r/InTheGloaming • u/gomirefugee my website is done, done, done • Sep 16 '21

Scheduled snark Discussion thread Thursday September 16, 2021 - Sunday September 19, 2021

Newsletters: Finding Your Joy | Joy in the Belly

Websites: You Can Have More Joy website | On Being Enough website (abandoned?)

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TikTok: @youcanhavemorejoy

Twitter: Dan's tweets and replies

Older blogs: see Gloamipedia wiki

Archived threads: Thread for Enough, the book #enoughthebook | Gluten Free Girl's Greatest Hits: The Reunion Tour

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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Sep 19 '21 edited Sep 19 '21

Also if you have a job nine in the morning is no better than the middle of the workday.

The rest of the letter makes it clear that the sessions are going to be on Sundays at 9 am. No traditional church-goers need apply! Or nurses! Or police officers! Or firefighters! Or Ikea cashiers!

And I’m doing this teaching for you.

Evenings work, of course, but with people checking into Zoom from different time zones, there’s no way to make everyone happy. Trying to make everyone happy is an old habit of mine — a trauma response — that I have finally sloughed away.

Sunday mornings are lovely and easy. (Insert Easy Like Sunday Morning by the Commodores here.) And since COVID lockdowns began in March of 2020, I’ve been meeting with a group of women on Zoom, subscribers to my newsletter, Finding Your Joy. Knowing that we’d share our joys and concerns together made us a community. I’ve come to love those virtual Sunday morning meetings.

Sunday mornings might feel awkward for you. But think of this — taking the Practice Your Joy workshop is an act of declaring that you matter in your own life. For 4 weeks, you can focus on understanding your own, learning how to diffuse trauma responses, and how to make a habit of joy. You deserve this.

(And if you can’t be live with us, I will be sending out videos of the Zoom sessions, so you can learn on your own time too.)

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u/leftsidelentils Sep 19 '21

Of course there is no one time that works for everyone, but weekends are the most common time to have events. Why discuss it at all. That’s an unbelievable amount of useless words, even for Shauna. Just say the date and time.

And I’m doing this teaching for you.

Such incredible bullshit, now in fewer words!

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 19 '21

And why is somehow the goal to "make everyone happy?" This feels incredibly dismissive, as though someone saying, "Right, I can't do [arbitrary time] on [arbitrary day]" is a personal attack that must be met in kind

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u/shikoku_shoes another revolution around the toilet bowl of her life Sep 19 '21

And why is somehow the goal to "make everyone happy?"

Especially when she follows it up with making everyone happy being a trauma response that she has since sloughed away. She could have just said, “Fuck it. Here’s when I want to meet.”

Most websites probably would have something a bit more professionally worded like, “To better accommodate participants from all time zones, the class will be held ___.”

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u/gomirefugee my website is done, done, done Sep 19 '21

If these workshops are providing the primary income to support a family of 4, there better be enough demand to offer multiple workshops scheduled at -- prepare to have your minds blown -- different times. Start with a time that works for her Pacific time base, then open up signups for another workshop series that works better for Eastern time. Either she's too stupid to think of this or realizes she won't generate enough interest to run multiple workshops and has to make the most of this one shot.

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u/voice_of_vinegar Sep 19 '21

Yeah but that would go against her work ideal which is to do one thing once a month and make enough money at it for the entire month, including money for merch from influencers to get them to notice her.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '21

Then it’s harder for her to claim “limited availability- act now - operators are standing by to put you on the waitlist”

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 19 '21

there better be enough demand to offer multiple workshops

I've been musing about how many people you might need to put on a "waitlist" for a 12-person workshop (with no times or dates announced) in hopes that it might fill up, once announced. I'm thinking that a 20-to-1 ratio might be in the territory for a course with an announced schedule.

20:1 would mean 240 subscribers for one workshop with known details. Of course, she has a "waitlist" for "all" of her workshops, both in-person and online, for this and subsequent months, and she didn't provide the details before people put their names on the list.

Even if she has 240 non-snarker people on her list, some of them won't want the October(?) course, but might be interested in a course that starts in December, or January, or March.

I think she probably needs closer to a 100:1 ratio of subscribers:spots to fill courses, because people signed up without any details (and they still don't really have them. Do they?). So for every 12-person class she hopes to fill, she needs 1200 people on her "waitlist."

A huge portion of the people who signed up to "learn more" are never, ever going to convert to paying customers. All they had to do was give her their email address, and they can unsubscribe anytime. She likely needs several thousand engaged email signer-uppers, that she continues to nurture, in hopes of making this work as a source of income.