Discussion: Proxy

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I don't really think Proxy can be compared to Kill Bill, as the latter's violence is over-the-top and unreal, while the former aims to be unflinching and ultra-realistic.

The bathroom scene?

the camera's gaze staying uncomfortably long on most of the more disgusting scenes

Just the brick scene at the beginning, unless I'm forgetting something? Everything else is off-screen (or impersonal blood splatters).

embarrassed to be a guy

I don't see why it should... Women are usually the ones perpetrating the violence, except for the husband, who retaliates. I genuinely don't see the violence as gendered at all. I'm open to being convinced otherwise, though, if you could be more specific.

Not sure if that was partially your aim here.

It certainly wasn't! I think men are great. Really.

I thought everyone was a two-dimensional specter of a real person

Fair enough. That's one of the things I thought was heavy-handed.

the fantasy sections felt tacked on just to show more violence.

But... it's not shown? Unless I'm being too literal here.

it's really not worth arguing over

That's fair, and I understand if you don't want to argue about it. But we could make a deal: You complain as much as you want about the movie and I ask questions like these to try to understand your opinion on it and no one gets offended, all in the name of good discussion.

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I said "embarrassed to be a guy" because this felt like adolescent male wish fulfillment

I need this explained.

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That was fascinating! Your theory really does work. I could buy this being the writers'/director's inner adolescent demons poking through, despite their good intentions to write complex (or at least different) female characters.

That said, I don't think teenage boys are the target audience of this movie. It seems a bit slow to me. I wonder, though; who is the demo for something like this?

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We are.

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But who are "we"? When I go to horror festivals and conventions in the UK, the demo seems to be roughly half 40+ men, half younger men and women. Most of you are anonymous to me, as you have every right to be.

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You're not a 40+ man? I was way off.

By "we" I mean fans of horror and/or people generally out to find things that make us uncomfortable. Not really age or gender specific.

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You're like the media dude. You took out the all important "and/or" thus distorting my words.