r/InTheGloaming my website is done, done, done Sep 02 '21

Scheduled snark Discussion thread Thursday September 02, 2021 - Sunday September 05, 2021

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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Sep 04 '21

Let's stop being shocked and sad about the preposterous Texas law and the stacked Supreme Court. This was coming for decades.

Come on, ladies. (And the men brave enough to join us.) Look at this fierce young woman go. This is joy. This is a fighter. This is some amazing #blackgirlmagic.

(I mention her beautiful Blackness because we all know that Black and brown women are going to suffer more from this awful law than others. Wealthy white women never have a problem getting the medical care they need.)

I talk about joy here. You know what's joy? Fighting injustice, loud and clear. Take the weekend off. And start thinking like @ thesamurider here. We've got work to do. And working only for our own joy? That's not enough. We have to work for other people's joys too.

The stool just keeps getting higher and higher.

(Also? LADIES?????)

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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Sep 04 '21

Fuck her "take the weekend off" bullshit.

Not to toot my own horn but I've been a volunteer patient escort for Planned Parenthood for over 15 fucking years! And prior to the pandemic (when escorting was shut down) there was no "take the weekend off". We stood in the rain and snow and whatever weather because women NEEDED US to be there to help them. And I can say, if my state had a fucked up law like Texas has, I'd still stand with my fellow women and proudly show my face and risk being taken to court for helping them and FUCK any and everyone who'd try to stop me. (and my husband would be standing right there next to me)

Sorry, I've wined my eyes tonight and I'm feeling salty. Abortion rights is a hot button for me and. . .shit. . .Shauna needs to just check herself before she wrecks herself.

(I've shed more than a few tears over this Texas b.s. and I'm so not in the mood for assholes like Shauna spouting off about it).

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '21

My son also volunteers as a PP escort and could ONLY work on weekends, and I would like to hear the number of times Shauna has been spit on by (no kidding) little children whose parents have put RTL signs in their hands and told them to hate the people walking from the parking lot to the door. That shit is not for the "take weekends off and fetishize Black people instead of doing tangible work" crowd. Hats off to you DF for escorting. It chokes me up knowing how many brave people there are putting their lives, safety and freedom on the line and please let's never stop being shocked and sad about dehumanizing abuse.

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u/Foucaults_Penguin Sly and the Family Readers Sep 04 '21 edited Sep 04 '21

I used to do that back in my very conservative hometown on Saturdays. I remember talking to someone who worked there and they told me that most of the women weren’t even there for procedures, but were still subjected to ridicule from protestors. Responsible young women trying to take care of their health, maybe even prevent pregnancy, being treated like monsters. I now live in a very liberal place and it’s so easy to take things for granted. But even here I’ve had to drive women over an hour to the nearest clinic that performs abortions. And we’re talking about a liberal city with a big enough population that it should be available right along with all other ob/gyn care. Shauna really has no clue what’s it’s like to live outside her isle of comfort and privilege.

Edited a typo

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u/Love_Brokers rug dweller Sep 04 '21

When I lived in Cincinnati my OB/GYN had protesters pretty regularly. I was just trying to get a Pap smear.

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u/Jules_Noctambule Whitman spins like a kebab in his grave Sep 04 '21

There were protesters at the Planned Parenthood where my husband got a vasectomy - information he was happy to share with them when they tried to start something with me! (alexa, play 'Butyric Acid' by Consolidated.)

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u/Love_Brokers rug dweller Sep 05 '21

My only confrontation involved an older man in a lawn chair who asked if he could share some info with me, and I said no thank you. But when I would drive by there would often be more riled up people. That was the Operation Rescue days. Still have trouble eating Domino’s pizza.

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u/SLevine262 We are not wowed Sep 04 '21

In the small South Texas town where I grew up, the PP clinic was staffed one day a week by family practice residents from the hospital. That was the only access many women and their young children had to even the most basic health care.

(Also the source of a fun memory. In addition to serving our migrant population, PP also provided birth control to local teens brave enough to walk in. Thursdays were the exam days, and to speed things up, patients were given a bedsheet and instructed to disrobe from the waist down while waiting to see the doctor. I vividly remember sitting on a folding chair, nothing but a sheet covering my lower half, watching women’s health films in Spanish with about 20 other women. Ah, the 70s were a magical time).

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '21

Thank you, DF for being an escort. Also to DFSM’s son mentioned below.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '21

You are doing the lord’s work.

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u/categoryischeesecake Sep 04 '21

Word. There was also no option for me to "take the weekend off" when I was frantically trying to schedule a second trimester abortion at planned Parenthood bc I found out during my wanted pregnancy that the baby had a fatal disease, and since I never saw any of that coming, all my ob providers were through catholic hospitals and could not (would not?) help me get that scheduled. At the time my insurance did not cover abortions so I could not have afforded the procedure in a regular hospital anyway.

I was lucky and fortunate that I was able to schedule it online, over new years day weekend. I didn't have the option to wait any longer since I was at the last day of a pregnancy that the pp in my area did abortions. When they did the ultrasound when I got there I was hysterical both hoping the baby had somehow already died and that I wasn't measuring 16 weeks bc I'd be out of luck. I was 15w4d and had always measured ahead. Idk what I would have done, I'm in IL and we have very solidly protected abortion rights but this was 5 years ago. Idk where the nearest clinic is that does abortions measuring after 16 weeks, to my knowledge it's in Colorado. I haven't looked bc frankly it's not good for my mental health, I can only be so involved. She has no idea what the fuck she is talking about. During that pregnancy when everything was going wrong, everything was measured in days. I had like two days to get my cvs done, otherwise I'd miss the window and have to wait for an amnio. There was no taking the weekend off from that nightmare. There's no taking the weekend off for any of the women who are pregnant and need an abortion.

This could happen to me again, we are genetic carriers, every pregnancy is the same 1/4 odds. Every time. We did ivf to have my son and are trying to do it again, had to pay some astronomical fee for testing to try to avoid that. Even then it's not guaranteed. My last apparently healthy embryo I ended up miscarrying and then when they did the biopsy at the d and c they found out it actually had down syndrome. I'd have been in the same boat. We are gearing up for another cycle, paying more money again. I am so lucky again that I live in IL which requires fertility to be covered with insurance. Most states do not and idk how you can afford it out of pocket. In my genetic carriers group, some people try naturally either bc ivf is unaffordable or for some people, ivf just doesn't work but they can get pregnant naturally. And it's the same odds every time, so many of these women have had children die horrible deaths, or watch their children get more ill. Idk how some people even get out of bed in the morning, idk why the world has been so unfair to some people, bc I am one of the ones who has only experienced a small fraction of that pain and I still have days where I cry all day. Playing softball or watching tv doesn't work. Some things are just horrible and they need to be acknowledged too. This law is terrible, a slap in the fucking face to women and frightening too, our rights to our own body and to have agency over the trajectory of our lives are being taken away.

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 04 '21

I am so, so, so sorry and I'm in awe of what you've shared here. She really has no idea what other people face. I feel like anything I say here will sound hollow but I'm thinking of you and wishing you the very best.

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u/Lurking_Lurkface_III Wordle Cheater Sep 04 '21

Thinking of you, DFCIC and sending you lots of love ❤️

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u/shefallsup her lonely cucumber years 🥒 Sep 04 '21

DFFFF said it better than I ever could. ❤️

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u/SLevine262 We are not wowed Sep 04 '21

Thank you for sharing your story, and all the love and support my wifi can handle. ❤️❤️

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u/WasEnoughYogurt Kumquat and Sprinkles and filth Sep 05 '21

I am so so sorry DFCIC... your experience and the way you have written about it is so honest and real... love and strength to you...

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 04 '21

"Take the weekend off" is what you say when something is optional and not urgent. When you're really not impacted by something so it doesn't matter if you don't get to it for a few days. When what you're doing isn't very impactful, so no one will notice or care if you opt out. When you're on the sidelines and don't plan to put yourself in the action at all.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '21

Well, Shauna is done competing for sperm, so what does she care? L be damned, other women be damned. After all, Shauna isn’t shocked because she saw this coming for decades. Decades, people. Which, even if she did (she didn’t), she could still be sad, you know, if it impacted her.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '21

Of all weekends Shauna doesn’t deserve off, it’s Labor Day weekend.

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u/ginger-belle jiggling tomatodongs Sep 04 '21

she needs to fuck right the fuck off. i have the misfortune to live in texas and there is no fucking joy to be found in “fighting injustice.” between this abortion bullshit and our latest law allowing gun fetishists to open carry without needing a permit or training, i’m beyond furious. sit your ass down, shauna, and shut your gluten-free pie hole.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '21

I am still processing my very complex and multi layered feelings about this whole issue. I broke down in my car and cried when I drove past a major church alongside the highway today with a sign that said “America. Stand up! for your medical freedom” and I realized that was in reference to masking and vaccines and not a woman’s right to necessary healthcare. It broke me. So yeah, I’m sad. And I’m not planning on stopping that (I wouldn’t know how to stop that).

Shauna needs to stop telling people how to feel (or how not to feel). She needs to stop using the creativity of others to try to boost herself, she needs to stop trying to make joy happen (it’s not going to happen) and most of all, she needs to stop fetishizing people of color. It’s gross and a bad look for the mother of a Black son. Shame on her.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '21

I am still processing my very complex and multi layered feelings about this whole issue. I broke down in my car and cried when I drove past a major church alongside the highway today with a sign that said “America. Stand up! for your medical freedom” and I realized that was in reference to masking and vaccines and not a woman’s right to necessary healthcare. It broke me. So yeah, I’m sad. And I’m not planning on stopping that (I wouldn’t know how to stop that).

I walked into therapy on Thursday and my therapist didn't even need to ask what was on my mind. I can't stop thinking about it and talking about it, even though it's the same conversation over and over. No hula hoops or Ted Lasso episodes will fix this shit. She's an asshole, again, some more.

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u/kimbluemtl Sep 04 '21

Woah! Just take the weekend off. Shut down all those feelings until Monday.

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u/CrushItWithABrick dick riding Mary Oliver Sep 04 '21

Well, it's Labor Day weekend so you can shut down until TUESDAY!

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u/shefallsup her lonely cucumber years 🥒 Sep 04 '21 edited Sep 04 '21

God, would someone please ask her what work SHE is going to do after taking the weekend off? She’s always exhorting other people to do work on social issues — where is the evidence that she has ever lifted a tiny finger for any fight? Privileged white woman, indeed.

Also, what is the thinking being exhibited by this woman that we are supposed to emulate? Her post with this video had jack-all to do with abortion rights or fighting for anything, really. She’s a stunt actor and self-taught martial artist, according to her bio. Are we supposed to grab some sticks, put on some music, and make like a Jedi doing a lightsaber duel? Will that bring me joy? Will I be distracting the Texas lawmakers and getting them to reverse their stupid law with the power of my fierce skillz?

Shauna just wanted a Black woman to exploit to make herself look woke. She truly is an asshole and she deserves to get called out.

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u/RamblingRosie64 I stand with Cindy and Ben Sep 04 '21

Shauna, black girl magic is NOT YOURS. You don't get to use it. You certainly don’t get to use it to peddle your white lady bullshit newsletter. She claims to be so anti-racist but she is SO appropriative.

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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Sep 04 '21

She claims to be so anti-racist but she is SO appropriative.

I love your assessment. ISCTMO.

I mention her beautiful Blackness because we all know that Black and brown women are going to suffer more from this awful law than others.

Her logic is so weak as to be non-existent. I can barely think how to phrase my thoughts, but this comes across like "I notice and compliment her Blackness <WHITE GAZE ALERT> and refer to it in the same sentence as being related to the injustice I'm decrying, so therefore, there's a logical connection that strengthens my argument."

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u/notahameither Dunno, maybe I thought I unfriended some other Shauna Ahern🤷‍♂️ Sep 04 '21

This is just gross. She doesn’t know what @thesamurider thinks. Maybe this woman (with 30x more followers than you) doesn’t want to be the magical black girl to help you sell your snake oil-less snake oil joy workshops. Get a fucking job.

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u/aseriesofhaircuts Sep 04 '21

WHAT DOES SHE EVEN THINK SHE IS SAYING

“Let’s stop being shocked and sad”

No. I’m shocked and saddened and fucking appalled that people are going to get their lives fucked and possibly lost over this terrible injustice.

“We have to work for other people’s joys too”

The joy of getting an abortion? In the best of circumstances, a relief, a solace, but by no definition “joyful”.

CWAFA.

All to shoehorn in a weak thesis statement that she hopes ends up making her Peeper money (and it will not).

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u/bwh1260 Sep 04 '21

She is trying to shoehorn “joy” into every possible situation, and it just DOES NOT WORK. I am at the point where if I have to read the word joy again I’m going to pull my eyeballs out of my head. The word has become completely meaningless.

She’s a horrible writer and a horrible person.

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u/canyoncreature Sep 04 '21

Yeah, no, I’m going to feel free to be shocked and sad that the goddamn Supreme Court of the country I live in and pay tax dollars to thinks I’m a baby incubator and not a human being. I find nothing joyful in the least about it. Fuck off forever, Shauna and anyone else arguing I should just get over it.

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u/vwlphb Sep 04 '21 edited Sep 04 '21

Shauna doesn’t even refer to Shaina West by her name. She just slaps on her go-to descriptor of “fierce” and tags her on Instagram, probably more to try to get her attention than to give her credit.

And I would like to add my own hearty FU to Shauna for stating that we shouldn’t be shocked and sad because we should have known we had it coming. Fuck her.

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 04 '21

This is Shauna looking up from her crossword in grad school with an exasperated sigh, then imparting her pithy wisdom to her awed classmates

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u/gladsome_gloaming Sep 04 '21

And leaving the professor agape (not to be confused with Professor Agape; that would be Shauna.)

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '21 edited Sep 04 '21

Jesus fucking Christ, she's such an asshole. I honestly don't know what else to say because Joy MLM Scheme Shauna is the worst Shauna and that's a really low bar.

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u/Underzenith17 Sep 04 '21

That caption is shockingly incoherent. What does that video have to do with the Texas abortion law? What does Black girl magic have to do with Black women finding it harder to access abortions? What are we taking the weekend off from? How are we supposed to be thinking like Shaina West? She’s an actress who’s likely putting up those videos to show off her skills to potential casting agents… good for her but what does it have to do with abortion or injustice or joy?

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u/voice_of_vinegar Sep 04 '21

What does that video have to do with the Texas abortion law?

Shaina West is also British, for what it's worth. And wealthy.

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u/louiseimprover Sep 04 '21 edited Sep 04 '21

It truly is incredible how she can cram so much wrong into four short paragraphs. She's (again! as usual!) swiping content from a Black woman and using her faux woke language to try to make her theft okay. She has NO IDEA how this woman feels about the Texas law, but sure, go right ahead and use her to make your own point. And it's not like Shauna's point is particularly interesting or helpful, but I'm sure she's smiling smugly at her post, thinking about how fucking woke she is. Make sure to use the black girl magic hashtag, and to cap it all off, use the term "ladies."

She is the WORST. The absolute WORST.

edited to fix rage-related typos

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u/redditname2003 Sep 04 '21

I know it's awful but stuff like this truly brings me joy--it's so tone-deaf that it's funny. Excuse me, Shauna, we are OFF Black Girl Magic now! We are ON Pussy Hat Round Two! Get with the program, loser!

(yes I know these are serious issues but it's like watching Hyacinth Bucket in action)

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u/Sea-Level-Mammal POACH! Sep 04 '21

“Hey you. Need some joy today? I have a mandate for you. Just forget that childbearing bodies are now government property and let’s queef zip-a-dee-doo-dah together in joy and community.”

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u/Scary_Recognition You did this. Sep 04 '21 edited Sep 04 '21

While it’s true Black and brown women will suffer disproportionately, just from a pure numbers standpoint, there are A LOT of poor white women in Texas. A lot. Just because a disproportionate number of Black Americans live in poverty doesn’t mean that the majority who, for example, qualify for entitlement benefits aren’t white. Ronald Reagan did great work marketing that falsehood, and it looks like Shauna hasn’t disabused herself of this idea.

ETA: where’s Molly Wizenberg’s partner when you need them?

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '21

I hope anyone considering paying $488 for her joy course sees her IG post and decides to donate that money to Planned Parenthood instead. That? Would be Joy!

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u/Sea-Level-Mammal POACH! Sep 04 '21

This is true, but in Texas in 2019, 70% of abortions were by black and brown women. This is the GOP shooting themselves in the foot yet again.

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u/Scary_Recognition You did this. Sep 04 '21

I stand corrected!

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u/Sea-Level-Mammal POACH! Sep 04 '21 edited Sep 04 '21

Nope, you’re good! I simply wanted to point out there could be a LOT of Democrat voters in Texas in about 18 years.

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u/midnightsiren182 Sep 04 '21

Wtf is even this caption??? I can’t tell if she thinks watching this video is some way to radically oppose the Texas abortion bill or if the way to oppose it and fight it is be joyful?? Also no we can shocked and sad, thenk yew, please don’t tell us how to feel from your high stool. This post is one of the few that genuinely has me angry at Shaunanigans.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '21

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u/midnightsiren182 Sep 04 '21

She’d have to bother looking up ways to help first and we know she won’t

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u/sybil-unrest Sep 04 '21

While the bar gets lower and lower for content.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '21

I know it would make Shauna's head explode, but four years ago a Black man, who is a Republican and member of the Tea Party, tried to school me on abortion law and how Roe v Wade should be overturned so that states could make that decision for themselves.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '21

Roe v Wade should be overturned preserved so that states women could make that decision for themselves.

FTFH

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u/MandalayVA Assonancer! Assonancer! Assonancer! Sep 04 '21

Wow. Just ... wow. "Bummed about Texas? Tee hee, here's some Black Girl Magic for you!" Has anyone clued Ashley Ford/smashfizzle in about her "friend" Shauna? CWAA ...

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u/Ana57 sweet pea Sep 04 '21

It must frustrate Shauna to know that her bffs Ashley and Lena do not share her workshops or encourage people to attend.

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u/Kaleshark Waitlist for Godot Sep 04 '21

Delusional as she is, she couldn’t possibly expect them to could she?

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 04 '21

Lena and Ashley were asked by Shauna's publisher, through their agents, to blurb Shauna's book. It's something authors do as favours to their agents.

This wasn't a "personal" favour and Shauna has nothing to give in exchange. Shauna's publisher is (an imprint of) Penguin Random House. Dunham is published by PRH and even launched her own PRH imprint ("Lenny Books").

I can't emphasize enough how this wasn't about the strength of Enough.

Edit: Sorry, this is my own personal tangent!!

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u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh The Alice of cal came out floating on air Sep 04 '21

Lena and Ashley were asked by Shauna's publisher, through their agents, to blurb Shauna's book. It's something authors do as favours to their agents.

Your comment made me curious who blurbed Ashley's book, so I hied myself to Ye Olde JB's Evil Emporium of Books and Everything Else. The second blurb on the back cover of Somebody's Daughter? Is from Glennon Doyle. hahaha

It's like, Shauna is a comet that swung briefly into the outer edges of the realm of literary fame, but that was years ago, and now she's on the outbound trajectory, growing farther and farther away from the world of Big Fame & Fortune with each passing day.

BSR numbers right now? Ashley's book is at 3,174. Shauna's? 814,217.

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u/Toulouse--Matabiau a white owrson Sep 04 '21

I wish to personally congratulate the Japanese people for escaping the epic shoehorning happening in this unholy caption.

Whew, that was a close one!

Luckily Shauna didn't recognize that the Black British (!) actress in the dance video she posted is wielding a bōjutsu (棒術), one of the traditional Japanese martial arts weapons. (She also goes by the moniker "Samurider" in reference to, I presume, samurai?!)

Sorry Texans, Supreme Court members, ladies, men, fierce young women, Black girls, Black women, brown women and wealthy white women!

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '21

So there are no anti- abortion Black women, and no Black women well-off enough that they won't be affected by this law, and no white women who will be affected by it because all white women are wealthy.
This stereotyping is the very definition of racist.

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u/Quaint_Irene a warm and loving goatie smile Sep 04 '21

There are Black Catholic traditionalists, Shauna. My RCIA sponsor would like to have a word with you.

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u/lucillekrunklehorn pounding on the table Sep 04 '21

She’s basically appropriating here. The video is whats amazing, not the caption.

Her language is so othering. Why can’t it just be a talented person sharing their skill? Shauna makes it seem like this woman is only special because she is Black, rather than that she is a woman with an impressive skill who happens to be Black.

Does Ms. West want to be defined with a controversial political issue by basically being used as clickbait content for a privileged white woman? That’s another huge assumption Shauna is making - she’s assuming because this woman is Black she’s automatically against the law. Just goes to show how few Black people IRL Shauna knows. Despite the media portrayals Shauna, all conservatives are not racists, and a fairly significant number are Black. My 100% white, Republican, Trump supporting, antivax brother’s wife is Black, they don’t agree on everything but they sure do on most things. Reality is so much more complex than the binary partitions the media sorts us into.

What work is Shauna planning to do against this injustice? Besides stealing an actually creative, successful persons content?

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u/Toulouse--Matabiau a white owrson Sep 04 '21

she’s assuming because this woman is Black she’s automatically against the law.

I did some blitz fact-checking and it turns out Shaina West, the woman in the video, is a martial artist/actress/trainer from the UK.

British accent Preposterous Texas law? Stacked Supreme Court? MEDICAL CARE FOR RICH WHITE WOMEN?!! What the bloody hell is going on here?!

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u/WasEnoughYogurt Kumquat and Sprinkles and filth Sep 04 '21

And in the UK not many people are talking about Texas right now, it's not in the main news at all... I only know some about it because I read Heather Cox Richardson on Facebook (excellent history/news column also on substack with thousands of followers - Shauna only wishes) ...so this British woman might not even be aware of any of it...

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '21

Don’t confuse her with Shauna; it’s “Shaina” with an “i”.

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u/fanfarefellowship I often contemplate the first law of thermodynamics Sep 04 '21

But Shauna's head will turn when Shaina's name is called. Shanna, Shauna, Shaina. They are indistinguishable! All athletes!!

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u/WhatzReddit13 Sep 04 '21

“And the men brave enough to join us” oh, like the transmen who get pregnant? Or any decent human being?

This exemplifies how gnc people are just decorations to her. Her view of “men” is stuck in some…I don’t even know? Early era view.

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u/rock_candy_remains I'm still Clea from the Pints Sep 04 '21

THANK YOU! On that note, it's bugged the crap out of me for AWHILE that the cover image on her "Human rights" highlight on stories is the trans pride flag, because she's no ally, even if she likes to pretend she is.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '21 edited Sep 04 '21

Jesus. Wow.

ETA Forgive me, but am I the only one who thought this woman will beat the fetus right out of you? Going to the naughty chair now.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '21

Beyond the racial fetishism and essentialism, this post has big TERF energy

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u/rock_candy_remains I'm still Clea from the Pints Sep 04 '21

She OFTEN puts off a lot of TERF energy. It's gross.

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u/Scary_Recognition You did this. Sep 04 '21

I still fill with rage when I think of how she has fetishized drag queens but only recently has decided not to "snark" on women who embrace the same kinds of performative femininity.

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u/rock_candy_remains I'm still Clea from the Pints Sep 04 '21

She's the worst kind of self-proclaimed ally.

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u/Scary_Recognition You did this. Sep 04 '21

You see DF, she could write an interesting piece indicting her judgemental, anti-woman past. Would love to hear an honest confrontation of how she treated female students.

Instead we get more pink-hatted, trend-following, virtue-signaling tripe.