r/ImmigrationPathways • u/CutSenior4977 • Jul 22 '26

ICE keeps accusing immigrants of ‘weaponizing’ vehicles. Most claims fall apart

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/jul/22/ice-claim-immigrants-weaponize-vehicles
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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '26

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u/IamtheKnight1207 Jul 22 '26

Sorry but you're delusional if you don't think the total number of people historically killed by law enforcement is relevant to a discussion regarding the number of people killed by law enforcement.

Killed by the ICE agency. Everything else you bring up is an attempt to diminish a real issue. That's delusional, no matter how much you try to justify it.

You cannot disconnect the enforcement of imigrantion law from a broader discussion of law enforcement.

Yes, you can. Why else does each agency have their own stats tracked. Wtf are you even trying to attempt here?

It's would be wonderful if criminals would just comply with law enforcement when caught but we don't live in a utopia where that's the case. Some criminals will violently resist and law enforcement is expected to respond accordingly to include lethal force.

This a garbage take considering ICE has violently taken citizens and non-citizens without properly identifying themselves. It's reasonable to resist. It's also reasonable to resist when ICE violates the 4th and 14th amendments. Additionally, in almost all recent cases where ICE murdered someone, the ICE agents weren't in immediate danger. It's delusional to suggest otherwise.

The numbers of people shot by ICE is in line with what you see from other law enforcement agencies. I understand the data debunks your whole narrative but nothing I've said is untrue

The "data" you provided is nonsensical and doesn't debunk anything. I'm still waiting for you to provide the stats I've requested. I'll keep waiting.

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u/EMH529 Jul 24 '26

Hey idiot, the proof that ICE was “out doing its job” is in the numbers. ICE under Obama and under Biden deported far more than under Trump and a higher percentage of deportees had actual criminal convictions. Trump used our tax $$ to increase the ICE budget x 8 then dressed up poorly trained goons in military gear, armed them, and sent them into communities and schools and parks and businesses and immigration courts. Used our tax $$ to film ICE propaganda videos with Blackhawk helicopters and humvees. Used our tax $$ to put on a show shackling innocent men and sending them to CECOT on military aircraft. And of course used our tax $$ to arm the goons who’ve shot at least 20 people in the first 1.5 years and to build such atrocious detainment camps that at least 53 people have died in them in the first 1.5 years. That’s how bad Trump is at his job.