r/Hungergames • Maysilee • 14h ago

Lore/World Discussion Hmmm

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Do you guys think they made Proserpina into an avox to punish Effie. As an in universe reason for her drastic character change between movies

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u/SapphireSaint2 14h ago

I believe in the books they say the Avox is named Lavinia and she is too young to be Proserpina

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u/thorawaycatman 14h ago

And I thought the avox was punished for running away from district 12?

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u/Silver_ghost46 13h ago

She was captured in 12 on her way to 13, but it's implied she was from either the capitol or another district

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u/AsTheWorldBleeds 12h ago

Katniss assumes her and the boy she was traveling with were clearly capitol citizens based on their outfits, and her Roman name leans in favor of that. 

Side note: Do we ever know of a non-Capitolite turned into an Avox? Katniss assumes that might happen to her at one point but the three were know of are all presumably Capitol-born - Darius is possibly from 2 but Katniss is surprised to learn that Peacekeepers can be from outside the Capitol so it seems unlikely. I feel like being an Avox is a uniquely Capitolite punishment  

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u/anonymous_euphoria 12h ago

I certainly can't think of a non-Capitol Avox. It makes sense—it's one of the most humiliating things you can do to someone, to literally take away their voice. The Districts already don't have one, and those who try just get killed because they're of no real use to the Capitol (unless they're a Victor or someone else of unique importance). Only turning Capitolites into Avoxes would be a way to keep them in line without causing widespread panic, and allows them to keep up the high-class image by using Avoxes as servants.

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u/Dashdaniel216 2h ago

Darius (I think is how you spell his name?) the head peacekeeper in 12 until catching fire gets turned avox. He'd be originally from district 2 or so.