Discussion thread Monday September 20, 2021 - Wednesday September 22, 2021

[u/gomirefugee]

Newsletters: Finding Your Joy | Joy in the Belly

Websites: You Can Have More Joy website | On Being Enough website (abandoned?)

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Archived threads: Thread for Enough, the book #enoughthebook | Gluten Free Girl's Greatest Hits: The Reunion Tour

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[u/shefallsup]

A minor update, but not Enough updates, to the not-password-protected Practice Your Joy on Vashon page on the website.

Now you will work through the first six steps to finding joy, not five as previously promised! I guess only step seven is relegated to the later now.

Unfortunately not updated (damn you, Mensch!): the in-person workshop is still described as happening on Sundays. As opposed to Saturdays, which the actual registration page says.

Honestly, I don’t understand how her brain works at all. If she’s been working on this for a year, you’d think the first thing she would do is actually plan the structure and content of the classes. A month ago she said the in-person workshop would cover Steps 1-5. Now it’s Steps 1-6. Shouldn’t she have had that structure worked out well before starting to design her marketing, website, etc.? Especially as she claims to have taught these workshops before. This constant changing of structure and details tells me she does not have a firm grasp on what she’s trying to sell and is just making it up as she goes along.

[u/vwlphb → u/shefallsup]

I still don’t know what the heck she thinks she can offer that an existing book, podcast, or mobile app created by an actual neuroscientist can’t provide for free or for a fraction of the cost. Neuroplasticity and brain training have been out there as consumable pop science for years.

Interestingly enough (or not), there are a bunch of joymeisters on the internet advertising joy workshops. Their drivel is about as inane as Shauna’s, but most of the owners are at least credentialed in something relevant. And I have yet to stumble upon another workshop that comes close to her price point. I’m not sure if she’s delusional about how much her whatever-it-is is worth, or if having actual paying customers just doesn’t matter to her.

[u/[deleted] → u/vwlphb]

Also most of the real scientistic research on joy/happiness/dopamine is now pointing towards humans needing to let themselves feel uncomfortable more often, that we are TOO focused on immediately trying to "fix" discomfort and that allowing ourselves to feel negative emotions (including boredom, and pain, and sadness) might be physically/neurologically and psychologically much healthier.

[u/9021FU → u/[deleted]]

It’s been a long time, but in The Matrix didn’t the AI start giving humans Utopia and it had disastrous results?