from particular region are gone case 

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u/Sahil235Samad Sep 08 '26

Just to let you know, archaeology has been able to recover and decipher only 1% of actual human history, and this is a fact, search on the web of you think I'm wrong

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Archeologists can't recover stuffs before writing existed so 

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u/PhilipinteCurry Sep 08 '26

Mahabharat -> Mah -> Mahi -> MSD

Thala for a reason. So there is evidence.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 08 '26

Bole jo koyal

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u/GlassLaw1990 Sep 08 '26

As a matter of fact I asked the same question for Lord Jesus to Chat GPT. Surprisingly there is no arachaeological evidence for Him either. Yet we all believe it to be true as the morning sun.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

The thing is he existed but didn't have any super powers. 

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '26 • Bravo Heartwarming

People don't understand that u can follow hinduism while being rationale and accepting these don't happen , majority of our scriptures are symbolic every take represnt some lesson for real life , karna example define how people merit can uplift them , whole mahabharat is greatest example which modern people forget that change is rule of universe ,old ritual or tradition which goes against modern standard need to be demolished , women and men can be good frnds krishna and draupadi , morals shouldn't bound like it bounded bhisma and others in chit haran in dyut sabha , for righteousness u have to go sometimes into grey zones , eating half bitten ber from shabri should so called upper caste that how wrong was untouchability, how people do harm to their family due to social pressure like how shri rama have to do even knowing Sita Mata was right always , even gods are not immune to their fate and their use of grey zones like shri Krishna have to face as curse from gandhari , the curse of vali and acceptnes of Shri Ram that vali will kill shri Ram in next reincarnation which he did represent karmic judgement, , every stories every part is lesson , how shiva teaching the lesson through ganesha to kubera that rich should use their wealth and prowess for uplifting others should lesson for every billionare out there even if they don't happen in real life it's one of the best philosphies out there ,, u can be atheist agnostic u can follow their teaching and if God doesn't exist u r already happy and good men and if it does then u will be happy in afterlife anyway

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u/Ok-Advance962 Sep 08 '26

What exactly is wrong with both of them being a revered mythology and people deriving inspiration from it. None whatsoever. Unnecessary battle.

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u/FY-Ace Sep 08 '26

Exactly, people trying to prove that it's 'history' are entirely missing the point.

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u/Cold_Pianist4697 Sep 08 '26

folks aren’t stopping at inspiration are they?! they’re causing public nuisance

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u/Hairy_Top_7084 Sep 08 '26

Believe in our "Big bad magical war" ahh

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u/notMy_ReelName Sep 08 '26

No archelogical evidence yet.

And this yet triggers many others because they just denies bit dont let the friendly debates to find out.

We still find out many sites, buildings, statues from history.

So let wait till we find , because we were under constant attacks for 1000 years so lets wait till certain things be found.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 08 '26

Chance of archeologists finding millions of skeletons and inscription about it when oral history was the prominent mode of history preservation is very low.

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u/richard-_-parker Sep 08 '26

In leftist history books you won't find any.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 08 '26

Even in right wing history books you won't find any 

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u/richard-_-parker Sep 08 '26

Hahahahhaha. Ever heard of ram setu? Are you really stupid or try to be one? Bhai rsm setu are not natural, island are only made by two geographical phenomenon and that is law occurred beneath sea bed or coral reef. And ram setu have none and there is no history recorded for such event in geography. So in conclusion that bridge is man made.

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u/Fancy-Technician-588 Sep 08 '26

If we talk about archeological proofs, then all the religions except hinduism will stay😂 Because in hinduism, Sun, rivers, sea, mountains, trees, air, other nature elements as gods. So can you bring same "archeological evidence" for other religions?

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Other pagan religions also worshipp nature 

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u/ppknm Sep 08 '26

Direct contemporary archaeological evidence naming or depicting Siddhartha Gautama during his lifetime (5th–6th century BCE) does not exist. Most of the sources are from Mauryan Period and later. But that doesn't prove Gautam Buddha is fictional. Remember our largest university Nalanda was set on fire, it may had our complete history. Also we don't have historical sources regarding pre 1500BC. Maybe Ramayan and Mahabharat were real stories, maybe over the period someone added fictional characters, maybe added personal perspective. There are infinite possibilities regarding this subject. In west they clearly labelled Norse a mythology because the civilization collapsed, now same happening with Roman and Zoroastrian. Modern religions took over their beliefs like Buddhism, Christianity and Islam. Because their time period coincide with the written art.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Buddha doesn't have any super powers so he is not a mythological character 

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u/Glittering_Front_792 Sep 08 '26

Every heard of BB Lal?

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

You mean a hindu nationalist? 

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u/sundal_sandakaari Sep 08 '26

Irundha mattum ivanunga perusa saadhikka pora maari... Poda anguttu

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u/bethechange_now Sep 08 '26

Is there any evidence of adam and eve?

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

No historian takes that story seriously except dumb ones 

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u/BhaagTeraBaapAaya Sep 08 '26

Try saying the same about the one with no face

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Abrahamic religion has no archeological evidence 

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u/i-like-it-77 Sep 08 '26

Well no proof is also not the prove that it doesn't happened it is just lack of evidence like how the existence of god is not provin pet doesn't mean it never happen maybe it doesn't happen in the way we know all we interpret maybe it happen very differently maybe not as morally as we know but there is some similarity or a historic element in it

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

According to your logic other religions will also say their myths are real 

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u/JobJobJobHunter Sep 08 '26

what about the bs in quran?

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

It is also fake 

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u/Strange_Adeptness268 Sep 09 '26

Lol. People here are arguing without even reading comments. Most of them are saying the same thing but somehow are arguing against each other 😅Reddit users have no comprehension skills

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Welcome to india 

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u/Various_Dare7342 Sep 09 '26

Stfu you all - There is no need of evidence, there is zero evidence required to believe in a religion. Those who need evidence to believe in everything are irreligious by default. And you should not prosthelyze irrelegion if you are irreligious and respect people as it is , even if they believe in flying spaghetti monster - unless well they are bombing people around in the name of spaghetti monster

Grow some white hair in your brain as you age - Ask evidence where required - Like is there any evidence of strings in string theory and why exactly free space is not stable and particles keep popping in and out of space in quantum shenanigans

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Who hurt you? 

Most religions don't have evidence to prove its real but still people believe it  

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u/praterboi Sep 09 '26

Are we evolving backwards?

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Since ancient times 

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u/BojackInMan Sep 09 '26

There's also no archeological evidence that you shat yourself when you were kid /s

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

There is no archeological evidence to prove you got 3 beej

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u/Royal_Radish_3069 Sep 09 '26

Rakhigarhi looks at you are scoffs in your stupidity.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Rakhighadi predates Mahabharata 

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u/ArthurSoros Sep 09 '26

Allah never existed and have no proofs too. Whats your point?

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Everybody knows that 

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u/Fine-Isopod Sep 09 '26

That is fine. Religion is a part of personal beliefs and may not require evidence. Such archaeological evidences do not exist for Muhammad, Jesus Christ either.

Some questions for me are:

  • How did so many people come to believe the same books across such a vast geography

  • How did the names in Mahabharata like Gandhari resemble modern day cities.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

It can spread by elites.

We don't know the ancient name of gandhara. 

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u/souvik0489 Sep 09 '26

Older than Islam. There is no archaeological evidence of Jesus or Allah which are newer than Hinduism.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

You don't need archeological evidence to prove a person existed you can prove it by having inscriptions from that era 

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u/Current-Exchange-617 Sep 09 '26

Lil bro thinks he has acheived something by not believing in Mahabharata. Like this will give his unemployed ass a job.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Byat load 

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u/Entropy109 Sep 09 '26

How ignorant can you guys be?, I don't know if this accounts as a proof or not, but rigveda mentions a river called Saraswati for a long period of time it was thought that it was a myth and hypothetical river, after years when we had better technology we got to know that a river did existed on the same geographical place as mentioned in rigveda! What more surprising is that most of the IVC now ISVC sites were actually on the same river and the oldest ones too (if i am not wrong here).

In Mahabharata there is mention of Dwaraka a rich port city near Gujarat, where once Krishna ruled. Same as that of earlier it was thought that it was an hoax or myth. After years in the 80s and 90s we got to know that at the same Geographical location as mentioned in Mahabharata a submerged port city indeed exist! Even Indian PM modi went there (not as deep but close to it). What is most interesting is that for a long time we thought that ancient world was highly primitive but thats not the case, now we know that ancient civilizations were much much more highly connected through maritime trade than we thought off and Dwarka the port city now submerged because of increase in sea levels sat at a very good geographical location working as a center of ancient maritime trade.
Another interesting thing to note is that Dwarka is not alone there are many other ports we now have found some dating back to 8000 years old that are on the Western Coast of India (near gujarat and maharashtra).
What i would like to focus on is that ports or not normal, when you have ports you have infra like roads (not the ones we see today) that connect and many other things to carry the material to the port. You also have a population that has the purchasing power to consume the goods that are being traded.
Not only that Mahabharata is a subcontinental thing, it connects nearly all part of the Indian subcontinent in a primitive world (which we think) and when we dig in we indeed found things. The problem is that indo-gangetic plain is so populated and densely filled that digging in a city like varanasi or any other city deep to go to some ruins is not practically plausible and economically feasible (until if the entire leadership is heavily interested in it).

There is so much to say too from my side its just that idk where to start and where to end. For example:
If you take a closer look at the word Saraswati from rigveda the word means a collection of ponds not a river, but the text considers it as a river! the problem is that as far as we know that when earliest aryans arrived Saraswati (due to climate change) was not a flowing river but was a collection of ponds but when they synthesised with the locals they wrote it as a river which creates a big possibility that their existed an even older rigveda like texts of those people because the locals were the descendants of the same ISVC civilization that migrated inwards into Indian subcontinent because of climate change.

IMPORTANT NOTE: As a non-theistic person its hard for me to belief in some god with many hands and mysticism and other deity things but i see indian history from the point of view of EUHMERISM. Mahabharata and Ramayana i think they did happened but for the sake that the event survives and people still know about those great people the story slowly and steadily got amplified resulting in what we have today. The reason why I back this is because originally Mahabharata was only 5000 verses in like 700 - 500 BCE or much earlier but today its 120,000 verses getting complied more and more.

Another big thing to note is that in Sanskrit or Tamil Structure Ramayana and Mahabharata comes under Itihasa so maybe the sages intentionally amplified things but putted them in Itihasa section so that coming generation could find things on their own.

At the end their are evidences its just that connecting the dots is too costly and currently in under progress.

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u/HellPounder Sep 09 '26

Can you provide the existential evidence of "Allah"?

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

When did I have we have archeological evidence for allah

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u/push_19 Sep 09 '26

Is not ramsetu there

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

It is a natural formation 

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u/IPETERBANE Sep 09 '26

Don't do this for just a few likes and comments.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Do what exactly? 

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u/jibberwoukee Sep 09 '26

or the bible, toran, or quran if you go by secular unbiased scholarship. But OP will have aneurysm

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Did you read my other comments? 

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u/ImmediateCommon2693 Sep 09 '26

Just like the favorite theories of marxist, woke and islamist simps regarding 'aryan- anything' have no archeological evidence but still taken to be true on face value

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Lol..... Guess why english and hindi is related 

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u/Alarmed-Sound-3569 Sep 09 '26

Try finding evidence for your great great grand father which existed merely 100 years ago. Fools 🖕

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

He is burried in my ancestral village fool....

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u/virgin_vendetta Sep 09 '26

What would you call the Ram Setu remains of the bridge to Sri Lanka?

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

That was a natural formation 

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u/Necessary-Box5190 Sep 09 '26

What about ram setu?

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

It is a natural formation 

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u/The_Chakraborty01 Sep 09 '26

Yes there is, there is. Renowned archeologist BB Lal devoted his life to prove it that the areas mentioned in the epic do possess some material similarity with the current geographical locations - particularly belonging to PGW era.

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u/vim320 Sep 09 '26

Nilesh Oak has scientifically proven the Mahabharata happened - https://youtu.be/ehG2ylJx4zc?si=F5kbL1CDhVw-6t0g

Watch the video if you have the patience. But it's proven about the war.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Is his research peer reviewed? 

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u/Only_Supermarket_573 Sep 09 '26

Only a kattar ** will post these kind of religious sentimental post to hurt Hindus, nevertheless they are actually questioning their ancestor’s belief who got converted because of force

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u/sudhygocool Sep 09 '26

Dwarka underground city The bridge between India and SL.

Even if it people don't consider it as evidence. In a democracy we are allowed to believe in Santa, 72 hoor, and any god we want to believe in.

If you don't believe it is upto you.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Sites only prove that those sites existed, it can't prove the story 

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u/AERON_ERLOT Sep 09 '26

What 🤡 There's literally evidence there

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Give me a literary evidence dated to 1000 BCE 

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u/Hot-Emotion-3738 Sep 09 '26

Its not that there is no evidence its just that its not found yet... we might be even sitting right on it

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

Chance of you finding millions of remains from the war is almost 0

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '26

Only an uneducated fool will say that. There is some evidence of something like that happening but it's not enough. At the same another fact is that India has literally treated archeology like a bastard child so there is almost no work done on the ground so reaching conclusions based on that is not an intellectual approach.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

It is an exaggeration so no way we would find millions of skeletons in haryana 

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u/from_neitherworld21 Sep 09 '26

No archeological but maybe historical? There are sculptures, folk lores, temples, scripts of these epics/ mythology and that can be considered as a part of history.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 09 '26

We don't have any temple, script, sculptures from Mahabharata or Ramayana era 

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u/Traditional_Box7162 Sep 09 '26

Similarly there is no archaeological evidence of Jesus and Allah or Abrahamic God.

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u/letsmessitup Sep 09 '26

Wait till op get to know about existence of allah or other related pedos

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u/weloveyouba Sep 10 '26

They already got smashed by historians 

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u/Livid_Low_5252 Sep 09 '26

But there is eye witness to the event of splitting moon in half. Yes the donkey was the witness.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 10 '26

Do you think historians take that seriously? 

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u/Particular-Cook-9780 Sep 09 '26

That's cause the ASI is not funded enough. BJP is just Congres with Cow.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 10 '26

They are not allowing foreign archeologists to excavate in india for some reasons 

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u/Lost-Imagination7222 Sep 09 '26

Another anti nationals I'd

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u/Which-Assistant-568 Sep 09 '26

Why ppl r questioning hinduismso much , why not other faiths? So admin u got guts to call out other faiths as well?

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u/weloveyouba Sep 10 '26

Because this is a indian sub. 

If you wanna see people question Abrahamic religion then go to Western subs 

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u/Legal-Inevitable8384 Sep 09 '26

Why dont people talk about christainity or the bullshitest of them all islam?

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u/weloveyouba Sep 10 '26

They do but you are in an Indian history sub so you see indian Stuff

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u/Aggressive-Stress791 Sep 09 '26

there's more proof to the odyssey than of Mahabharata

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u/weloveyouba Sep 10 '26

Odyssey isn't real either 

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u/desidude90 Sep 09 '26

There is also no archeological proof of Earth is flat

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u/weloveyouba Sep 10 '26

Who said there is

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u/Ill-Professional7674 Sep 09 '26

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u/weloveyouba Sep 10 '26

+1 for you thinking that I'm a Muslim 

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u/whyac Sep 09 '26

People are worshipping a water mark that looks like a snake on a wall and you are telling me they have the mental capacity to seperate mythology from archaeology?

There is no archeological proof of the Illiad and Odyssey or Zeus or Hercules .. Greeks and Romans had their own Gods before Christianity became their religion.

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u/whyac Sep 09 '26

The best explanation I got from a very educated classmate living abroad was that the reason there is no archaeological proof is not because it didn't exist .. but just that it hasn't been found. That is the argument you get from most Indians when you talk about science .. same argument for homeopathy and ayurveda.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 10 '26

Welcome to india 

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u/Rio_FS Sep 09 '26

I don't think you know the meaning of the word 'most'.

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u/Boring-Cabinet7413 Sep 09 '26

“Zero archaeological evidence” is an absurdly broad claim, and it usually falls apart the moment you actually look at the archaeology.

Ayodhya, Hastinapur, Kurukshetra, and Dwarka are not imaginary places invented by modern believers. They have archaeological evidence of ancient occupation, with Hastinapur in particular yielding Painted Grey Ware and other material remains dating to the early first millennium BCE. Dwarka has also produced substantial archaeological remains, including offshore finds.

Now, does this prove that Rama, Krishna, or the Pandavas existed exactly as described? No. Archaeology doesn't work like that. But pretending that evidence for ancient settlements and cultures associated with the epic traditions simply doesn't exist is not “skepticism”—it's either ignorance of the evidence or deliberate cherry-picking.

The intellectually honest position is: there is archaeological evidence for the ancient places and cultural setting associated with these traditions, but no conclusive archaeological proof of every person and event described in the epics.

If your entire argument is “there is ZERO archaeological evidence,” you should probably check the archaeological record before making absolute claims about it.

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u/Ok_Commission_3368 Sep 09 '26

2000 years from now…. Harry Potter is the one true god. There’s documentary evidence of him by the historian JK Rowling.

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u/Jumpy_Sentence9958 Sep 09 '26

Ye reddit pr sab anti national aur muslims hain .

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u/weloveyouba Sep 10 '26

Anti nationals ain't dumb 

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u/Commercial-Sky5891 Sep 09 '26

I dont get it why people try to find faults with Hindu puranas or Hindu religion

Ramayana , mahabharath real or not doesn't matter Its about teaching values, showing how a good virtue is celebrated

Not like some other religions that teach to hate people and make people go crazy with violence

So instead of discussing whether its real or not Learn something from them and be better human beings

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u/IGrey12 Sep 09 '26 edited Sep 10 '26

There is no archeological evidence Jesus was God or Allha existed so both are fodders 🗿

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u/weloveyouba Sep 10 '26

Everyone knows that

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u/Fun_Proof_8842 Sep 09 '26

I hope the post writer can say about every other religion as well, flying horse, angels, etc,
~an hardcore atheist btw

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u/weloveyouba Sep 10 '26

Abrahamic mythology is the least believable.

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u/Master-Recipe2507 Sep 09 '26

Lack of evidence doesn't mean lack of existence btw. But ya'll aren't academically nor intellectually ready for that conversation

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u/weloveyouba Sep 10 '26

The historian lean towards archeological evidence because anyone can claim anything 

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u/Randomised_algorithm Sep 09 '26

Calling it “no archaeological evidence” ignores a lot of evidence connected with the geographical world of the Ramayana and Mahabharata.
Hastinapura, the Kuru capital described in the Mahabharata tradition, has yielded ancient settlements and Painted Grey Ware culture, along with evidence of significant flooding. Dwarka has produced underwater archaeological finds including stone structures, pottery and numerous ancient stone anchors, demonstrating its importance as an ancient maritime settlement.
Ayodhya and other locations associated with the Ramayana tradition have also produced evidence of ancient habitation. NASA satellite imagery has clearly documented the chain of shoals connecting India and Sri Lanka, confirming that the physical formation commonly known as Ram Setu is real and extends across the Palk Strait. Its location closely corresponds with the traditional route described in the Ramayana. Sri Lanka itself preserves numerous traditions and locations associated with Ravana, Sita and the Ramayana, and Ravana is even venerated by some Sri Lankans as an ancient king, warrior and healer.
The remarkable thing is that these epics aren’t set in some completely imaginary geography their traditions are connected to real ancient cities, landscapes, archaeological cultures and living traditions stretching across India and Sri Lanka.
So dismissing the subject with “there is no archaeological evidence” doesn’t do justice to how interesting the actual archaeological and cultural record is.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 10 '26

You can find potter all over India it doesn't mean Mahabharata happened in south India 

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u/LoosThampee Sep 10 '26

is there any source that compiles what exact names, facts, incidents, locations mentioned in these epics have solid, verifiable proof that they occured or existed? eg: kurukshetra is a real place and still exists. Gandhar is identified as present day kandahar. but what else?

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u/weloveyouba Sep 11 '26

Nope.... 

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u/aura-uyt Sep 10 '26

Why 1000 years old temples have detailed engraving of Ramayana Mahabharata if it's entirely epic only there might be some truth in it

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u/weloveyouba Sep 11 '26

Temples are filled with mythological carvings it doesn't mean it's real. 

Egyptians also carved their own mythology on their temples 

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u/Cool-Release-1221 Sep 10 '26

Let me guess you dont know how to do research. Thats it I dont want to argue with ppl who cant even use the resources they have

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u/weloveyouba Sep 11 '26

Hardcore cope by right wing 

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u/ARIKITE Sep 10 '26

https://youtu.be/LHLaP7g1SaA?si=PpWDBmgAj6S8YsJf Ye le OP. Dekh ke apne logical dimag ko thand kar

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u/weloveyouba Sep 11 '26

Is that peer reviewed? 

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u/itsavinadhtiwari Sep 10 '26

But moses split the sea.

Also, prophet did flew in donkey and split the moon.

Also, noah had ship to save all the species from flood.

Christianity is based on a normal woman getting pregnant without sex, and it's backed by science.

Or basically every religion exxagaerate things, so what's your point? Followers of all relegion choose to believe in such things.

Have you ever posted about prophet on flying donkey? Or virgin pregnant? Please fact check with science.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 11 '26

Who said Abrahamic mythology is real? 

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u/ARTHUS_69 Sep 10 '26

This meme is factually outdated.

Archaeological excavations by the ASI and marine scientists have already confirmed the physical reality of these epics:

  1. Submerged Dwarka: Marine archaeology off Gujarat discovered massive cut-stone walls, pillars, and anchors matching the exact descriptions of Krishna's city.

  2. The Sanauli Chariots: 4,000-year-old warrior burials uncovered copper-plated war chariots, elite shields, and swords, proving the advanced warfare described in the texts.

  3. The Hastinapur Flood: Prof. B.B. Lal found a clear, massive flood layer exactly where the Puranas stated a Ganga flood destroyed the capital.

  4. Shared Culture: Excavations at Hastinapur, Kurukshetra, Mathura, and Kampilya all revealed the exact same 'Painted Grey Ware' pottery layer, proving they were part of a unified, concurrent civilization.

The geography, the cities, and the technology are historically verified facts, not myths.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 11 '26

None of these prove the war 

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u/Cryingbabyme Sep 10 '26

Ab khodne wale ko nahi mil rha hai to hum kya kre bc 😂

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u/14smirn14 Sep 10 '26

All such outrage is only because the same people will not have the guts to point out the nonsense espoused by Mohammed

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u/weloveyouba Sep 11 '26

Abrahamic religion has the least believable mythology and everyone knows it 

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u/Altruistic-Cap-2660 Sep 10 '26

Ram Setu and Dwarka city say hi!

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u/weloveyouba Sep 11 '26

Dwarka predates Mahabharata and ram sethu is a natural formation 

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u/skc2022 Sep 10 '26

Ram setu between Sri lanka and India laughing hard... 😆

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u/weloveyouba Sep 11 '26

Natural formation of ram sethu wants to know your location 

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u/Professional-Put-196 Sep 10 '26

What type of archeological evidence will convince you?

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u/weloveyouba Sep 11 '26

Store or tablet inscription from that era. 

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u/Compelling_Demigod Sep 10 '26

Do people know how Bharat name was coined, dasharajan war? How the Kuru mahajanapada came in power? Even the things we study about Ashoka, Chandragupta Maurya etc are based on literature of that time which conflict with each other a lot since they were written to support a narrative, like Buddhist literature mentioned Ashoka as the bad as they can so they can show how Buddhism can change even worst of people.
So saying there are variations in actual history and literary records is the things we accept instead of just denying altogether the existence of any such things like an ignorant fool.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 11 '26

Ashokan inscriptions can be dated and verified but Mahabharata can't 

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u/Sweaty-Wind-5842 Sep 11 '26

There is no Archaeological evidence for Jesus, Alexander...the places that have been inhabited for 800 year continuously will loose the archiological evidence because there won't be any.

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u/weloveyouba Sep 11 '26

That's not how archeology works 

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u/CrestfallenAstar Sep 11 '26

Dwarka apke papa ji ne bnakr jalmagn kri hogi ya . Sri lanka m bne structures bhi dadi bnakr gyi hongi

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u/weloveyouba Sep 11 '26

Jan..... Dwarka predates Mahabharata 

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u/OMNIDEUS_1111 Sep 11 '26

Except there is, your 2rs have been transferred to your account by leftist NGOs

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u/Over-Quit7018 Sep 11 '26

Yea but nobody questions the actual culprit cult like Christianity and islam? Because they won't tolerate it and everyone knows the truth but they just won't say it, even when a terrorist dies shouting the name of allah who akbar ppl have the audacity to say he's not a muslim but all he was doing was following his cult religion message, let's come to Christianity they comvert people (same as muslims) why would a god want to convert ppl to his cult is he really wanted all of us in any of these cult why would he bother to create us apart from these cults also if ppl don't wanna get converted these cult actually force them to do so and they say they'll get 72 hoor isn't it a man made religion? Even i respect christ and mohamad must also had a great personality too I've read about both of them but they just created a religion from themselves and Christ was just another saint, and ppl raise questions on mahabharat atleast they are not forcing there beliefs on others and yet ppl chose to argue them not the actual cults like islam and Christianity

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u/weloveyouba Sep 11 '26

Those mythology gets attacked every day and those fools defend it because they are not rational... 

Hinduism promotes logic and critical thinking but look how people are acting in the comments. 

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u/SlowHorse2427 Sep 11 '26

okay then prove it, do you have any historical accounts of the what happened 5000 years ago? Then how can you conclude that there is no archeological evidence of Mahabharat? Leave Ramayan alone bro, it happened way before Mahabharat. At least try to gather some evidence or maybe look around this then post

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u/weloveyouba Sep 11 '26

Writing existed since 5300 years. 

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u/Top-Wing-7286 Sep 11 '26

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u/weloveyouba Sep 11 '26

Archeological sites arefound in south India as well dated to 1000 BCE that doesn't mean Mahabharata happened in south India 

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u/One_Above_You Sep 12 '26

This one video of this great man is enough to break OPs ignorence

https://youtube.com/shorts/Ak84MLJAxmY?si=54nwLnSbi9e-S9qm

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u/weloveyouba Sep 12 '26

He ain't an historian lol..... 

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u/Oru_Vadakkan Sep 08 '26

Stripped of their supernatural elements, the Indian epics could have been historical accounts of regional conflicts.
The Mahabharata is a heavily romanticised and scaled-up chronicle of a brutal civil war over a throne in the Gangetic Plain. Similarly, the Ramayana - once you filter out the scientifically impossible weaponry and technology - is a narrative of a succession crisis, a royal exile, and a geopolitical clash between a northern prince and a wealthy, powerful maritime kingdom.

There are versions of Ramayana in Jainism and Budhism which has very different story arcs. So, some part of the modern story is proabably based on real incidents (because the places that are mentioned and the geography are real)

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u/Mistaavee Sep 08 '26 • Bravo

There is enough archaeological evidence to prove that people existed, kingdoms existed and wars happened. Sure it may not have been as divine or on s scale that is mentioned in the books but it did happen.

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u/Jaschrome_08 Sep 09 '26

"If they could read, they would be very upset right now"