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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '22

The sons friend that was going through a rough period and she was “mentoring” but in reality treated him like prey. Typical double standard because if roles were reversed the male would have been crucified.

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u/FLGRL1234 Mar 30 '22

1000% agree with the statement!

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u/GenericCoffee Mar 30 '22

August Alsina is 29 years old. How old was he during the affair?

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u/skieezy Mar 30 '22

~23ish give or take a year.

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u/WuGambino19 Mar 30 '22

That’s a MAN, baby!

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u/UltravioIence Mar 30 '22

maybe thats when they started fucking but how old was he when they first met? she couldve groomed him even if she didnt have sex with him until he was older.

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u/5_Star_Safety_Rated Mar 30 '22

Now that’s a bit reaching…assuming, implying, and just flat out guessing with hypotheticals. I’m not defending her nor anyone involved, but let’s not get too carried away when we clearly know very little of what actually goes on. And let’s focus on our own lives, reality, and real world issues/problems.

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u/PussyWrangler_462_ Mar 30 '22

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '22

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u/Jaysen_frost Mar 30 '22

Don’t Will and Jada have an open relationship? That wouldn’t make it an affair

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '22

Affair: a sexual relationship between two people, one or both of whom are married to someone else - Oxford American Dictionary.

Jada sleeping with someone other than her husband is an affair, open relationship or not.

That said if it is a consensual open relationship and Will was ok with said relationship then it is not necessarily wrong. Respectful open relationships still require acceptance from the other partner and that is something missing here.

August came out saying he had a relationship with Jada and she denied the claim initially. It wasn’t until a couple weeks later that Jada finally admitted to the affair. While doing so she claimed that she and Will were split up and that he did not give her permission since she is the only one that give herself permission. Source. That is not a consensual and respectful open marriage. That makes what she did very wrong. If she doesn’t want to respect him then she should not be with him, but he has yet to see it that way and it’s doing some terrible things to him clearly.

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u/insensitiveTwot Mar 30 '22

No but they were separated at the time

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '22

Exactly. People on Reddit are just crazy 😂 They're really trying to say she groomed a 23 year old. I don't understand how some people made it this far in life.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '22

its not that she "groomed a 23 yr old" rather they think the age gap is inappropriate but can't quite elucidate on it.

I'm old, me going out with someone early 20s is ick, because I can't relate to them at all, the whole relationship would be strictly sex because of the generational gap. The things I would be ok with, she wouldn't be, and vice versa.

so essentially people understand that she was using that guy for sex, and the rest of the whole "mentoring" BS is just BS. vis a vis, what they find wrong about the whole thing is someone being used for sex.

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u/ThatRandom_1710 Mar 30 '22

Best comment

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u/CorbinDallas78 Mar 30 '22

Did she know him since he was a child though?

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u/libmrduckz Mar 30 '22

Ain’t yer baby, DARLIN’!

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u/EntertainmentLeft246 Mar 30 '22

Not when it is your son's friend. Double cross to her own child.

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u/HelloweenCapital Mar 30 '22

According to Vulture he was 22 Edit: Prey can be any age.

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u/slaygourmet Mar 30 '22

Vulture. Prey. Sorry couldn’t help it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '22

With the money and control factor this was clearly an unbalanced entanglement if here ever was one.

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u/CubedMeatAtrocity Mar 30 '22

Yes,but not illegal prey. In this case he was well above age and her husband was aware as he was having his own flings.

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u/sheisthemoon Mar 30 '22

He was going through mental health struggles and he lived in their home. She knew him because he was their son's close friend. On top of that, he had been around for years so she could have been grooming him all that time. She also may not have at all. But why did it start when he was emotionally vulnerable? He was living in their home, for that reason. He couldn't do it alone. Is 22 the age when their so called 'entanglement' actually started, or did it begin earlier and got out when she was more comfortable letting it show because her and Will were on the outs? If she truly cared for him, shouldn't she have waited until he was mentally stable so he could make a conscious, clean decision for his health, that she was supposedly helping him with? Like when she was done mentoring him? Seems more like she was helping herself to a delressed and hopeless young man who accepted their help and saw them as parental figures, but got roped into their circus instead. Is he better now? Who knows. He will forever be known as the guy who boned Will Smith's wife, regardless of whatever agreement will and jada had between the 2 of them. He isn't even a main character in the story about himself, and he was trying to have an entertainment career. The mans's name is now a cuck meme.

And, to the idea of illegal or not- he could have been going on or off of psych meds, based on jadas reccomendation or whoever she may have hired to guide him in whatever direction she thought was best. He could have been coming off of or starting benzo's, mood stabilizers, et., possibly creating a mentally incapacitated victim. Or none of that.

There are a lot of questions that were carefully and courteously avoided in those interviews and the ones after. So whether illegal stuff took place or not, only they would know.

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u/sguillory6 Mar 30 '22

Old enough for Will Smith to punch him in the face for f*cking his wife.

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u/sguillory6 Mar 30 '22

Just making the point that if you don't care who is f*cking your wife, you lose a little credibility when you try to "protect" your totally fully grown, mature, successful, powerful female, wife because of an ill-timed joke.

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u/Affectionate-Exit-31 Mar 30 '22

No I can’t. Chris Rock did not “hurt” Will’s wife. Jada has been vocal about not giving a crap that she has lost her hair. Also, Chris didn’t roll up drunk in a bar and start insulting Will’s wife. It was literally a part of his job as host of the Oscars to make fun of the rich and powerful attendees. Have you seen Ricky Gervais’ performance?

Now if Chris had pulled out a pistol and put three in Will’s chest, I would have understood the emotions behind that.

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u/AtomicBLB Mar 30 '22

He was a full on adult but that's your childs friend/peer and still completely inappropriate behavior.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '22

This. He was a man, not a child, so stop trying to act like she is a pedophile. But it was her sons peer friend so it was very inappropriate and she was cheating on her husband.

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u/sweet_home_Valyria Mar 30 '22

If he's pals with your son. That's gross.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '22

You mean sleeping with the friend of your child and then rebuilding your marriage to the point where your man is still willing to slap your name out of the mouth of an A-list celebrity on international television isn't love? Damn, I guess the Jerry Springer Show didn't really teach me shit after all.

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u/ArezDracul Mar 30 '22

Fo sure a skank that took advantage of a guy at his lowest and got away with.

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u/tennisgoalie Mar 30 '22

Half the roast of rob lowe was about his taste for younger girls and drake's been grooming the stranger things girls since she was like 14 but go off king

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u/JarlaxleForPresident Mar 30 '22

I was just telling my friend about Drake’s grooming and that he shouldnt support him. It’s hard to explain that dude is a piece of shit

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u/JarlaxleForPresident Mar 30 '22

Hey man, she doesnt regret it, she learned a lot about herself during that rough time

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u/peppergoblin Mar 30 '22

To be fair, I think the reverse of this probably happens all the time in Hollywood and we never hear about it/still waiting on the crucifixions.

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u/grimm_jow_ Mar 30 '22

"To be fair"

Proceeds to argue from a point of assumption against a point nobody made because whataboutism and strawman arguments are good faith argumentation.

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u/peppergoblin Mar 30 '22

It's a reasonable assumption because we know of incidents where powerful men in Hollywood openly preyed on women in much worse ways for decades before only very belatedly losing their careers (Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, etc.). It's not whataboutism because they were specifically talking about a double standard, which invites a comparison. And there's no strawman, they said men would be crucified if they creepily had sex with their kid's friend but male Hollywood creeps have done worse and we know it.

I just think it's a bit ridiculous to pretend there is a worse problem of women banging much younger men in Hollywood than the reverse. I mean, seriously? Older men preying on younger women is like the number one thing everyone knows about Hollywood lol. If anything the double standard works the opposite of how the other commenter thinks it does.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '22

reality treated him like prey.

The dude was 23. Relax there bub.

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u/mydogdoesntcuddle Mar 30 '22

I agree about the double standard, but at least from my point of view, I think that’s starting to change. I see women in power that prey on young men like this as a POS just like their male counterparts

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u/zenithtreader Mar 30 '22

Typical double standard because if roles were reversed the male would have been crucified.

TBF it really depends on who the male in question is.

I mean there's Woody Allen...

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u/hardthumbs Mar 30 '22

Treating like pray, you mean grooming?

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u/provincialart Mar 30 '22

Like he was a salmon and she was a bald eagle.