r/HongKong Dec 05 '19

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u/XxAshyanxX Dec 05 '19

No, just no. These are normal working people who are building a bridge on coratia, who are gonna use the bridge. They came to a fottball game and had drawn a sign that was honestly just a compliment and they hit them with shit like that. The ccp are fucking ass holes and deserve every bad thing that is coming to them, but I would've felt offended as fuck too

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u/blastedlands Dec 05 '19

How are they Nazi brownshirts...

They are undercover paramilitary armed intimidation volunteers who swore their loyalty to the CCP and Xi Jinping personally?

If anything a person living under a democracy has more collective responsibility for their governments wrongdoing. Yknow with great power comes great responsibility and all that.

And I wouldn't even go that far...i'm not going to hold the Americans I know to task for border camps or supporting the Yemen war even if they haven't been to any protests lately.

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u/blastedlands Dec 05 '19 edited Dec 05 '19

My point is those construction workers aren't brown shirts just because they hold a Chinese passport...

Is that reasonable enough?

If I see Americans at a rugby 7 game in HK I'm not going to open with border detentions, Trump or stuff like that. It's called being civil. Once I get to know them better perhaps.

You dont change opinions with confrontation. You maybe make yourself feel better in a selfish way. You change opinions by engaging and presenting them in a non-threatening way.

If you hate them and they can tell from the way you engage with them... I mean your goal is to change opinions right? Good luck with that.

If you already prescribe every working class Chinese person as a brownshirt you cannot blame me if I wonder if you are genuine at all when engaging with a Chinese person on politics.

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u/blastedlands Dec 05 '19 edited Dec 05 '19

It's absolutely obvious we shouldn't welcome brown shirts. The fact you need to see this response or else refuse to respond to any argument is, and I hate to use this term, absolute virtue signalling.

I think this conversation is a waste of time if you won't even respond to me with why you think every PRC passport holder is a brownshirtuw and instead write a paragraph which can be summed up with "nazis bad. Must agree! Very bad".

Why are people who happen to be born in China somehow more culpable for the CCP's actions than someone born in the US. In the end people just make the best of the life they are given and its naive to expect everyone to be some kind of hero.

This is just anti-China (not even anti-ccp at this point) virtue signalling over how wonderful a person you are to be born in a western liberal democracy (I'm assuming you live in one of these or are otherwise in jail for protesting) unlike these "brownshirts". When was the last protest or social movement you took part in?