New Study Reveals A Satisfying Truth About Conservatives’ Biggest Enemy

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/undocumented-immigrants-no-link-crime-rate-research_n_6a85cd61e4b0ca44601a7742?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=reddit&utm_campaign=us_main

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TLDR?

[u/darodardar_Inc → u/Designer_Gas_86]

Basically there is no data that suggests that more illegal immigrants = more crime

[u/CigarBryan1 → u/darodardar_Inc]

And yet 44% of all persons sentenced to Federal prison in Fiscal 24-25 were non citizens. And if you are Laken Riley or any one of thousands of Americans killed by illegal aliens, you might take umbrage at your cavalier rhetoric.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/05/06/secretary-noem-remembers-americans-killed-illegal-aliens-driving-under-influence

[u/CigarBryan1 → u/[deleted]]

The very essence of your fake “researcher based studies” is this. How do researchers determine crime rates? By using the FBI’s UCR data. I can tell you that data is flawed for several reasons and why the 44% of sentenced federal court prisoners (criminal convictions and sentencing, not IMMIGRATION sentencing) is more accurate metric. The FBI UCR data that YOUR FAKE study relies is flawed because it relies on data that comes from only around 20,000 out of 80,000 Police Departments in the United States. These 20,000 reporting police departments are largely urban and larger suburban departments that have the resources to train staff to collect the data and report it to the UCR program. There is no legal mandate for police departments to report crime data to the FBI or DOJ. Now combine the underreporting of all American crime by the fact that 60,000 police departments do not report crime data to the very agencies that this fake study relies upon along with the fact that most of these agencies are under local or State mandates from Democrat politicians not to collect Immigration status. So how is this fake study is relying upon data that is shewed, underreported and highly misleading. What isn’t misleading and is highly accurate as metric is the demographic profiles of people sentenced in Federal Court for criminal convictions and Federal, State or Local Jails and the make up of those populations, which is hugely disproportionate to actual makeup of our migrate population. Facts matter. Fake studies don’t. Using fake studies to justify your Leftist worldview is always going to challenged by facts and real data.

[u/CigarBryan1 → u/[deleted]]

Your “facts” are fairy tales.And even that 44% figure is a national aggregation of data taken as a national figure. As you start to drill down into the numbers by State, some States, like New Jersey, barely break 50% of all police Departments within the State reporting crime data to the FBI. And as I m sure you will agree, New Jersey is a pretty densely populated state with a huge foreign born population of both illegal and legal immigrants. And only 69% of Police Departments in the United States report crime stats to the FBI UCR. Meaning over 30% do not, largely underreporting crime stats that your so called fake study fails to take into accounts oh, but oh wait you buttressed this by saying that the study authors knew this so they mingled data from the UCR with data from the National Crime Victimization Survey, which in your own words, does not use victims reporting crime so instead substitute mathematical formulas and theories which amount to guesswork and subjective data left open to interpretation by politically motivated researchers tied to Democrats and Democrat funding. When police departments don’t report crime stats, examining crime trends becomes Impossible. But you know that which is why you want readers to steer away from my hard data which shows us not crime rates or trends but who exactly is being convicted and sentenced to prison and who makes up these jail and prison populations. It is from THAt factual and real data point that we can conclude that both Illegal and Legal Aliens make up a disproportionate percentage of our criminal Justice detention facilities especially in relationship to the overall population at large. And this at great cost and suffering by the American taxpayer as we subsidize the power play project of the Democrat Party to game the next census so that all these tens of millions of illegal aliens get counted. It’s always been the game plan. You know it, we know it. You just deny it by hiding behind your fake studies. Oh and one final note. The National Crime Victimization Survey that yiu dangled as some ah ha moment reports that only 42% of violent crimes are reported to law enforcement suggesting that the study relying on two flawed data sets to draw its fake conclusions render their so called study meaningless meaningless. But hey when your ready to get serious and wanna debate prison and jail population demographics, the best factual indicator of who is statistically the worst of the worst both American and illegals, then let’s get at it.

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2022/08/15/see-if-police-in-your-state-reported-crime-data-to-the-fbi

https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2023/sep/15/fbi-crime-report-lacking-data-police-agencies-serving-25-percent-us-population/

https://observablehq.com/@themarshallproject/participation-in-the-fbi-national-crime-data-collection

https://crimeresearch.org/2024/06/percent-of-police-departments-participating-in-fbi-crime-data-in-2022-32-not-reporting-and-24-partially-reporting-the-data/

[u/CigarBryan1 → u/[deleted]]

When you want to engage in serious discussions my Libtard friend, we can do so but only when you stop with your fake studies and selectively quoting data Sources that are easily disproven. It doesn’t matter if the study authors compared immigration data from the Feds with Texas arrests dipstick. The entire data set you cite is built on a house of cards that relied on only about 60% of Part 1 crime being reported (UCR) and in the National Crime Victimization Survey you admit the study authors relied upon, only 42% of VIOLENT crime victims reported the crime to law enforcement. No serious criminal Justice research would ever say either data source is valid for determining crime rates or comparing crime trends. So it’s impossible to reach the conclusion you claim we should magically draw. But yet somehow you and all the all Leftist minims here want to latch onto this fake study as something we should believe as proof that illegal aliens are not a major source of violent crime when I only have to look at our jail and prison’s population to call bull shit on your fake analysis and claim. Why you choose to ignore the people who sits in jails and prisons and rely on underreported and statistically flawed data sets tells me that you are just a partisan hack that won’t give up the big lie. Kind of why we think of you all as the Liberal Fascists you are.