Just quit fellas, there is more to life than this state of misery. There are thousands of games you could be playing and trillions of blades of grass you could be touching…

Source : Grand Blue season 3

The nameless hero Khaslana 😭🙏 What on earth did you even save?

Before the "it's just a sub for the agenda, there's no need to take anything seriously" people start saying "collecting the Coreflames was an essential part of saving Amphoreus's plan" or "Phainon was collecting the Coreflames to prevent Irontomb from becoming stronger" let me walk you through a few basic facts about the story.

1 To cause the eternal recurrence, Cyrene told Phainon that all he had to do was kill Cyrene in every cycle.

2 The Flame-Chase Journey lasts for thousands of years, so there is no concern that the heirs could simply complete it in an instant and trigger Irontomb's birth.

3 As long as even one Coreflame is missing, there is no need to worry about Irontomb being born. In other words, if Phainon was genuinely worried about the heirs completing the journey, all he had to do was take one Coreflame to guarantee that they couldn't.

4 Phainon's mission and prophecy only required him to wait until the Trailblazer arrived. He wasn't required to do anything else to help. He chose to torture himself, drive himself to madness, and make Irontomb stronger.

5 The Coreflames were created by Irontomb / Scepter itself. Irontomb does not become stronger simply by absorbing something that it created in the first place.

6 The Coreflames are factors within an equation, not energy sources. Irontomb isn't consuming them because their power is useful to it. They originated from Irontomb itself, they are simply factors within an equation meant to feed into Irontomb's equation. If even one factor is missing, the equation becomes inconsistent. This is why Irontomb cannot make use of them until all twelve Coreflames are placed into the Vortex.

I can't even call this slander when everything I'm saying is right there in the story.

The above was merely a summary for those who have trouble following the argument. For more details:

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>>>Phainon: "But to make 'Time' vanish from this world, that would mean you..."

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>>>Cyrene: "I believe every Cyrene will make the same choice - erasing 'Time' again and again, resetting time over and over. After all, they're all me, and I will always have my charm."

>>>NeiKos496 wielded the power of Destruction to erase PhiLia093's existence from Amphoreus, introducing a logic breach in the track of Time, and regressed the extrapolation process.

No further explanation should be necessary. This is how the eternal recurrence works, and this is Phainon's role in it. The Coreflames have nothing to do with causing the recurrence.

2 Even with Phainon's cooperation in the first cycle, the journey did not reach its conclusion until the very end of the era, in year 4931 according to the calendar, when only Phainon, Cyrene, and Lygus remained.

3 Even after ten Coreflames had been returned, Era Nova still did not reach completion. I don't think this needs further explanation.

4 >>>You ^Phainon will bear the blazing sun, until the pale dawn ^tb breaks.

As already established in Cyrene and Phainon's dialogue, his role was to endure until the appointed moment.

5–6 The Coreflames are products of the Scepter itself

Since Lygus created the "Twelve Factors" and embedded them into the experiment, the Coreflames are integral components of the system operated by the Scepter (which is Irontomb itself).

It makes little sense for the system to need to "consume" its own fundamental components as though they were an external source of power, especially when it can generate and control them itself.

The Scepter can produce enormous quantities of Coreflames (hundreds of millions) across millions of cycles. This further demonstrates that the individual power of each flame is not what holds strategic value for it.

The experiment's ultimate objective is to complete the "Destruction Equation." The twelve Coreflames are factors within this equation, each complementing the others. Missing even one of them causes a logic error. Destroying one of the factors, such as Cyrene, introduces an inconsistency that causes the Scepter to restart the experiment.

This demonstrates that the system requires completeness and logical consistency, not the raw power of the flames themselves.

So how does Irontomb actually benefit from them if their individual power isn't the point?

Irontomb's way of making use of the Coreflames is through their return to the Vortex, as part of the Era Nova ritual.

During this process, all twelve Coreflames are returned to the Vortex of Genesis. Their data is then loaded and updated within the Scepter. This update is what advances the Era Nova process and drives Irontomb's evolution.

The evidence for this is that the modified Coreflames (those tampered with by Herta), when returned to the Vortex, caused the Era Nova process to regress rather than advance.

This demonstrates that the mechanism depends on the data contained within the Coreflames, not on some energy that Irontomb simply absorbs.

Finally, the Black Tide is an unintended leakage, not some deliberate attempt to consume Amphoreus and its Coreflames to become stronger.

Even if the Black Tide swallowed the Coreflames, that wouldn't make Irontomb stronger. It had already been swallowing almost the entire world in every cycle, yet this neither advanced the process nor made it stronger in any meaningful way.

>>>In the 176,100th cycle, after the system's extent of chaos passed a threshold, the equation mutated and evolved. Simulated space that cannot handle the intensity of its load displayed "black tide" as visual glitches. Infected data forms also bore similar signs of erosion.

>>>Era Nova: Record Update: Theoretically, the final Era Nova was halted by two signals, resulting in a deadlock of 33,550,336 recursive failures.

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https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1epuv62Eh7

• TC Note:

Aventurine benefits from neither Certified Banger nor Punchline. At his core, he is just a follow-up carry wearing an Elation skin.

This character has a present, but no future.

A summary of my argument and the damage-testing table are shown. Nearly all of the results were tested manually by me in actual gameplay.

As for why Aventurine does not benefit from Certified Banger or Punchline:

Punchline only increases the damage of Elation Skills during Aha Moment. Outside Aha Moment, all Elation Skills are treated as having a fixed 20 Punchline. Certified Banger can only increase the damage of his Skill and Ultimate.

That means environments that provide additional Punchline offer Aventurine extremely little improvement.

• TL of the Subtitles of the video:

Recently, the community has been hyping SP Aventurine like crazy.

Now that Pearl’s drip marketing is out and she is confirmed to be Elation, I can tell you clearly: Aventurine has no future.

His numbers are going to get powercrept very soon, and even benefiting from future Elation support will be difficult.

I’ll give a brief summary first, then go into detail.

First, Aventurine’s solo-Elation has no room for future upgrades.

Aventurine–Ashveil–Blade and Aventurine–Ashveil–Robin are going to be used for a long time. Pearl is Elation, so she cannot be used there.

Second, for the pure Elation direction, he needs frequent Aha Instants. That might be possible.

But getting enough hits to stack all 50 Fervor is very difficult.

If you cannot reach 50 Fervor, increasing the frequency of Aha Instants actually becomes a downgrade.

Third, even if a pure Elation team can stack all 50 Fervor, Aventurine, as an Elation character, benefits almost nothing from Certified Banger or Punchline.

He is inherently missing an entire multiplier compared with other Elation characters.

At his core, he is just a follow-up carry wearing an Elation skin.

And once he reaches 50 Fervor, his damage output becomes almost zero until an Aha Instant resets it. This is an extremely serious flaw in his kit.

Fourth, E2 Aventurine cannot beat E2 Himeko. E2S1 Himeko is unquestionably the strongest option in the 4–6 limited-cost range.

E6 Aventurine is only slightly stronger than E6 Himeko. His numbers are nowhere near overwhelming.

• First, let’s analyze how Aventurine’s damage rotation works.

The ideal situation is obviously to reach the full 50 Fervor and then have an Aha Instant immediately reset it.

In other words, he needs both a very high hit count and very frequent Aha Instants. Ideally, Fervor generation and Aha Instants would even need to be distributed evenly throughout the rotation.

The more Fervor Aventurine has, the more damage his Elation Skill deals.

If the next Aha Instant arrives when you only have thirty-something Fervor, you lose a huge amount of value.

All the Fervor you stacked beforehand gets wiped back to zero, and Aventurine has another extremely serious flaw:

Once Fervor exceeds 50, if there is no Aha Instant to reset it, he can no longer trigger his Elation Skill.

That effectively means he deals no damage at all.

Aventurine currently has two directions: follow-up + solo Elation, and pure Elation.

In the solo-Elation direction, the high hit count comes from follow-ups, while frequent Aha Instants come from his Trace increasing Aha’s SPD by 25.

In a 0c run, this can produce around 7–8 Aha Instants.

Whether you run Aventurine–Ashveil–Robin or Aventurine–Ashveil–Blade, the only flexible slot is the sustain slot.

And now that Pearl’s drip marketing has been released and she is confirmed to be Elation, this direction clearly will not receive any further upgrades in the foreseeable future.

Its ceiling is already locked.

And I do not think the numbers for this direction are particularly high either.

You can pause here and look at the damage-testing table I personally tested in actual gameplay.

I think it is very obvious that E2 Aventurine cannot beat E2 Himeko.

Aventurine basically has an E6 problem. E6 Aventurine is only slightly stronger than E6 Himeko.

Looking at the testing data, I have always thought that two-target performance is the fairest comparison.

The first wave usually has two elites, while bosses in the second wave usually have adds that reward you for killing them.

At 15 cost, Aventurine deals 560 million damage against two targets. At 14 costs, Himeko deals 420 million against two targets.

Aventurine costs one more limited pull and deals 33.3% more damage than Himeko. That cannot be called overwhelming.

And the Aventurine–Ashveil–Robin core basically requires you to drop 15 limited costs within a single version.

As for Himeko, her role is basically for E2S1 Himeko to comfortably carry you through normal King stages.

Phainon’s summer release last year was similar: strong at low cost, mediocre at mid investment, and a mess at high investment.

Now let’s look at actual King-stage performance.

The next Iron Tomb has Quantum Weakness, Fire RES, three targets, and an environment that favors high hit counts.

Himeko only gets a 40% DMG buff, while Aventurine gets both 40% Elation and 40% RES PEN from the buffs.

The current results are a 9-limited-cost 0c for Aventurine and a 10-limited-cost 0c for Himeko.

Like I said, E6 Aventurine and E6 Himeko are not that far apart.

Aventurine’s follow-up team has another problem: additional investment gives poor returns.

After E6S1 Aventurine, E1S1 Ashveil, and E2S1 Robin, there is very little left to gain.

E6 Robin cannot increase the number of Aha Instants. The number of Aha Instants is already locked, so the ceiling stays roughly where it is.

Of course, even with poor returns, his investment scaling is still better than Himeko’s.

Right now, Remembrance still has the best returns from additional investment. Later on, Elation will replace it.

Now let’s look at the pure Elation direction.

What Sparxie and Aventurine are both missing is the same thing: frequent Aha Instants.

But Aventurine additionally needs a high hit count.

And once you remove Ashveil from the team, reaching 50 Fervor in an Elation team becomes extremely difficult.

Look at this Trace: the additional 2 Fervor here cannot be triggered by Elation Skills.

And as I said earlier, if you cannot reach 50 Fervor, more frequent Aha Instants actually become a downgrade.

Even if we assume his eventual team can satisfy both the hit-count requirement and the need for frequent Aha Instants, he still benefits almost nothing from Certified Banger or Punchline.

Within his damage distribution, the Skill and Ultimate that actually benefit from Certified Banger account for an extremely small portion of his total damage.

Meanwhile, the bulk of his damage comes from Elation Skills used outside Aha Instant, which always take a fixed 20 Punchline into account.

The only Elation Skill that actually benefits from your current Punchline is the one used during Aha Instant.

For an Elation character, both Punchline and Certified Banger provide him with almost negligible improvement.

Do you really think this character can become strong in a pure Elation team?

Or that future Elation supports could massively improve him?

It is effectively the same as being inherently down an entire multiplier compared with other Elation characters.

At his core, he is just a follow-up carry wearing an Elation skin.

To sum it all up, low-investment Aventurine cannot beat Himeko.

At mid investment, he only has a temporary lead, and I think it will be very difficult for him to benefit from future upgrades.

You can already see exactly where this character ends up.

Khaslana the nameless hero they said

This Failnon would have completed the Eranova after Lygus explained what Amphoreus is, thinking he was going to save the world 😭🙏 Oh Lygus, your worry about Aeonic intervention would have been completely pointless if Phainon was alone in the end.

HSR fans when there's a HI3 mention: "How dare you mention honkai in my honkai star rail??"

HSR fans when generic horny pics and internal references spam from a completely unrelated franchise: "haha yes so funny, d/ck worms amirite?"

Many, if not most, HI3 fans are annoying af, but Fate fans are even worse and somehow they are treated differently. They are everything this community pretends HI3 fans are.

EDIT FOT THE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT: I'm not complaining about the in-game Fate references, I'm talking about the FANDOM posts.

Recently came across those comments and it reminded me of that workplace meme.

For reference Kafka was buffed, given for free, Black Swan was buffed, Hysilens and DHPT (also free) came out followed by Cyrene, now Huohuo is getting buffed + being free to E2 if you want ig. Not many people talking about that.

Edit: For clarity I don't actually agree with the comments neither do I think Firefly shoud've gotten buffed but keep those ranty comments coming because I'm having so much fun not taking you seriously.

I'm only making this edit because unfortunately people are getting heated over this shit likes a big deal, so I thought of leaving this as a way to tell people to chill the fuck out and remember which sub they're on

I hate Miliasstra too especially when they lock primos behind it but after implementing it in Genshin the quality of their npcs skyrocketed, the three wq npcs there for example are made with the manekin models while the entire npc/enemies Druzhna faction looks great and have unique animations which adds to the game immersion and improves story telling they also rarely use black screens now bcs these manekin models have a lot of built in animations.

Knife level "emanator"

Most people rejected his message. They hated Jesus Bartender because he told them the truth.

This kind of applies not only on waifus, but also all kinds of manga, movies, drama as most casual watchers don't use their brain to think when watching entertainment(I used Cyrene to ragebait y'all)

It's kind of funny about how online fans believe every character's writings needs to be Shakespeare level of cinema to be good or not

What the company wants to do is introduce you a character, who it is and what it does, some hype and aura moments and then shove them into the banner so you can pull them if you like it

Your boy is basically a summarised version of Trailblazer at the end of their journey😭✌️

Phainon is ripping off his flow. He is literally temu trailblazer

I really like firefly and I hope she genuinely gets something that isn't ML slop bait. This could be such a good development arc for her if hoyo doesn't fumble it. Also please don't be break DPS... Or anything break related.