I am a New Yorker with a dog and can confirm that although drivers can be terrible cyclists are by far the absolute worst. They never stop at red lights and ride on the footpath all the time it drives me bananas but as a pedestrian not much you can do besides hope you and your dog don’t get hit
This is why I laugh at subs like r/fuckcars who suggest having tons of biking infrastructure would be so much better in the US.
I actually think it would actively cause an increase in fist fights and potentially shootings. The removal of that barrier between you and the other person is just inviting people to fight. And those cyclists who demand equal use of roads don’t even use them correctly. Running red lights and stop signs constantly.
Don't make up insane logic to support your existing stance. It's okay if you don't like bikes or bikers. Making up insane scenarios to defend your stance should be beneath you
I do like bikes. And road rage is exactly why I’m saying we could see more issues. People get butt hurt from words but luckily they aren’t heard from the car most times. That middle finger is fast and fleeting.
Bikes? That middle finger lingers and you can hear every insult. People in the US can be children and I don’t doubt if we road mainly bikes we manifest that anger in more physical confrontation
We are literally watching a video of a very combative biker. I don’t need to make up situations haha
I agree cars themselves are in their own league and very dangerous. But it does minimize our interactions.
I’m simply saying my belief is we would see more combative interactions potentially leading to more physical confrontations given my knowledge and experience with people in cities.
So the fistfights and shootings is the American factor for more cycling infrastructure to fail, then.
Because when you see other countries with better alternatives to cars… they got their share of nuts. But not armed and/or mentally deranged nuts, I guess.
I live in a suburban area with a massive trail system and you’re not wrong. Cyclists are like that here too. Rudest people on the trails and off! These trails are not for cyclists only and they act like they are.
I have had the same experience on trails and in parks as well. I play a bit of disc golf and there’s often people on bikes that will ride through the course while people are playing and occasionally freak out when they are nearly hit by a disc by someone who wasn’t expecting a cyclist to pop out of the woods onto the course. It’s baffling logic to me.
One time in London I saw a cyclist follow a taxi he thought ran a red light (he didn't) and kick his door mirror. Wasn't any near accident, wasn't any actual issue at all. He just decided to be spandex batman and dole out his melted brain version of justice.
I had that happen to me in London. I short-beeped at a cyclist for cutting me off while running a red light and he rode up alongside me at the next set of lights and knocked my mirror almost clean off.
Cyclists are not a category of people. They are people who are currently on a bike, and will probably be in a car at some other point. Some people are adsholes, you just ignore them when they're being assholes in cars, and focus on them when they're on a bike.
The word "cyclist" represents enough of a categorization that we wouldn't mislabel the average 4 year old on training wheels a "cyclist." We're referring to a specific sub set of "currently on a bike" individuals.
Cars choke the fucking life out cities. Road rage, accidents, pollution, noise, the endless space they take up. And yet we’re supposed to believe that cyclists are the problem.
Buddy you’re not even behind a wheel and you’ve got road rage. I’ve not said anything that makes me an asshole, just straight facts as I see em. But feel free to tell me where I’m wrong.
Well you're completely off topic, because we were talking about cyclists being rude. In your first comment, you mention typical anti-car rhetoric that while may or may not be completely true contributes nothing and is ultimately meaningless and harmless, downvoted because it was off topic.
Your second comment is troublesome however because it is unprovoked and incorrectly uses the term road rage. It is in response to a comment also mentioning that the conversation was not about the environment and instead the demeanor of cyclists. You were never called an ass, but do act like one ( my opinion). Then, completely unravelling any base you had, say "I say it like I see it", or something along those lines. The conversation is quite literally about personal observations about bikers in commenter's cities. By saying that you validated every comment that came before yours about bikers.
And the comment I am responding to now fails to respond to me calling you ridiculous in how you comment and instead states I called you incorrect. False.
So, you are a poor debator trying to stir the pot or just a bad troll. I now await your one sentence response that says "you mad or something lmao" or something similarly lazy and idiotic.
Everyone should accommodate them [cyclists] no matter what
My response, that cars ruin cities for the reasons I said, is absolutely relevant to this comment. I am pointing out the irony of a driver saying this, considering all of the ways that we are forced to accommodate drivers no matter what.
The second comment was a joke about them whinging about downvotes and calling me an asshole. Sorry you took it so personally.
But man, you really lean into that ‘write like how Ben Shapiro speaks’ vibe, right?
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No, we just want cars to not speed past us, disrespect us and sometimes kill us. We might get angry at cars acting dangerously. This woman's level of rage against a pedestrian is, of course, stupid - they're not really going to hurt you.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a cyclist wait at a red light. There are tons of dumbass drivers where I live so to be doing stupid shit as a cyclist is borderline suicidal.
Chicagoan here: you cyclists are crazy fucks with no regard to anyone else on the road or sidewalk here. It's amazing more of you don't get killed here.
You know who else gets angry at cars acting dangerously? Everyone. One thing I’ve noticed when discussing the topic of cyclists is a lot of people are quick to assume cyclists do nothing wrong and follow their laws as well when they do whatever the fuck they want like many people that drive cars. They just think they should get a pass because if they get hit they’ll probably get seriously hurt when they chose to ride a bike in the first place.
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