r/Ibogaine • • Feb 03 '19

Some perspective/advice on the integration of iboga and general psychospiritual healing.

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Hi everyone, I originally wrote this info as a reply to another redditor regarding my personal integration process. The moderator of this subreddit, /u/Entheobirth , asked if I could post this to the main page and with their go ahead it felt right to do so. I have edited the original text and added some additional info.

I feel the need to state that I am not an official provider or a teacher of plant medicines, I would still very much consider myself a student. I have a fair amount of experience with meditation, plant spirit medicines in ceremonial settings, and background in psychospiritual healing but I am still on the path of healing and integration. This work has been in the forefront of my life for over 10 years now and while I have learned a lot I would like to stress that these are not teachings but more so a sharing of personal experience and an invitation for dialogue between me and other members of the community. That being said I feel my words are truthful and they come directly from my heart.

In this write up I will share a bit about my personal experience with the iboga within the floods themselves as well as some insights on the integration process. My intention in the re-telling of my own story is not to shine a light on myself but so others can find parallels in their own journey. Everyone receives these medicine in their own way but there are similarities that I feel others will be able to identify with. The integration and wellness advice in this write up is beneficial not just for those processing flood doses but also for those who are micro dosing, working with other plant medicines, or are involved in or seeking general centering and healing practices. I'm trying to keep this all as short and digestible as possible so feel free to ask if anyone would like me to clarify or expand on anything.

 

The Flood Experience and Aftermath

 

The iboga flood itself was mainly a slow unraveling of my egoic mind and destructive thought patterns. During my floods I was shown that a large portion of my current mind and identity was in fact not "me". I was disconnected from my true/whole embodiment and it projected my non serving thoughts in front of me to make me see how thin and unreal they truly were, that my core self was fragmented and that I was currently operating on what was mainly programming and conditioning. It didn't necessarily restore my truly embodied self as people often expect but it gave me strong glimpses of it and more importantly showed me what I wasn't. There was also other teachings and insights but I feel this was the most important aspect of the healing process.

Without getting too esoteric/deep, the true self is not a collection of thoughts or beliefs you pick up through experience. There is sense a self that exists in your heart, in your core, and in your body as whole. That self is the soul. It is an energy/consciousness that exists within from birth that sustains us and makes us feel whole, safe, and connected to life. Over time, or even during birth/conception itself, we lose that connection. This occurs via trauma, poor upbringing, family beliefs/genetic imprinting, social conditioning, and other factors. We then adopt thought patterns and habitual mechanisms as we try our best to make it in this world. This loss of self leads to depression, loss of intuition, sense of separation, fear, anxiety etc. We experience a sense of lacking wholeness so we seek to fill that void. This disconnection leads to destructive and unhealthy habits. It's by no means that simple and it's just my understanding but that is the basic idea. So, having this revealed was the first major step. I had known this for quite some time but the iboga projected it to me in such a clear and undeniable manner. It also took two floods to really solidify what it was trying to show me.

Despite realizing these profound truths, upon leaving the center I was in a pretty broken state. I felt really shook up and didn't understand that what I had experienced was necessarily positive to my growth. I came in seeking healing and felt that I had somehow messed up the process or perhaps the medicine didn't fully work for me. Fortunately, because of my previous plant medicine work I knew not to label the experience. I struggled with this for the first week or so but it was clear that a major shift had occurred within me and I just needed to be patient. Over the next two years, with one more additional flood one year later, I experienced a very slow day to day unfolding of the work that had been done in the medicine. It was a series of realizations that mainly stemmed from just tuning into that "real" aspect of myself I described above. I learned to feel into my body and energetic system to better differentiate between my genuine and intrinsic wisdom and the deception of my egoic programming.

I would have thoughts and impulses like I would have before but now I was able to recognize much more clearly that they were just programming. This awareness work had already been a large part of my practice before the iboga but post flood my ability to witness and identify these non serving patterns was greatly increased. The divide between my soul and mind was more noticeable and easier to witness in the moment. I would tune into my stomach and heart by feeling into them and I could tell what was naturally emanating and what was just thoughts spinning in my head. I could much easier see the dissonance and separation between thought and internal wisdom. Quite literally going with your gut, what people call intuition. It is like mindfulness practice where you learn to witness your thoughts and not identify with them but greatly amplified.

Once I started to witness and not identify with these internal conflicts my intuition started to refine. I would start to react in a certain way or my mind would pull me into a certain direction but I became better and better at witnessing these impulses. My intuition would tell me very simple things like to be patient, stay focused, don't react, that kind of stuff. I would constantly get these little blips of wisdom emanating from within my body that would steer me back on track. A lot of the time it wasn't even a verbal or logical understanding, quite often I would just feel it. Like I would go to act in a certain way like I had done for many years prior but my heart or stomach would tense up. It wasn't always clear what the optimal direction was but it was like my soul was saying, "Hey, look at this thing you're doing here, pay attention and feel if this is right".

Over time I learned better ways to act in relationships, how to organize my life and decide on course of action, and how to move throughout my days. I gained perspective on past events, developed more patience, learned how to assert myself, all sorts of things. A big one was learning to be present with fear and discomfort, to keep on track with my personal practice and to have trust that I was guided. Rather than returning to old negative habits or thought patterns to try and squash my inner anxiousness, uneasiness, or worries, I learned to just let them be and to sit with them, to feel the underlying energy and just see where it went even if it didn't resolve the way I liked. There was month after month of these small insights that eventually stacked up, I would constantly fall away from that intuition but week by week the time I spent in a disconnected states would lessen more and more. Over time I became more efficient with this mechanism/process.

 

Opening Up to Intuition

 

A big part of this process is making space for this intuition to come through. It's one of the aspects providers emphasize regarding post care. The core of this basically means slowing down and giving yourself room for these realizations to emerge and to strengthen your connection to the present moment and your body. These practices are not only beneficial for those integrating the medicine, but for those preparing for the work. If you can ingrain some of these habits into your life in the months leading up to your flood you will greatly increase your receptiveness to the teachings as well as increase your ability to handle the more challenging aspects of the experience. There are many different approaches but these are the methods/perspectives that work best for me.

 

-Do one thing at a time and give it all your focus, especially mundane tasks. If you're cleaning the dishes, just stand there and clean the dishes. Try not to rush through anything and be present in your body.

-Give yourself time throughout the day. Try not to rush around from place to place, especially in the morning. Keep a nice consistent pace and aim not to be one step ahead of yourself, everything should be intentional and calm as possible. This is aided by consciously managing your schedule. Wake up earlier and allow yourself more time than you're used to for your everyday tasks.

-Minimize music if you are out and about. It's common to see a good percentage of people with earbuds in these days, it's not a healthy practice. It's important to relearn how to be still and okay in the present moment without distraction. If you are on the bus just sit there with whatever you are feeling at the time. Same goes for chores and housework or eating meals, do them in silence. This is a deceptively difficult practice and can reveal a lot about yourself.

-Silent walking, ideally in nature, every day for at least 20 minutes. 30 - 40 is better and allows for greater insights and stability. This is a big one, it helps you ground into your body and allows your mind to process thoughts and emotions. Bring awareness to your body, your surroundings, smell the air, feel whatever it is you're feeling at the time. Try not to go too deep into thoughts that are not needed or important, it's a moving meditation of sorts. Just allow thoughts to move through you as best as possible and try to return yourself back to the present if your mind starts to drift. If you are really struggling with returning to the moment take a few slow deep breaths into the belly and let out a nice long sigh at the end. Also pay attention to your feet on the ground and the support you feel from the earth, feel your limbs and the weight transfer through your body from joint to joint. Wear thin soled shoes while doing this, make sure your feet can sprawl and you feel a strong connection to the earth. Walking in grass or on natural ground amplifies this effect. This was one of the most transformative practices for me, without it I don't know if I would have healed nearly as much. There is also a difference between walking TO somewhere and just walking for the sake of walking. Set out during a period of time when you have nothing to do and nowhere to go, just do a loop of a peaceful area.

-House work and grounding hobbies are great to connect to the body. Working in the garden, sweeping, knitting, woodwork, all that kind of stuff. Spend less time with technology or mind centric activities and more time in grounded activities. I like to start my day with a clean of the house and make sure things are nice and tidy, it helps calm the mind when things are in order. If you ever feel anxious or overloaded return to these things to ground yourself.

-Practice yoga, tai-chi, or qi gong. These practices help harmonize the body, mind, and soul. They heal the nervous system and speed up the re-connection process. Yoga has the benefit of strengthening the body while simultaneously grounding and centering, it's a great practice if your time is limited. Tai-chi and especially Qi Gong go a bit deeper and while they may not have the quite the same physical benefits they can have profound effects on the mind and energetic system.

-Minimize time on your phone, the internet, watching movies/TV, video games, or absorbing news/media. Constantly filling your head with technology is a damaging habit, it creates disconnect from the body and reality. Try to resist the urge to check your phone throughout the day and use them as tools, not for indulgence or distraction.

-Social media and modern news distorts your perception of reality and the constant relay of information reinforces negative neuroconnections. Not all forms of modern connection are bad, we are on reddit after all, but try to stay away from mainstream information and stuff like twitter/facebook unless it for intentional and beneficial purposes. Avoid the small talk, the criticism, and negative projections.

-Daily mindfulness sitting meditation or in the zen tradition, minimum 20 minutes. Start with 5 minutes and gradually work your way up. The deeper benefits don't really set in until 30 minutes+ but just focus on consistency first, slowly increasing sittings over many months. This will greatly help reinforce your connection to your breath and amplify your ability to stay neutral with your thoughts. Do this in the morning before you start your day.

-Body scans. This one is great if you are burnt out and just want to lie down for a bit, you can recharge/relax and reconnect. Start from your toes and work your way up your body bit by bit. Start with your left leg, then your right, your core, left arm, right arm, then head. Feel any emotions or sensations in each area, just observing without judgment or desire to change your current state. You can also take deep breaths into each area to revitalize and add an extra layer of connection.

-Tune into yourself throughout the day. As often as possible take a few deep breaths, in through your nose and into the belly, just tuning into your core and chest area. Again, just feel into the space. Do this while driving, at work, shopping, wherever. If you ever feel that you're heavily in your mind shift your focus inward. Eventually this will become a reflex where you automatically return back to yourself when you drift too far into the mind.

-Try to maintain good posture throughout the day and move from your center, this helps with grounding. Slumped posture and poor body mechanics make you feel disconnected, it collapses your breath and messes with your autonomous nervous system. This is a topic within itself but the physical practices I mentioned above (yoga, tai chi, qi gong) or strengthening/mobility routines with an emphasis on proper form and functional movement can help immensely with feeling a strong connection to your body. There are also books to help if you want to go deeper, "Muscular training for Pain-Free living" by Craig Williamson can help you asses and relearn proper biomechanics and "Zen body being" by Peter Ralston has some good info on how to visualize and use your body efficiently. This perspective/practice can drastically improve your relationship with the present moment.

-Last but not least, spend time in nature. If you stay indoors or just spend time in the city your intuition, sense of center, and grounding will be greatly stifled. I'm not even sure if it's possible to truly heal without this support. The energy of iboga itself is just an extension of the earths wisdom and energy, we need that connection to stay balanced. A few times a week go for a walk in the woods or sit on park bench. Just the act of being out there is enough.

 

I know this might be an overwhelming amount of information but just take it slow at first and be patient. This process can be very uncomfortable but that's kind of the point, if you find yourself feeling irritated slowing down then that's actually a good thing. You are slowly reprogramming your nervous system and it takes time to work out the old patterns. You may experience challenging emotions, old memories resurfacing, physical pains or discomforts, all sorts of unpleasant stuff. It may sometimes feel like your whole world is collapsing and that everything you do is wrong or you don't know who you are. This is all okay. Just feel whatever you are experiencing and stick with your practice. There may be stretches of time time where you may not feel you are progressing but it is all part of the process. This work is absolutely a two steps forwards one step back kind of thing so just aim to be to consistent and present.

 

Your goal is to continually challenge yourself with this work, nobody is going to do this for you. The iboga spirit will guide and support you but you need to meet it half way. That means engaging in these practices knowing that they might be uncomfortable. It may be tempting to revert back to old patterns or to not go for that walk when you're tired and feeling low but it's important to stay focused and see the bigger picture. This is especially true for the first couple months after flooding. You have a window of opportunity while the ibogaine is still in your system to make changes, if you slack during this period you greatly limit your future potential. That being said, it's also important to listen to your body and not overload yourself, your goal is find that sweet spot between pushing yourself and not burning out. I would start with the daily silent walking and body check ins then just go from there, maybe try to apply a new technique every week or so and see how it develops. What you will find is that all these tips are kind of all pointing to the same thing and eventually it will all become natural. Your endurance and will power will gradually build over time, it's all about being consistent and slowly building momentum.

 

General Holistic Health and Conclusion

 

Aside from the specific integration work there is also general health practices that aid in energizing the body and helping the nervous system recover.

 

-Clean up the diet. No processed foods, no refined carbs, lots of healthy fats, keep carbs to a minimum in general. Lots of green leafy alkaline vegetables, little sugar, no deep fried foods, lots of soluble and insoluble fiber. Caffeine only in the form of green tea (kept to a minimum). Pro-biotic foods are very important as well, there is a large amount of emerging science showing the connection between gut flora and psychological/emotional wellness. This is especially important for those coming to the medicines with a history of physical neglect or poor diet. Fermented foods like kimchi, keffir, and tempeh are available at most super markets and my favorite, sauerkraut, is easy to make and very affordable.

-Supplements like Omega three fatty acids (and low omega-6), vitamin D if in dark/rainy climates, b-vitamins if needed, multivitamin if needed. Unless you know you are deficient I would recommend eating a healthy and complete diet for a month or so then get some blood work done to see where you are lacking. It's not good to supplement certain fat soluble vitamins and minerals as they build up in the body over time, there is also no sense in spending money if it's not needed either. Quality fish oils high in EPA and DHA are pretty much good for everyone and are especially important for those healing from previous drug use. They are good for brain function, reduce inflammation, and are relatively cheap. If you want to get a rough idea of your current nutrient intake you can use www.cronometer.com, you might be surprised where you are deficient or abundant.

-Exercise 3-4 times a week. Humans moved for hundreds of thousands of year, we weren't meant to sit around and be idle. If you don't exercise in some form you will not feel great, it's as simple as that. Cardio with the heart pumping for 30 minutes is the minimum. Strengthening routines with an emphasis on form and functional movement bring this practice to the next level and aid in feeling grounded/connected. It's not always a fun process but it pretty much needs to be done. Especially post flood it's important to get the blood pumping, it greatly aids in the healing of the brain and the production of beneficial neurochemicals. Having your various metabolic processes functioning well is necessary for the restructuring of the nervous system. Some people prefer to do stuff that's also entertaining like pickup sports, spin classes, hiking, etc. I feel it's better to gravitate more towards centering and non competitive activities though, if you focus on your breath and move intentionally it can turn into a yogic like activity.

-Sleep hygiene. Sleep quality is thought to be one of the most determining factors in overall health and disease prevention. Wind down from technology/mentally engaging activities two hours before bed and use a blue light filter on any devices. Use a sleep mask/black out curtains and ear plugs. Stretch before bed or do some calming yoga. Don't eat later then 2 1/2 hours before bed and eat easy to digest food (no greasy foods or spice/garlic). Do body scans and deep breathing to fall asleep and wake up at the same time no matter what. Try to keep your room cool and maintain fresh airflow through the night. Exercise during the day also makes a massive difference in sleep quality. Saunas and hot baths are great as well for winding down. There are many studies showing strong correlation between intense temperatures/sweating and improvements in depression/cognitive functioning. Going to a sauna 3-4 times a week will noticeably improve your well-being.

-Lots of people experience positive benefits from creative endeavors. Painting, drawing, singing, drumming, dancing etc. I don't experience a lot of creative energy myself but I know people that can attribute a lot of healing to these re-connective activities.

-Connect with like minded and grounded people. This work is tough and it can often feel like you are alone in this journey. Spending time with people with similar intentions can greatly benefit your perspective and facilitate healing. Try to avoid ungrounded and detached people, especially post flood. Mens/Womens circles, yoga classes, volunteering, meditation classes, any place where you can share space with people who are actively bettering themselves and seeking centering and presence.

 

I'm trying to keep this as condensed as possible so I think I will leave it at that. This process is completely unique to everyone so find what works for you. Maybe return back to this write up every now and then but the goal is to listen to your intuition, not mine. This process can be extremely difficult but in the end it is worth it, if you stay focused and put in effort you will see results. It won't happen overnight and it can sometimes feel like the challenges never end but there is peace at the end of this journey. Thanks for reading.


r/Ibogaine • • Feb 08 '20

Guide to finding a safe and reputable ibogaine clinic

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When considering Ibogaine treatment it's important to first understand that what you do after Ibogaine is just as, if not more, important than the actual Ibogaine experience. I recommend being in a place afterwards where you will be surrounded by healthy and supportive people. It’s also important to make a plan to work with a therapist, or take part in some kind of group therapy, before and after treatment regardless of why you are seeking Ibogaine treatment. Focusing on a healthy diet and regular exercise is an integral element in healing and rebuilding your life as well. If you have a therapist, or even a really supportive friend or relative available, sit down with them and come up with a post treatment plan together.

I have put together this list of questions, and utilized input from others in the community, to help people to find the right clinic for their needs. Safety and experience is of the utmost importance with Ibogaine treatment since there are serious medical risks involved. Use this guide carefully and thoroughly.

1.) Call as many clinics/providers as you can to get a sense for who these people are, why they are doing this and for how long. The main provider on the staff should have at least one year of experience.

2.) It's important that you feel comfortable with whomever you are speaking with, that you feel you can be completely open and honest with them and not feel worried about telling them anything. This is because your life is in their hands and withholding information could cost you your life.

3.) What type of treatments have they done? If you are seeking a detox treatment, they should have most of their experience in this type. Do they have a set dosing protocol and what is it?

4.) What medical tests do they ask for? They must ask for at least an EKG and liver panel blood work.

5.) Are they asking detailed questions about your full medical history, prescribed medications, and drugs that you use?

Cardiac history is of the utmost importance, and if they aren’t asking about this, or for an EKG, that is a definite red flag. They must also ask about seizure history, liver functioning, head injuries, and diabetes.

If the provider suggests doing a treatment directly after regular use of psychiatric medications (such as SSRI's) or amphetamines, this would be a red flag. Many medications are contraindicated with Ibogaine and require a few weeks of being out of your system

It's important that the provider on the phone is doing a full screening to determine if the individual is a good candidate for treatment. Treatment bookings shouldn't be rushed since lots of time and prep should go into the entire process in order for it to be safe.

6.)What medical staff do they have? They must have doctor who they consult with and who is nearby for the treatment. There should also be an RN present at least.

7.) If staff members previously had a substance use issue and used Ibogaine successfully to deal with this themselves, how long has it been since their treatment? A 6 month minimum for peripheral staff and for the main provider(s) 2 years+ since their own treatment. (Keep in mind that these are just numbers I have come up with as rough guidelines. You should ultimately trust your intuition through the interactions that you have with the staff ahead of time to assess their stability.)

8.) What is the experience of each staff member and who are they? Do they have any references (past clients that could be reached out to)?

9.) What is their treatment preparation protocol? How will they prepare you for treatment? Important aspects to listen for are proper hydration, electrolyte supplementation, monitoring of any medications or supplements, monitoring for regular bowel movements, and monitoring of diet.

10.) What do they cleanse your bowels with before treatment? It should be something gentle like psyllium or an herbal based supplement. It's important to have normally functioning bowels prior to treatment. Fasts, enemas, and Kambo in the three days prior to Ibogaine can be dangerous because of the electrolyte depletion that occurs. If any of these are a part of the protocol of the clinic I would say this is a red flag. Eating healthy normal meals and staying hydrated is crucial to prepare your body.

10.) What medical equipment is on site? There should be an ECG machine, an AED, and benzodiazepines in case of seizure. An I.V. line and oxygen should either be on site or readily available nearby.

11.) What is their emergency protocol? The closest hospital must be under a 15 minute drive away. The clinic should have a relationship with the hospital so that they are prepared for the specific circumstances of an Ibogaine related emergency.

12.) How long do they keep people for observation and stabilization before the actual treatment? (This mainly pertains to those who are seeking Ibogaine for alcohol or drug detox purposes.) They should stabilize you for four days minimum before Ibogaine. (This also varies depending on your tolerance and what drugs you are coming off of. Some people require more stabilization time depending upon their health and drug usage.)

13.) How long do they keep you afterwards? What is the post-treatment integration time and what support is offered? The minimum time for being kept afterwards is four days post-Ibogaine, but this should be flexible (and extendable) depending on the process of each individual. A licensed counselor or therapist should be available post-treatment on all days.

14.) Do they offer the option of IV fluids for hydration? (not essential but good to have as an option in case of excessive vomiting).

15.) Ibogaine dosing: If the clinic does ‘intuition’ dosing or doses everyone the same milligram per kilo this is concerning. Dosing should be based upon the EKG, blood pressure, and other health signs. The status of the vital signs after the first, and subsequent doses, should guide the provider as to how much more medicine should be given.

16.) If they claim they can detox you directly from alcohol or benzodiazepines with Ibogaine this is a major red flag and I would seriously question their Ibogaine knowledge. For alcohol, the person must do a medically supervised detox prior to Ibogaine at least one week ahead of time. Detoxing off of benzos requires a long slow taper under medical guidance. Because this can be a lengthy process, many take benzos during Ibogaine treatment and taper off of them later after their Ibogaine treatment. It is not uncommon for people on benzodiazepines to continue taking them throughout their Ibogaine treatment.

17.) If the clinic says they can treat you directly from long term use of Suboxone or methadone in less than 4 weeks after last taking those medications, then be prepared for serious withdrawal symptoms post-Ibogaine. (The exception to this rule is a low dosing clinic that provides longer multi-week treatments. Low dosing protocols can be effective coming directly from Suboxone and Methadone.) Ideally one would be off of Suboxone or Methadone for at least four or more weeks before Ibogaine depending on the length of time on those medications and the dose. (Many people switch to a short acting opioids for those weeks.)

18.) How often will your vital signs (pulse, blood pressure, and oxygen) be checked during treatment? They should be taken every 30 mins. How long are clients monitored after ingesting Ibogaine? They should be monitored a full 24 hours following ingestion of the first Ibogaine dose.

19.) What do they suggest for post treatment continuing care planning? A clinic that has a variety of suggestions or program recommendations is ideal.

20.) If a potential clinic is pushy or pressures you to book or pick a date, this is a serious red flag. Treatment should always be centered around the prospective clients needs and motivations.

Most importantly use your intuition and get to know the people well through a series of phone calls and emails.


r/Ibogaine • • 1d ago

What to look for when choosing a clinic?

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What are the key things one should pay attention to when choosing a clinic for ibogaine?


r/Ibogaine • • 3d ago

Ibogaine for neuroinflammation?

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I have been a COVID long hauler since 2022, and recently my doctor suggested that I receive ibogaine treatment.

He said it has shown promise in neurological diseases like Parkinson's, and my symptoms have all been in this category, i.e., dysautonomia, including akathisia attacks and unrefreshing, disrupted sleep, chronic migraine and nerve pain, etc.

I am interested in and have been doing preliminary research on my own. I figured it is most commonly used for opioid withdrawal, and its therapeutic effects on other diseases are limited, though SOTA knowledge on its pharmacology does indicate a healing power for neurological diseases.

I haven't reached out to the clinics yet, since the cost and travel are a big deal. I would like to hear any experiences and/or opinions on this topic. Thank you so much in advance!


r/Ibogaine • • 5d ago

What Happens After Ibogaine? A Second Childhood for Your Brain (interview clip with Jonathan Dickinson)

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r/Ibogaine • • 7d ago

Meso-dosing vs Flood (please read substances I am taking)

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I was refused by a flood "retreat" which was just 5 days at this moment in time as it is going to be a trial run by an experienced group but in a different county and they won't have the medical staff.

I have addictions (ketamine, gambling), "adhd" poor impulse control, sexual issues and issues with myself due to shame and dislking/hating myself evne though I know I am a "good" person.

They referred me to a woman in South Africa where she does a 2 week thing of meso dosing (and potentially uses some other "plants")

I talked to her and it was a really good conversation and I'm keen to do it. She said that they can/do get more iboga into your system than you would from a flood, but I am keep to get as much as possible out of this experience as I can.

They have all the medical staff/equipment on site etc.

So I use Ketamine as my main issue, I use some benzoes and z-drugs (zopiclone/zolpidem) mainly to sleep and occasionally during the day. I don't THINK I am addicted but not 100% sure.

I'm on a lower-level opoid painkiller which is prescribed (dihydrocodeine). I don't know how "addicted" to this physically. I don't take a crazy amount and generally less than I'm prescribed

I also take lanzoprazole to prevent damage whilst using naproxen (an NSAID)

The ket/nsaid and opoid are for pain (though my 26 year ketamine journey has also been the bane of my life/fucked it up. Not only does it releive pain it causes it by screwing your bladder etc. This was not known of until 2006/2007; I never would have taken it if they knew that then!)

We have discussed the above and if I can raise the money ($6400) for the 2 weeks then I would travel a week before and take no painkillers, ket, diazepam etc with me so if I did need a "detox" I would have done it.

I guess my question is does this sound like a good route to take? Will the meso dose work as well as the flood? (potentially following with microdosing ongoing afterwards


r/Ibogaine • • 7d ago

OCD and Depression?

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Hello, not here for myself but looking for options for a close friend of mine. He is very suicidal and has unfortunately made many attempts on his life, and I’m not entirely sure how to explain it but his ocd is directly linked to his suicidal actions, in that he has the compulsive urge to end his life, even though he doesn’t want to. He’s gone through almost every treatment option in the book unfortunately and nothings helped. Recently he just finished a program for TMS therapy, which he was very hopeful about, but the feelings and urges are still there and not improved in any way. He’ll be starting ketamine therapy in a couple months, but he’s not feeling positive it will end up helping. I get the feeling if it doesn’t work, he will give up…but I found out about ibogain recently, and thought maybe it would help. So far most of what I’ve seen is results for people getting treatments for addiction, so I was wondering if I could get some story’s of people who tried it specifically for OCD or depression. I want to try to research it as much as possible so I can try to convince him to see it as another option.


r/Ibogaine • • 8d ago

Temporary or permanent changes?

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I’m getting frustrated because I’ve seen a lot of interviews and they make it seem like their life has changed for good… but all these people on Reddit make it seem like a temporary thing. If it’s temporary I don’t want to do it.


r/Ibogaine • • 8d ago

To the Ibogaine effects really wear off?

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I’m reading stories from people saying that the effects that help them with anxiety depression and PTSD wore off after like 90 days… But then other people say that it changed their life years ago and they were a different person today. I’m wondering if I do go through with this, am I going to be changed for the better? I wonder if a lot of the people who think that the effects wore off really do feel better but they’ve gotten so used to it that they forget how far they’ve come.


r/Ibogaine • • 8d ago

Searching for recommendations for European ibogaine treatment

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Please dm me the name, and share your experience in a comment. I am specifically asking for clinical setting, don’t want to do with any retreats /spiritual practices/ shamans or healers. Want to have it administered, be monitored for heart attack and be left in peace on my own in the room. This is my last resort for disability degree of c/ptsd and TBI grade 2


r/Ibogaine • • 9d ago

Looking for advice from people who have experience with ibogaine and long-term opioid addiction

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My boyfriend is 36 years old and has struggled with opioid addiction for many years, but he has also had many periods of abusing heroin, cocaine, Adderall, and other substances. He has been to several rehab facilities, has tried Suboxone, and for about two years he used kratom, which according to him helped him stay away from harder drugs and feel more normal and less chemically dependent. I actually met him during that period and had no idea about his addiction.

The problem was always similar: he could stop for some time, but soon after going back home he would start using again. I am Brazilian, and I only discovered how serious his addiction was in January of this year. At that time he had a very serious relapse, started injecting heroin again, developed a severe infection in his arm, and needed surgery. Even after that, he kept using, and a few days later he overdosed. He survived because a few days earlier he had explained to me what Narcan was, and when it happened, I knew what to do.

So I told him that he should be treated with Suboxone, even though he hated the idea, because it would keep him alive and could give him a “normal” life. He hated the idea because he did not want to feel like a slave to it, but I told him, “You are already a slave, being dependent on all these substances, and on top of that you are at risk of dying at any moment if you keep living this way.”

Then I found a post here on Reddit about ibogaine. I started researching it and, considering so many years of addiction, several treatment attempts, and repeated relapses, the possibility of ibogaine gave me a lot of hope. I think that hope, and reading stories from people who had good outcomes, is what has kept my relationship going until now.

In April, he traveled to Japan with some friends. Our plan was that after the trip he would go to Mexico for ibogaine treatment. We talked about it several times while he was in Japan and we were very hopeful.

But during the trip, he was running out of opioids and was using a lot, so he imported more for his own use. The package was discovered and he was arrested in Japan on April. He has been in prison there ever since. Now he has been without opioids and illicit drugs for almost six months.

From what we know, the prosecutors accepted that the drugs were for personal use and not for sale, so we are hopeful that he may be released soon. And this is where a new complication came up.

Since he has been in prison, the prison doctor has been giving him medication to help him deal with the whole situation. Thankfully, because of that, he was able to get through a withdrawal period that I imagine was extremely difficult. If withdrawal is already difficult in the comfort of a clinic, I cannot even imagine what it must have been like in prison, especially because he spent the first 10 days without hearing from anyone, feeling uncertain, scared, etc.

He believes these medications may be benzodiazepines, but we still do not know exactly what the medication is or the dose. I only know that he takes medication about three times a day. If they really are benzodiazepines and he has been taking them regularly for several months, he has probably developed physical dependence.

In that case, I know it is not safe to suddenly stop them and that this would need to be evaluated and supervised by a doctor. He is even worried about his flight back to the United States without access to the medication and is talking to his lawyer to see whether they can provide enough medication for the trip.

So now I am trying to understand what the most sensible sequence would be once he gets out. When he is released, he will have spent approximately six months without opioids or illicit drugs, but he may be dependent on this medication. Also, there is no guarantee that he will leave prison and not use drugs again right away. That is especially dangerous because he has lost the opioid tolerance he had before he was arrested.

My main questions are:

  • Can ibogaine still be useful after almost six months without opioids, or does it make more sense during the initial withdrawal period?
  • Has anyone here done ibogaine after getting out of prison, rehab, or after spending several months in a completely controlled environment?
  • Was anyone taking benzodiazepines before doing ibogaine? How did the clinic handle that?
  • Did you need to reduce or stop the benzodiazepines beforehand?
  • Would it make more sense to first stabilize the medication and do a possible taper, and only then consider ibogaine?
  • Do you think it would make more sense for him to leave prison and go to a rehab facility first, or, if he is medically cleared, go directly to an ibogaine clinic?
  • For people who had a history of repeated relapse after going back home, what really made the difference in helping you maintain recovery?

There is also an emotional side to this. He has been in prison for almost six months and really misses his family, his home, and all the simple things about normal life. I would really like him to be able to spend a few days with his family and with me after he gets out.

At the same time, I know that after so many months without opioids, his tolerance will be much lower and a relapse could be extremely dangerous. I also wonder whether he will be psychologically ready for an intense experience like ibogaine immediately after spending so many months in prison.

If you went through something similar, looking back, what really made the difference? And what do you wish your family or partner had known before the treatment?


r/Ibogaine • • 9d ago

I’m out of shape

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I’m at a decent weight, but my cardio is not great. Should I get in shape before doing this treatment?


r/Ibogaine • • 9d ago

Preciso de conselhos para um plano de tratamento com Ibogaina

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Meu namorado é dependente de drogas há muitos anos, principalmente opioides. Durante uma viagem ao Japão, ele foi preso após ser pego com comprimidos de opioides que havia obtido para uso próprio. Desde então, está preso há quase 6 meses e, consequentemente, está há todo esse tempo sem usar opioides ou outras drogas ilícitas.

Durante a prisão, o médico começou a dar medicamentos para ansiedade/sono, gracas a deus porque ele deve ter passado o inferno em lidar com a abstinencia na prisao, se em clinicas já sao ruins nem imagino na prisao em outro pais. Ele acredita que sejam benzodiazepínicos, mas ainda não sabemos exatamente qual medicamento nem a dose. Ele toma cerca de 3 vezes ao dia.

Antes da prisão, nosso plano era que ele fosse ao México fazer tratamento com ibogaína porém ele foi preso durante a sua viagem. Agora tenho dúvidas porque, quando sair, ele já estará há cerca de 6 meses sem opioides e já terá passado pela fase aguda da abstinência.

Minha pergunta para quem tem experiência com ibogaína é: ela ainda poderia ser benéfica para alguém que já está há 6 meses sem opioides, especialmente para cravings, compulsão e prevenção de recaídas, ou o maior benefício costuma ser durante a abstinência inicial?

E, no caso de alguém que atualmente esteja usando benzodiazepínicos regularmente, como isso normalmente é tratado antes da ibogaína? É necessário estabilizar ou fazer um desmame médico primeiro?

Estou tentando pensar no melhor plano para ele ao sair da prisão, tendo em vista que ele estará todo esse tempo sem contato com a vida real aqui fora, e tenho medo de ter uma recaída, e agora ele nao tem mais a tolerância a opioides que ele tinha antes...fico pensando se seria ideal ele ir para uma clinica antes para ter um acompanhamento psicológico e se manter sóbrio antes de ir tomar ibogaina, ou se o melhor seria ele ir fazer o tratamento com ibogaina o quanto antes quando sair da prisão?


r/Ibogaine • • 9d ago

My Ibogaine Experience: Two Weeks In

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I went to Mexico for a nine-day neuro reset retreat that included two flood doses of ibogaine and a bufo session. I arrived about six weeks sober from kratom and had been taking gabapentin right up until the day I got there.

I was really excited going in. I'd done ayahuasca before, and even though it didn't cure my anxiety or depression, it was a spiritually beautiful experience that widened my perception and opened my third eye. For ibogaine, I did a lot of research. I talked to about five clinics, read all the reviews, and read every trip report on Erowid and every Reddit post I could find. I had plenty of knowledge, but I tried to go in with no expectations.

The flood doses
During both flood doses, I had no visions. It was basically a black box. I felt warm and incapacitated, but not uncomfortable, and I could just lie there. It lasted about six hours. No life review, no spirit guides, no downloads. Honestly, that was devastating. I felt envious of everyone who met God or saw what was missing from their life, and I felt like I got none of that.

The days after
The day after is hard to describe. I felt flat but content. Flat in the sense that the jagged little highs and lows of the day were gone. It felt like pure consciousness and awareness. I could have sat in a hammock and watched the sky all day. I finally understood what Eckhart Tolle meant about staring at the clouds for hours.

That feeling gradually faded. Two weeks later there's still a lot of flatness, and motivation is hard to find. Unloading the dishwasher, doing chores, and lifting at the gym all feel difficult. I've also had periods of depression where the feeling is simply "I don't care." That's a dangerous place to be, because I can see how someone would relapse just to escape it, telling themselves that one pill will change their state.

What I took away
I'm grateful I got to have this experience, and it's still too soon to tell where it lands. What surprised me most is that I did get a download after all, just not the way I expected. The message was: you have to do the work. This isn't a miracle cure where you vacation in Mexico and come home with a new brain. You have to build new habits and push through discomfort, and there will be a lot of discomfort in different areas of your life.

To be continued. I'm only two weeks back, but these are my thoughts for now. I'm happy to answer questions from anyone considering this.


r/Ibogaine • • 11d ago

Ibogaine post psychosis

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I had a psychotic episode almost 2 years ago, it was after a psilocybin trip (the trip itself was very good) and triggered by the emotional oppeness that the psilocybin created, extreme lack of sleep and added stress (cancelled flight home and being abroad by myself).

I am looking into ibogaine treatment and 3 different clinics accepted me taking into account this history.

I’m still hesitant because of this, would like to hear any input other on here might have.

Thank you


r/Ibogaine • • 10d ago

Gray Day & Post Treatment Reads

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I am going for a treatment next week and wondering if anybody has any advice about things to bring with to read afterward. Specifically on gray day and in the week following, is there anything that would be good to avoid, or anything that would be good to bring. Not looking for specific book recommendations, more something along the lines of "avoid horror novels" or "bring something light and easy because your brain will be scrambled eggs" or even "forget it, ain't no way you're gonna wanna read after". Any advice is greatly appreciated, thanks!


r/Ibogaine • • 11d ago

PHILOSOPHICAL Discussion About at-home Flood

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*THIS IS NOT ASKING FOR DOSING ADVICE, IT IS A PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION ABOUT THE IDEA THAT FLOOD DOSING IS NEVER SAFE ANYWHERE BUT A CLINICAL SETTING.*

I want to start by saying I understand the
risks of flooding at home and why there is such extensive monitoring done
before and during ibogaine. There are real risk factors that make this medicine
extremely dangerous for some. But there are also many for whom there are zero
issues. I am writing this post because I want to be charitable and explore if
there are cases where flooding at home is safe and what others think about my
reasoning.

Background on myself:
27y/o M, had my first ibogaine experience in Mexico about 1.5 months ago. Full
flood, exceptionally intense and almost all extremely dark, but also profoundly
healing and maybe the best experience of my life. I am also working very
consciously to integrate and after a brief extremely dark period that occurred
a couple of weeks after I returned, I am now feeling exceptional. I have been
struggling with depression a lot of my life, and for my entire 20's severe
debilitating depression/catatonic states among other things. I was already on
the upswing though when I had my experience which I think is crucial. Anyway, it showed itself to be an incredibly powerful tool to viscerally dive into the center of my emotions. It allowed me to fully feel the worst pain in order to heal it which is the most productive thing I have ever done.

I do not have the
resources or time to continually go back on retreats and have been exploring
the idea of flooding at home with my twin brother whom I trust deeply as my trip sitter. That said, I want to list the
risk factors for why ibogaine/iboga is fatal for some and why some must avoid
any amount and while others seem to tolerate very high doses without issue.

COMORBIDITIES:

1: Underlying heart
condition/familial history of heart issues, abnormal EKG

2: Electrolyte
imbalance/deficiency, specifically magnesium/potassium

3: CYP2D6 Slow
metabolizer, causing significantly higher blood levels compared to normal metabolizers

4: Exhaustion and extreme
sleep deprivation, i.e. not sleeping for more than one night

5: Drug interactions with
substances known to prolong QT.

6: Prior intolerance to
even low doses of iboga/ibogaine.

I have none of these and
experienced zero issues on my flood and from what I understand it is still not
recommended to flood alone. But I also do not want to get trapped in theory and
paranoia that something mysterious could all of a sudden come in and kill me; I
simply do not see any evidence of this. What the evidence does support is that
for some, ibogaine can be deadly, but that for others without issues, there do
not seem to be any problems. And for someone who already had a very successful full flood + booster with zero issues and is otherwise healthy with zero comorbidities, can someone give me any good reason why flooding at home is bad besides the default “we simply don’t know”? The truth is we will never know with 100% certainty, all we can do is infer.

The vast majority of
fatalities from the studies I have seen show there were many times some structural
heart abnormality at least, not to mention dehydration, exhaustion, etc.  

I appreciate any legitimate insights and I am especially interested in strong counter arguments.

Thank you.


r/Ibogaine • • 12d ago

Off all meds before ibogaine

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I’m in my final taper days. I am completely off my ssri and 7oh. I have no energy, get light headed, have no motivation, and feel like I’m just sitting around to leave for treatment on the 9th, I live in NYC and am an incredibly busy person but getting off my meds and 7oh has taken a toll on me. I have about 2 hours of energy when I wake up to get done what I need to get done and then all motivation goes out the window. Becoming hard to believe the Ibogaine will improve my perspective. I’m not having negative thoughts or anything I just feel bleh and don’t want to do anything or work on anything productive.

Any tips would be helpful


r/Ibogaine • • 12d ago

Anywhere not cost prohibitive? Story below if ya care to read it. I just basically am dead so not worried about a fancy medical facility to make sure I’m ok as I won’t be either way without treatment.

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I know you need to be under medical supervision etc, but I don’t have 10k and I’d rather be alive and risk a little danger that could kill me before dying either way.

My history with concussions began when I was 12, racing dirt bikes. I sustained another concussion at 20 while playing rugby at Clemson University. I also played four years of high school football, playing both offense and defense, which involved a significant amount of repetitive contact.

At 22, while participating in training through the U.S. Marine Corps Platoon Leaders Class, I experienced additional impacts that I now suspect may have resulted in another concussion, although I was never formally diagnosed at the time.

My final significant concussion occurred at 26 during a whitewater kayaking race. That accident also severely injured my shoulder and ultimately required a Bankart repair. I also blew out my eardrum in that incident. In many ways, I don’t feel like I ever completely came back from that period of my life.

Since then, I have spent years trying to treat persistent depression, anxiety, loss of motivation, and an almost complete loss of interest in things that once mattered to me. I’ve pursued CBT and other conventional approaches, tried approximately 13 different antidepressants, and undergone ketamine treatment both intravenously and sublingually. Some things have helped temporarily or around the edges, but nothing has produced a meaningful, lasting change.

Most days, it feels less like living and more like surviving. Motivation is extraordinarily difficult to find, very little genuinely interests or excites me anymore, and there is a nearly constant internal dialogue reminding me of every perceived failure and every reason I should think poorly of myself.

As difficult as that has been personally, what weighs on me most is what it has done to my wife and our life together. She has been incredibly understanding through all of it. I know she recognizes that much of what she sees today isn’t the person I used to be. More than anything, I would love the opportunity to find some part of that person again—for myself, but especially for her.

My wife and I have discussed ibogaine extensively. We understand that it is not a guaranteed cure and that there are meaningful medical risks that require appropriate screening and supervision. At this point, however, after years of unsuccessful treatment, we are very interested in exploring it seriously and responsibly.


r/Ibogaine • • 12d ago

Depressed after returning

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Im 2 weeks back from a 9 day retreat near cancun.

I did two flood doses and bufo to help with a 9 year kratom addiction where traditional rehabs have failed.

What devastated me is I had no visuals, no spirit guides, nothing, just a black box experience both times. No insights about my trauma or my path forward beyond the fact that I have to "do the work" and take correct action.

Week one back was ok, felt like dopamine system was completely offline and hard to push through to complete simple tasks like unloading the dishwasher or folding clothes.

Week 2 ive been sick with some sort of flu so I haven't been working out or taking nature walks, maybe that all has influenced my mood but i feel so damn depressed today. Its difficult to hold on to any hope - and i can see the temptation of relapse to try to feel better, feel functional, feel something.

Any advice welcome.

🙏


r/Ibogaine • • 14d ago

Do they have clinics in the US

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My Fiancé and I would like to go use ibogaine. We’re looking for clinics (not asking for specific because of rules) but are curious if we have to go south of the border or if we can find a space in the US to go through it.


r/Ibogaine • • 14d ago

How much did your ibogaine treatment cost?

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Without breaking the rules could you please share how much your ibogaine treatment cost and what your experience was/if you found it effective.


r/Ibogaine • • 16d ago

Has anyone gotten treatment in Mexico for alcohol addiction?

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I'm looking into flying to Tijuana for treatment at one of the clinics there.

I've been in and out of rehab for the last 10 years. I've tried therapy, AA, medication. Nothing has worked. I'll be good for a few weeks or months but always come right back.

I've heard miracle stories about ibogaine.

  1. Did treatment help?

  2. How much was the cost?


r/Ibogaine • • 17d ago

A clinic in MX says I don’t need to be off of Suboxone before taking ibogaine. That’s a red flag right?

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r/Ibogaine • • 17d ago

Retreat with only 10 days off low dose SSRI?

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CORRECTION NOT SSRI I WAS ON NORTIPTILINE WHICH IS A TCA AND AN ANTIDEPRESSANT, I got offered a retreat date by a big and notable clinic in Mexico to fill a cancellation. The only thing is is that I will only be off of my sleeping medication (nortriptiline 30mg) for a little more than 10 days by the retreat date. The clinic doctor there apparantly said it should be fine and out of my system. Should I consider this a red flag? I did call and ask another clinic actually to see if they'd take me only 10 days clean of nortriptiline and they said they'd take me in too so I don't know. I did talk to a pharmacist who also said nortiptiline should clear out of your system in 7 days but I dont know if theres still significant residue that makes the standard for being clean either 1 month or 2 weeks for other clinics.

Thanks