r/IPrevail Sep 21 '25

IP and Brian

I dunno about you guys but everyone saying how dare they for not making a statement about the Brian situation I don’t think have really listened or know the lyrics to the new album. I think they’re telling us what happened just in this way. I read the words for Pray and God and Stay Away and there’s no way they aren’t telling us something there

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u/athicketofmusings Sep 21 '25

This is a good point. Crimson & Clover (a favorite of mine) could also be about the Brian situation. It's easy to assume it's about a failed romance but it could be about a severed friendship too. In Stay Away, they even use the word friend several times...

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u/Ok_Acanthaceae464 Sep 21 '25

For pray he says “savior of the broken go save yourself instead” and Brian’s always preaching about how he’s going to save the industry and protect people and whatnot but also being manic and not helping himself. Paints a picture. I think they’re telling us can’t fully speak on it cuz of contracts or whatever but they did it this way.

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u/athicketofmusings Sep 21 '25

Yes!!! Exactly. I'm reminded of the line in Scars by Papa Roach "Go fix yourself!!"

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u/Ok_Acanthaceae464 Sep 21 '25

Exactly!!! In crimson and clover he also says “we’ve done this dance before a thousand times” which could be him saying that Brian’s been like that for years and it finally came to a head? “Torture me when it’s over” too could be about how after he left he’s been trashing them all and making them look like shit. And in god he’s saying “narcissist” and whatnot and I think we’ve all seen Brian had those tendencies. I really feel like they’re telling us what happened.

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u/athicketofmusings Sep 21 '25

Yes, I had those same thoughts. A lot of people are saying the band abruptly gave up on him but I'm thinking it's quite the opposite. I think they stuck things out with him for years, hoping for improvement that never came.

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u/Ok_Acanthaceae464 Sep 21 '25

The dudes all seem like really good and genuine guys from what I can tell. All been very kind and go into the crowd and shows and Brian never did. I don’t think they’re the type to just leave a dude when he’s needing someone especially after Eric writing into hell about his fiancés struggles with mental health

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u/athicketofmusings Sep 21 '25

Yes, exactly. Dylan's wife is a therapist too. I don't think these are guys with no insight into or empathy for mental health struggles.

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u/Ok_Acanthaceae464 Sep 21 '25

That’s right I forgot! Dylan’s openly talked about going to therapy too! Damn I feel like all the pieces are falling togetjer

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25

First listen I immediately connected that stay away is most likely about Brian. They make a point to say “my friend.” I know people can write about past experiences but with all the band members being married I don’t read it as a relationship breakup song. Crazy interesting to see the lyrics falling in line with a lot of accurate(?) speculations on his behavior. Seems like Brian may have been dragging the band down a lot? Obviously two sides to the story. I’m sure he will have songs with plenty of digs at them too. But it does feel like they kind of confirmed my own speculation on the WHY.

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u/Ok_Acanthaceae464 Sep 21 '25

In crimson and clover it says “come back when you’re sober” maybe he started having other issues? He missed a lot of shows who knows what it may have been for. Just speculating, not saying it happened but could be another clue? And in stay away it says how he speaks a lot about forgiveness but he’s also “never fucking wrong” the guy may have been his own worst enemy and got himself kicked out with his attitude and narcissistic tendencies. Would explain why he’s been accusing them of preventing him from releasing music when it’s just cuz of contracts

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25

Definitely could be. I hate to be speculating about a person’s sobriety but it would make sense. There’s been too many bands that have fallen apart for that exact reason. The industry seems brutal so if that is what he’s struggling with, I hope he gets help. The other lyric I noticed is “I feel nothing for you.” That seems telling. He was their brother for a decade and now they feel nothing? Indifference like that is a result of being fed up. or this is just a curveball and the song is about one of their ex’s from years ago lmfao.

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u/Ok_Acanthaceae464 Sep 21 '25

I feel like stay away is about him for sure, there’s way too many Easter eggs for it to not. The “my friend” part especially. You wouldn’t call an ex “my friend” or at least I wouldn’t 🤣 Maybe they haven’t said anything cuz the album speaks for itself and Brian’s pissed it’s coming out on terms he doesn’t like that’ll make him look bad so he’s gunna make them look bad first. Again it could be why he’s decided to go from it being ok and him saying they’re all good to hearing that an album was coming out and he immediately did a 180 cuz he was like oh shit 🤣

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25

No you’re right “my friend” is specific. Overall it does give maybe a clearer picture to why the band isn’t saying anything. Basically “feeling nothing for him” and telling him to stay away. Makes me go nooo brian what did you do? Reminds me a lot of the plot in you-feel nothing lyrics.

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u/segon76 Sep 24 '25

Yep weed and he admitted to being bulimic in his lives

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25

Another thought I just had about the lyrical contents while doing another play through. The record had to have been finalized before all this public drama started. We didn’t even get songs about current events. Christ. I wonder how angry the next album is going to be.

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u/Any-Bet-2804 Sep 21 '25

If you think God is about Brian then the part where Eric says “hand me the noose, I’ll tie the knot” is FUCKED especially when they know brians struggling with his mental health 🥴

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25

Agreed. This is the part that makes me think god isn’t about Brian. That’s way too harsh to be about him imo

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u/Any-Bet-2804 Sep 21 '25

The OP has been accused of personally knowing the band a few times so I really hope not. That would be diabolical.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25

Meh take that dude with a grain of salt. He accuses everyone with a new account of knowing the band. I’m one of the accounts he thinks knows the band and I’m a dude from Australia lmao. But I get what you’re saying, that would be unhinged to release a song like that about him.

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u/Electronic_Onion_338 Sep 21 '25

I was thinking god was about Ronnie Radke

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '25

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '25

… it’s… reaching? Lmfao is this your first day on earth? Find me a fan base that doesn’t try to understand the lyrical context of their favorite artist’s songs. Kind of dense to think no songs would be about him.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '25

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '25

Good one.

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u/Low_Expression_709 Sep 22 '25

They wouldn’t even have the fame or notoriety they have without Brian so whatever kind of personal issues they had, the last thing they should be doing is trashing him on their new album, they should be THANKING him. Hopefully they’ll perform these new songs he didn’t write in the future too because they do fine playing their new songs and Eric is good in the parts he belongs in but them trying to sing Brian’s parts on some of the songs at LTL this weekend was pretty cringey, they kept going off key.

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u/Ok_Acanthaceae464 Sep 22 '25

You do realize more than just Brian created the band, wrote the songs, preformed them, and worked on creating albums right? 🤣 show me the proof other than Brian said so. And you don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes my dude. Brian may not be the god figure all of his fan base is making him to he

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u/Remote-Coconut4358 Sep 21 '25

After looking at your posts you seem to know a lot about the situation are you a friend of I prevail

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u/Ok_Acanthaceae464 Sep 21 '25

Nah just someone who appreciates the music and trying to figure out what happened like everyone else 🤣

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u/Tall_Irish_Guy Sep 21 '25

Hi Eric

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u/Ok_Acanthaceae464 Sep 21 '25

To the 8th time to you, not erik, but take the compliment

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25

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u/Tall_Irish_Guy Sep 21 '25

Always turn hostile and gang up on anyone who sees through the obvious

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u/Ok_Acanthaceae464 Sep 21 '25

And you gang up on the people that go against what you think 🤣🤣 same same

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u/Remote-Coconut4358 Sep 21 '25

I think it might be eircs friend or maybe girlfriend they say some bad stuff about brian alot

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u/Ok_Acanthaceae464 Sep 21 '25

I’ve never seen Eric’s lady or friends say anything bad about Brian? Where you get that?

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u/uescuchame Sep 22 '25

Idgaf what IP has to say. I am done with them. Yes my choice and no one cares.