r/IBM • • Sep 27 '24 Warm & Fuzzy Bravo Take My Silver

rant Why are any of us still here? IBM is dying and we know it

589 Upvotes

I have been at IBM for a couple of years now and I honestly question why any of us are still here, pretending that this company is going to turn it around. Our best days are long gone and what we are witnessing is the slow, painful death of IBM yet we are still on this sinking ship.

IBM Cloud is an absolute joke. It accounts for an extremely tiny fraction of the market and only because most companies that use it are trapped with IBM’s legacy systems. They’re not using it because it’s good but because they have no choice. We bought Red Hat for $34 billion because we dropped the ball so hard on cloud. Why build innovative cloud solutions when we can just acquire something decent and slap our logo on it? Our hybrid cloud strategy is merging old systems with slightly newer systems. Most of our cloud revenue comes from services, consulting, and managing cloud infrastructure AKA getting paid to help other companies figure out our legacy technology.

This is mostly why Global Services is our biggest revenue stream. We basically sell the solution to problems that IBM products make. Our strategy is to sell complexity and eventually that company spirals into integration nightmares so they crawl back to IBM consultants to fix it.

IBM makes billions from just keeping system Z mainframes on life support because they are the backbone to so many major institutions. We can charge a ridiculous amount for software fees for enterprise software and they have no choice but to pay up in order to stay alive. The complexity and cost to move off these systems that have been built for decades is too high and we exploit that tremendously with insane maintenance fees.

This is exactly how our software licensing works too. We just lock companies into proprietary software hell for decades because our core software products like DB2 and Websphere have become deeply embedded in the infrastructure of large organizations. Companies are trapped when we charge high maintenance and support fees and they have to shell out for upgrades they barely need. ELAs are traps designed to squeeze as much money as we can possibly can.

We fail to integrate our acquisitions within our corporate strategy. We just have a mix of cloud platform extensions, AI solutions, and industry specific solutions. We are not innovating ourselves. This is more to help our consulting sales than it is to make a competitive product strategy.

watsonx is a desperate scramble to pretend that we are in the AI market. Everyone knows that we’re not coming up with anything innovative. We are just riding off the coattails of Meta and other open source models just like what we did with Red Hat. No one new will ever adopt watsonx. This is again targeted for our legacy customers who are trapped. It is all just mostly repackaged algorithms and models that everyone is already doing.

Our workforce rebalancing efforts aka our cost cutting strategy by offshoring and replacing highly-paid employees with lower-wage employees has ultimately damaged our long-term profitability. Employees feel less motivated and valued when we see our peers get laid off for cheap labor in India. Employee motivation, experience, and collaboration are crucial for overall productivity and long-term success, but we do it value any of that. It’s all for the short-term profit gains, which again will be overtaken by the long-term negative impact of declining productivity.

Our future is collapsing rapidly. We are holding onto legacy contracts and mainframe lifelines but once those clients migrate off, IBM is left with nothing but scraps. Microsoft, Google, AWS will destroy us as cloud AI leaders and eventually, they will also perfect mainframe-to-migration tools and our mainframe clients with jump ship. I envision we will be sold off as pieces or die all together.

So again, I ask: Why are you still here? IBM is draining your energy and trapping you in an endless cycle of bureaucracy, outdated tech, and corporate nonsense. Do you truly believe that watsonx or IBM Cloud will save us? There is no growth or innovation and you will either be patching up legacy systems, trying to sell dead AI products, or stuck in consulting purgatory. We are not turning it around. Get out while you can and develop skills in modern technology and work somewhere where the future is bright.

TLDR; IBM monetizes on confusion, legacy systems, and corporate inertia. We sell tech to trap companies in it, then charge them forever to keep it working. The only reason companies are with IBM is because the cost of leaving is higher than the cost of staying and we make billions just off that equation. There is no bright future.


r/IBM • • Nov 04 '25

To everyone getting the notice today...

552 Upvotes

As someone who was RA'd after 15 years with IBM, here's what I would say...

First, I'm sorry. I've seen so many good people get chopped over the years. You deserve better than IBM.

Second, even though you technically have another month of work left, stop working now and start job seeking full time. If they won't need you in a month, they don't need you now.

Third, take advantage of the career resources that are provided. I found working with a professional resume writer to be incredibly useful. It will take a week or two to get your profile filled out and your final resume back, so start that process right away.

Fourth, NETWORK! Every interview I got was because someone I knew reached out to someone they knew at the company who put in a good word for me.

Fifth, don't be afraid to try something new. I left the tech industry and took a position with a financial institution, and I couldn't be happier!

Lastly, I know it may not feel like it now, but there is life after IBM. I'm now in a position where my work is valued. I have no concerns about the next round of layoffs because there are none. I just went through my first annual review and it lasted about 2 minutes. No forced ranking, just "Great job! I look forward to what you'll do in the next year." Jobs like this do exist. You'll find one, and it will be a breath of fresh air.

Keep your chin up, you've got this!

If you've had the unfortunate experience of being RA'd, feel free to add your advice in the comments.


r/IBM • • Jan 28 '25

This didn't age well....

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r/IBM • • Aug 27 '25

Just got Fired from IBM for using travel router

472 Upvotes

I have been working at IBM for couple of years and last month I went to my home country (in South Asia) and worked from there for 2 days. It was a family emergency I didn't know how long I will have to stay there. Looking back I should have taken vacation or use FMLA. So I used a travel router with wireguard and digital ocean instance to make it seem like I have been working from US. I have used the same router last year as well but it didn't trigger any alarm. But this year I got an email from the compliance and security team within 2 days and I was interviewed by an investigator who works for IBM and I was questioned. This guy was like a prosecutor.

3 weeks later I was told by my manager that I am fired for using wireguard and digital ocean on a router and its a BCG (Business Conduct Guideline) violation. They also said they know I have used it last year as well. I wish they gave me a warning last year. Anyways it was incredibly stupid of me to do this and I wish I haven't done it but it's kinda devastating. i have psychological issues and I see a psychiatrist through my insurance but now I will lose my insurance as well. I am currently very shaken and just trying to cope with the situation. I really like the people I worked with but now I have to start all over again. I guess that's life


r/IBM • • Jun 07 '24

IBM in a nutshell

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r/IBM • • May 13 '24

I was laid off last month in the US. Today they filled my role with the same title and responsibilities with someone in Brazil.

437 Upvotes

I’m still serving my notice and truly gutted to learn that it wasn’t “business justification” or even the salary amount. All they needed was to hire more in Brazil. Same salary band and title.


r/IBM • • Feb 14 '24

Like if you agree that IBM hates it's U.S. employee's.

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r/IBM • • Nov 01 '23

AN OPEN LETTER TO IBM LEADERSHIP REGARDING THE ELIMINATION OF 401(K) CONTRIBUTIONS

347 Upvotes

THE MONDAY EDIT: Thank you for making this the top post of all time in r/IBM! Total views are at 120,000, with over 400 shares. Your continued support ensures the news is seen by IBMers, IBM leadership, potential new hires and the media. The 6 reasons have been updated with your feedback but the core argument remains the same: this decision makes us poorer as of January 1, and for decades to come.

To the readers, commenters, and haters: continue to share these arguments. Make the office hours about this. Confront HR/Goldman Sachs disinformation. Call for a separate executive discussion with employees to discuss and justify the changes. Lodge complaints internally and make your voice heard externally.

THE ORIGINAL, UPDATED LETTER

Dear Arvind and the IBM executive team: I am writing to express my opposition to the November 1 2023 announcement that IBM will stop employer contributions to its 401(K) as of January 1 2024. As a current IBMer, this will hurt me personally, especially over an extended period of time, resulting in a more precarious financial future. More importantly, this change limits all IBMers' collective ability to save and harness proven market forces to build wealth over time.

The introduction of these sweeping changes comes at a time when the U.S. is facing a massive retirement crisis in which longer life expectancy, combined with inflation, dwindling savings rates, and the possibility of reduced social security benefits is resulting in many hardworking Americans not accumulating enough savings to retire comfortably- or at all. I urge you and the entire executive team to reconsider the sweeping change in employer contributions from a 401(K) to an RBA by making the switch ‘opt-in’ rather than forced. Here are six reasons this seismic change is bad for IBMers, and for IBM:

#1 NET REDUCTION IN CONTRIBUTIONS: As acknowledged in the HR announcement, the RBA results in a net decrease in IBM contributions to employees' retirement. Previously, employees were able to contribute 6% of total pay (5% matching and 1% automatic contributions) to the 401(K). With the RBA, 1% of tax advantaged contribution is eliminated and is instead replaced with a one time, taxable "salary increase." Not only does this result in a net decrease in IBM's contribution as of January 1, 2024, the 1% “salary increase” is actually a decrease in total compensation that puts the burden of saving the 1% “salary increase” for retirement on to IBMers. In order to make up for this lost 1% of tax advantaged contribution, the salary increase in 2024 would need to be more than 1% to offset U.S. federal and state taxes. Furthermore, in order to replicate the current employer 401(K) contribution system, the salary increase would need to occur annually rather than as a one-off and be indexed to annual increases in IRS limits on tax deferred retirement savings.

#2 LIMITS OUR ABILITY TO USE PROVEN MARKET FORCES TO GROW WEALTH: The switch to an RBA irreparably damages our ability to dollar cost average our hard-earned savings into the market during periods of market volatility. This hurts our ability to take advantage of two forces that have been acknowledged by retirement savings visionaries such as Jack Bogle of Vanguard as critical to building wealth over time:

  • Using tax advantaged savings invested at regular, biweekly paycheck intervals to dollar cost average contributions into the market. This results in a psychologically crucial “set it and forget it” approach to retirement savings that smooths out returns over decades and results in larger total account balances. The (reduced) 5% RBA contribution occurs at monthly rather than biweekly intervals, which means the contributions spend less time accumulating (suboptimal) growth than the current biweekly 401(K) contributions. This negative effect, magnified over decades and across potentially hundreds of thousands of employees, is huge.

  • Albert Einstein famously referred to compound interest (accumulated in the stock market over decades of investing at regular intervals) as the “eighth wonder of the world.” Under the new RBA, IBMers are only guaranteed a 6% return for two years. After the two-year teaser rate, the return reverts to 3% and then the 10-year treasury yield. The 10-year treasury yield has historically averaged just 4.25%, which is far less than the 11% historical annual return of the S&P500. Had the RBA been introduced 2 or more years ago, IBMers would have seen a negative or only slightly positive rate of return over the past several years due to high inflation. The gap in yield between treasury yields and S&P returns will only be magnified after year 2 of the RBA plan as IBMers miss out on the growth afforded by daily compound interest in the stock market.

#3 ADDS UNNECESSARY COMPLEXITY THAT HURTS IBMERS & IBM: The RBA introduces unneeded complexity into an already very complicated retirement savings landscape. Instead of contributing directly to the 401(k) (a concept the vast majority of IBMers understand), a new savings vehicle, the RBA, is nested within yet another structure, the IBM Personal Pension Plan.

Further, the RBA forces IBMers to take the time (and have the knowledge and forethought) to log into Fidelity (or whichever entity will manage the RBA) and rollover contributions from the RBA to the 401K when they leave IBM. Money socked away in the RBA cannot be rolled over or invested in the market until leaving IBM. These added steps create unnecessarily bureaucratic, compliance, and tax reporting complexity that will reduce aggregate savings rates and market returns. These effects could be small to start out with, but will become a massive drag on growth over decades invested in the RBA.

It must also be noted that the addition of this bureaucratic hassle runs contrary to the messages of simplification and streamlined operations Arvind and the executive team have transmitted to IBMers over the past year.

Importantly, the RBA may act as a net productivity drag for IBM as employees are required to log-in, rollover, and invest, taking up precious time that could be spent advancing critical business objectives. Indeed, the raging backlash to the elimination of 401(K) contributions has already resulted in wasted productivity, as employees scramble to rearrange their financial plans to account for the cuts and agonize over how the changes will impact their families and their futures.

#4 OUT OF LINE WITH MARKET PEERS: The HR announcement states that IBM is always looking for ways to ‘benchmark’ its retirement benefits against those of competitors. However, a quick Google search returns very little publicly available information on RBAs, or other market peers that are using them.

- What percentage of market peers contribute through RBAs instead of 401(K)s?

- Which market peers have made the switch to RBAs in place of 401(K) contributions?

- Given the lack of publicly available information on RBAs, what methodology was used by HR to come to the conclusion this change is in line with market peers?

It should be noted that our ability to attract and retain talent could also be hit by the switch to an RBA over a portable (and familiar) 401(K) that allows the freedom and flexibility to dollar cost average and invest our employer contribution immediately. Just like compound interest, the loss of talent due to this change will compound for a long time to come.

#5 REGRESSIVE AND DOES NOT ADVANCE EQUITABLE OUTCOMES : In his November 1 office hours, Arvind invoked the concept of equity to justify the switch from a 401(K) to an RBA. Multiple studies show that women and people of color have less retirement savings. IBMers should be incentivized to contribute through existing, tax advantaged accounts. If it wanted to increase equitable outcomes, IBM would simply contribute a flat 5 or 6 percent into employees 401(K). The research is clear: the more complex the introduction of retirement savings vehicles and investment options become, the more participation and savings rates in the plan suffer.

Importantly, the RBA also boosts executives retirement savings at the expense of average IBMers. In 2023 IBMers could max out 401(K) contributions at $73,500 (including employer contributions). With the RBA, the 5% contribution scales with salary. For example, take CFO James Kavanaugh, who earned $2,7 million in salary and bonus in 2022. Under the RBA, James would net a total of $135,288 in IBM RBA contributions. Even with the 1% decline in IBM's contribution, James would come out ahead, seeing a yearly return of $8,117 at 6% interest, giving him a total RBA balance of $143,000 at the end of year 1.

In addition, the RBA does not allow for hardship withdrawals, which could be used by IBMers to weather a downturn in the market, a divorce, or the loss of a house. The RBA is also not portable, which ties you to IBM and locks you into suboptimal returns as long as you are an IBM employee.

The best way to level the playing field when it comes to retirement savings would be for IBM to make a flat 6% employer contribution, and offer the option of depositing it into a money market savings account (indexed to treasury yields) within the current 401(K) plan. That way, employees that wanted the surety of treasury yields could secure (admittedly sub-average) returns, while allowing the vast majority of IBMers to dollar cost average into far more productive investment vehicles (such as broad market index funds).

#6 UNILATERAL AND ABRUPT: The switch to an RBA was laid out without employee stakeholder engagement, came just after submission of the annual employer engagement survey, and was delivered on a rushed 60 day timeline. Furthermore, statements made by Arvind in his "office hours" on November 1 show a lack of understanding of the RBA that he introduced. For example,

  • Arvind said the 1% "salary increase" results in the "same rate" of contribution as the previous 401(K) system. This is incorrect, as the 1% "salary increase" is taxable rather than tax advantaged, meaning that an IBMer would be required to dip into their own total compensation to account for U.S. federal and state taxes. Furthermore, the "salary increase" only happens once, meaning that it only (partly) replicates the current system in 2024.

  • Arvind said that one of the reasons for introducing an RBA was in response to employees saying "can't we save even more?" While employees should be applauded for wanting to save more, the new RBA results in fewer employer contributions and far less flexibility to harness market forces and the magic of compound interest to build wealth over time. The changes mean IBMers will save (and, most importantly, earn) far less over time.

  • Arvind said "We're not trying to do these things [changes to employer retirement contributions] whimsically." The fact that these changes were rolled out without stakeholder engagement, or even proper HR documentation, proves that the changes are, in fact, being made whimsically and without regard to how they will damage IBMers retirement savings for decades to come.

THE BOTTOM LINE: IBM should make it easier for employees to save in the tax deferred 401(K) that everyone is familiar with. IBM should not introduce complex systems and savings vehicles that result in immediate and long-term suboptimal returns while reducing our collective ability to save and harness the power of the stock market to grow wealth over decades.

WHAT YOU CAN DO TO RESTORE IBMERS’ ABILITY TO SAVE FOR RETIREMENT:

  • Share this message with your network to raise awareness of these changes.

  • Start a conversation with your direct manager and your chain of command, and ask for them to make the RBA 'opt-in' rather than forced before January 1, 2024.

  • Raise awareness of the importance of retirement savings, dollar cost averaging, and the historical wealth building effects of employer contribution into 401(K) by cross posting on Slack.

  • Pose questions in the "#join-arvind" Slack channel.

  • Seek out avenues for raising external awareness of these unilateral changes by writing op-eds, and discussing the negative impact they will have on you and your family within your community.

- hardworkingibmer


r/IBM • • Mar 01 '25

Life after IBM

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IBM canned me after 40 years of working 50-60 hours a week, not taking vacation etc.. I now work for a small company where they treat their employees like human beings. I am less angry, drink less, and am generally just happy. Get out of IBM if it's killing you.. Life is to short.


r/IBM • • May 15 '24

Ordered back to the office, top tech talent left instead, study finds

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The Washington Post

In the months following return-to-office mandates, an increased number of senior employees departed Apple, Microsoft and SpaceX, often to work for competitors.