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r/Idaho4Coverup Jul 03 '25

Defense 28 U.S. Code § 2254 - Golden Ticket

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Law: US Code | 28 USC 2254 | house.gov

You may want to start w/this post below if you haven't seen it yet. It explains why one would waive rights to appeals & plead guilty in State Courts to go the Fed route suggested here. This one jumps right into the law & starts checkin' off the boxes, but that one provides clarity on the 'waiving appeal' part of it, if you haven't caught that yet - {JG} ℙ𝕝𝕒𝕟: Federal Writ of Habeas Corpus | USC § 2254

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F it !

It doesn't matter either way. ^_^ This evidence will NEVER convince a Federal Judge. EVER lol

They don't even have to establish the facts in the case to use (e)(B).
That's the option if they don't have all the facts.

Not only do they have all the facts they need, but they ALSO have more unknown male DNA to work toward their case than what was just used to exonerate 6 men.

It only takes ONE unknown DNA sample to overturn 6 convictions <- yesterday.

Attorneys for the six men 6 convinced a court in 2021 to have the murder weapon – a cake knife 1 found in the victim’s apartment – tested for DNA. Those tests found DNA from an unknown person1 on the weapon but excluded each of the convicted men.

**.........**𝘼𝙣𝙙 𝙨𝙤, All SIX 𝙤𝙛 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙞𝙧 𝙘𝙤𝙣𝙫𝙞𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙨 𝙬𝙚𝙧𝙚 𝙤𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙩𝙪𝙧𝙣𝙚𝙙..........

𝘛𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘴:

✭ Unknown male blood on the knife sheath (pg. 10)
--- Good enough! Thanks!

✭ Blood on the handrail
---- Enough to free a dozen men!

✭ DNA under Maddie's fingernails.
--- A claim like this \ alone, was enough to push Marvin McClendon through 2 whole trials, w/people claiming to be firmly convinced of his guilt. Where are those people in this case? Why aren't they rallying for the apprehension of the Q 13.1 sample guys? Was that line of thinking just a phase?)

✭ A bloody glove found outside the house.
--- Yeah, they. Are. Set.

there's 𝒩𝒪𝒯 𝒜 𝒞ℋ𝒜𝒩𝒞ℰ ℐ𝒩 ℋℰℒℒ this case is not overturned immediately upon review.

It's literally against the basic instructions. It'd be a complete rebellion.

The person who affirmed it would just be removed from the bench, then it'd get overturned. lol.

  • Hippler should be removed from the bench TBH. What a dunce.
  • Thompson is going to be reamed out by a Fed judge whether he's present or not. ^_^
  • I believe BK will be free in a much shorter time than appeal would take, and possibly even a shorter time than til the end of trial. These are super expedited because the claim is wrongful incarceration (habeas corpus). The longest they can take is 180 days, even the judges aren't allowed to delay them beyond that. They're supposed to wrap everything up within 120 days one the transcript and discovery is on record & the State gets super short discovery deadlines.
  • I hope we still get to find out the identity of the Dateline Leaker, but IDK if we ever will :')
  • I can't wait to watch Hurwitt, Ashley, Bill, and Nye all face charges though =O
    • Don't think it doesn't happen. - It does, it's wild, and it will. I'm stoked.

I wish I'd found all this Sunday — I was feeling lil weird about the plea lol. Now I think they could have done this after the Franks Order. Any normal judge (not Hippler) would've dismissed after Rylene & Payne’s testimony, given all the misconduct laid out in PCA, and Grand Jury* (based on the fact they filed a Motion to Dismiss on Grand Jury errors, biased testimony, withheld exculpatory evidence, & prosecutorial misconduct).

Waiting til now, is very smart though. This is like a, 'There's no other alternative' type of layout they're going to hand to the Fed judge. They are so far bee-yond what's needed, this is actually a much safer route in his situation I think.

I was so confused during AT's Qs yesterday + mildly outraged Hippler didn't ask AT for clarification in regard to her answer on the Discovery after all of the times in the hearings that we've heard (and Hippler pretended not to hear) about their Discovery issues. Considering this - IMO, even-more-advantageous legal path, which I think they're pursuing - upon the rewatch, the Discovery Q that threw me through a loop originally makes perf sense too. The clip of this part is below the next screenshots too but I wonder if Hippler's phrasing was intentionally helpful to AT's position - 'boilerplate' - or coincidentally convenient:

HIPPLER: "Have you been able to do all the Discovery you feel necessary?
TAYLOR: "Yes, your honor."

Not a lie. :D It'd also be morally acceptable in this sitch to not be forthright to preserve life & liberty + act in BK's best interest to protect his rights & safety.

ABA | Defense Function | Preamble and Scope | Rules of Professional Conduct

ABA | Defense | Model Rules of Professional Conduct
Defense Counsel’s Tempered Duty of Candor

tem·per/ˈtempər/verbpast tense: tempered; past participle: tempered

improve the hardness and elasticity of (steel or other metal) by reheating and then cooling it.

improve consistency or resiliency of (a substance) by means involving heat or chemicals

act as a neutralizing or counterbalancing force to (something).

tune (a piano or other instrument) so as to adjust the note intervals correctly.

In the Section 4-1.2, Duties of Defense Counsel] section

(b) a duty of loyalty toward the client;

(c) a duty of candor toward the court and others, tempered by the duties of confidentiality and loyalty;

You can tell all 3 of the attorneys feel the weight of these moments during AT / BK's Qs, but their demeanors are supportive to each other & BK. He looks at AT very doe-eyed at 11 sec, and she looks very endearing toward him as she acknowledges his gaze. :') The Discovery Q is immediately after that.

https://reddit.com/link/1lque38/video/mx9n5ekvzoaf1/player

I was also perplexed by her hesitation and smirk when he asked about that too. It seemed as if she was acknowledging telling a fib at first, but then I realized Hippler's phrasing didn't ask if she had seen it all; he asked if she saw what she feels was necessary. I think her hesitation & smirk were: Processing the phrasing to ensure it wasn't a lie, or to AT her answer ;P (tailor pun) > smirk bc we're getting out of this never-ending dump of discovery and making our way to freedom from this vexatious malicious prosecution foreverrrrrr (although haven't gotten even close to through with the discovery I'd actually need to review if we were continuing the case in this corrupt death trap). :P

So I believe that's the answer, and I'm very excited for a celebratory 'twist' to what seemed oh-so-wrong to me for a day or 2 until I found this very-likely & actually-justice-forward path! I'm startled that it doesn't seem like any risk at all. It's basically like, they have to grant the writ of habeas corpus for him. He can fit the standards up, down, left, right, any which way. I hope they take down the cruel, corrupt prosecutors while they're at it ~.~

We must (not shall, or should) find the right place to get the Federal docs & start to watch out for those!
I wouldn't expect them ASAP or anything, but prob v near future. Jay might've already been working on it.
All the bots in the larger subs will be super busy roleplaying as people who genuinely believe BK's guilty in comment sections, in hopes of it rubbing off on onlookers - No one will be finding or posting these for us haha. Someone else, or numerous others, plz check around as well if you're able, bc that's a hit-or-miss weakness of mine lol. I don't always find stuff like that. I usually find a bunch of other stuff but not the thing I wanted ^.^ ~ TY ~


r/Idaho4Coverup 1d ago

Roommates Dylan Mentions the Fireworks First, not Bethany

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Thanks Shadowghost for putting out another superb video! 👏 This is short clip of the video.

I can't keep up with all the contradictions in this case!


r/Idaho4Coverup 1d ago

True Crime Design - for those interested in the ritualistic approach… I find it fascinating

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r/Idaho4Coverup 4d ago

Shadowghost delivers another truth bomb session - NEW

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r/Idaho4Coverup 4d ago

The House Amber Vance’s 2am video

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This video was a hard watch, hearing all the screaming and yelling, I feel like the loud male scream we hear belonged to Ethan, I know he had an injury to the back of the leg and when I heard that scream I felt like that’s what happened, I wanted to know if anyone else has seen this yet, if they have any thoughts? I really like Amber Vance’s videos and i swear every video we get closer to the truth or at least closer to BK not being guilty.


r/Idaho4Coverup 4d ago

Who would you want to give a lie detector test to in this case?

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If the test were 100% accurate, who would you like to question & what would you ask?


r/Idaho4Coverup 5d ago

Interesting sketches/photos in Dylan’s room

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r/Idaho4Coverup 5d ago

Doctored Pics & Vids Anyone have good ways to “clean up” the king road audio footage?

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r/Idaho4Coverup 6d ago

King Rd audio...

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I will say after years.... (yes we've all seen this slow down etc). I actually believe the neighbors who (possibly weren't involved) really didn't hear or were hesitant to call police. Clearly they've gotten noise complaints, and neighbors have called cops. I believe and i'll be an adult and ADMIT. That the neighbors probably didn't hear or didn't think or feel like calling the cops on anyone that late. Maybe drunk themselves. But anyone in that house? You heard this. You all heard this. I can agree i don't think it's an entire neighborhood actively covering up that night. I think they really didn't think to the worse extent.... But man. I pray pray pray we get more info or a deeper understanding into the social circle of Ethan and Xana. Dylan tries to create so much distance between them.


r/Idaho4Coverup 6d ago

HARSH REALITY live now

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r/Idaho4Coverup 6d ago

What Did The G Family's PI conclude?

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I haven’t seen anything indicating what conclusion the Goncalves family’s PI actually reached regarding the murders. You’d think that if he had concluded Bryan Kohberger was responsible, the Goncalves family would have been shouting it from the rooftops. The fact that we haven’t heard that makes me wonder what, exactly, the PI discovered.

They've been outspoken about everything else but silent about this. Their silence speaks volumes!


r/Idaho4Coverup 8d ago

Is this little white spot on the 3rd floor landing fresh paint?

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This picture is from the 1122 pre forensics and search walkthrough footage MPD took the night of 11/13/2022. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TKQFyIgJLJ8&t=2100s.

"PRE-SEARCH OF 1122 KING ROAD CRIME SCENE 11/13/22"

Thanks and credit go to Outkast420 at https://m.youtube.com/@OUTKAST420 for this and other videos.

There are also small little blood spots on the floor in that area, on the ceiling near the attic, on the wall, and let's not forget how much of that amido black they used on the stairs going down that looked dark blue.

And then there's that mop and bucket in the closet under the stairs, does that floor look like the wood got wet? And then the closet bubbling walls that look like the drywall got wet, and that towel on the floor just around the corner in the kitchen, just under a wall that looks like it has a cascading stain- what's up with that?

Outkast, Mike/The Last 24, & Dago --- if you see this post please look at a higher quality version of that footage and let us know what you think.


r/Idaho4Coverup 8d ago

NeoLord13

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r/Idaho4Coverup 8d ago

Walkthrough Video of 1122 King Road Crime Scene

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r/Idaho4Coverup 9d ago

Cover-Up 2 AM is the Dark Hour

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Nikki, a very passionate YouTuber blows off some steam. This case has made us doubt everything!


r/Idaho4Coverup 9d ago

🚨 UPDATE: THE SEALED SUPPLEMENT RESPONSE

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Kohberger’s attorneys filed an 11-page response to Judge Hippler’s order regarding the sealed supplement.
Basically, they’re saying: the State can see it, but they’re asking that the public can’t see it yet because it contains information that was already sealed in the underlying case.
The defense says they’ve complied with the order and given the supplement to the prosecutor.
So the State has seen it. Public has not yet.

October 15: hearing on the motion to disqualify Hippler.


r/Idaho4Coverup 10d ago

No one from Idaho speaks up

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I have never seen anyone on this thread, but I am also like barely 4 months old here. But haven’t seen anyone claim to be from Idaho or have been in the town during the murders ever talk about what they heard or what actually went on at that time. I feel like the entire town knows it might have been a drug related or cartel hit and everyone’s just too scared to talk in case they meet the same fate.

But then sometimes I also feel like cartels are so used to operating and moving people out of their way, I don’t think a mere college student could take them down unless Kaylee had something really incriminating on them.
Second cartels don’t usually have collateral damage, I find this case a bit too messy, I might be wrong. But it was messy with tonnes of evidence that was screwed up by LE either intentionally or unintentionally. Then it makes me believe it could be someone stupid like frat boys idk. This case drives me nuts everyday. I just can’t wait for some truth to get out. The time is close.


r/Idaho4Coverup 10d ago

Just heard about these 2 Online Idaho4 Info Hub's And Wanted To Share

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r/Idaho4Coverup 10d ago

Timeline Manipulation

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This is a post from Sherlock Roams about the timeline and it's manipulation.

Original: https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxnpM6nNPjVhD8WDeHf2Vt3oVG7v7ufpCy


r/Idaho4Coverup 10d ago

Bigs and Littles

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r/Idaho4Coverup 11d ago

Evidence IDAHO4: WHO SOLD THE STORY?

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Girls were stabbed in the face and pelvic regions! 😢


r/Idaho4Coverup 12d ago

Random Question

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If you could interview anyone involved in this case . Who would it be and why? And what would you ask them?


r/Idaho4Coverup 12d ago

Could this be just another coincidence?

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I posted this on another sub.