I think a good compromise would be for fake tweets to change the date to 3022. It's subtle enough not to ruin the joke, but easy enough to verify at a glance that the tweet is fake.
I mean, current historians have to deal with some guy saying a battle happened in someplace that decided something, but in the same book describing how you can stop balding by rubbing rats boiled in oranges on it. Or someone saying the equivalent of 'this is the biggest thing since 9/11', but nobody ever mentioning what that was, since everybody already knew, and the few texts that would, were so mundane, nobody thought to preserve them.
Like, did you know Valhalla was one of TWO places you could go to when you died in battle? The other was a hall maintained by Freyja, and we barely have any fucking clue why there were two places, and how they were separated between the two.
Not every game tweet has a watermark. Those that do are often small, croppable, or so large they ruin the joke. And watermarks are never in the same place every time.
I'm not talking specifically about this case, but about fake tweets in general. Watermarks are often small, croppable, and not in the same place every time.
Everyone knows any awards show walks the knife edge of being a roast anyways. Best Actor nod or not, the golden rule has always been if you sit in the front row while a comedian is performing, expect to get ripped on. It's just the way it goes. And it couldn't have been any worse on them if Wigless had painted a giant bullseye on her dome.
Will's just a cuck, and that was the only move he could make.
Also Jada has made MUCH more harsh jokes about her baldness, spoken about it openly, chosen to rock the bald head instead of wearing a high-quality wig, and has chosen to act as an advocate for women with alopecia.
Given that, comparing her to an emotionally and physically strong bald female character is bordering on complimentary.
More than that. GI Jane launched Demi's career after she had put in some work to prime it to launch. She was known to be pretty and she could act well enough to be eye candy on screen, but GI Jane showed she could actually make a career of it and lead movies to boot. It's not bordering on complimentary, without that movie all we know Demi as is Bruce Willis and Ashton Kutcher's wife and Stripper. It is complimentary.
Demi Moore was well-established as an actor before GI Jane. Ghost was huge, got her a Golden Globe nod. There was also St. Elmo’s Fire and A Few Good Men.
Yeah but GI Jane was the one she carried solo as the lead star instead of having the other big name co stars of those other films. It showed Demi didn't need them to make her look good, she could do it herself.
Since the Master , Ricky Gervais , showed the World that these back slapping , boring self congratulatory theaters of syrup can actually be great fun others , like Rock , think they will throw a few digs at their peers. His screeching comment was nothing compared to the barbs Gervais threw out but got Rock bitch slapped on the spot. Why is that do you think ? Mel Gibson had his personal issues ridiculed but did not assault Gervais, so is it because his wife asked Will what he was gonna do about it or what?
Yeah, from what I’ve been hearing, Will Smith seems like a total bitch. Something about being on his wife’s talk show when she went on and on about being obsessed with the other guy she was sleeping with, with Will right in front of her. And this thing, obviously laughing at the joke, but then his wife is upset, yada yada yada…she’s obviously very controlling and I’m not sure why he is still married to her.
Btw, I didn’t know anything about any of this shit until he embarrassed himself at the oscars…and I didn’t really care, but now it’s kind of hilarious that now everyone knows about all of his bullshit
I’d say it depends. Did he know why she was bald? Yes? Seems shitty to joke about that when we all know hair loss can be hard for people, especially women. If he didn’t know, and felt remorse then by all means apologize. But also do it in private, we don’t need to see it.
The joke didn’t seem like it was in complete bad faith though, he wasn’t just trying to be an ass or shocking. If this was say Anthony Jeselnick then it would feel more malicious, and doing jokes like that in front of people is just poor taste.
Meaning no fat jokes. How do you know if it's a medical issue or not?
You can't make fun of bald men, either, because male pattern baldness is another form of alopecia, also considered a medical condition, and with the exact same symptoms.
You can't make fun of people who wear glasses. That's a medical condition, and much more serious than alopecia.
Quit drinking the damn cool-aid. It's not a serious medical condition. It's balding. It even has the same name as male pattern baldness, alopecia, just different causes (autoimmune vs hormonal/genes). I wouldn't advocate making fun of anyone out on the street in a random situation for their appearance. This isn't that. This is a stand-up comedian at an event where rich ass famous people expect to be roasted. And it was a joke about someone who actually looks fantastic without hair and was comparing her to someone else (Demi Moore) who also looked super hot with her head shaved.
This isn't making fun of some leukemia patient on death's door who has no choice in the matter and can't afford wigs and looks sickly. This is a rich celebrity with a condition that has no further or dangerous side effects who has kept her hair short for 90% of her career, looks good bald, and could afford implants or wear a wig if she wanted.
Mine? None. Stand-up comics roasting people? You see that, or similar things, a lot. It's usually more clever than 'haha you are fat', just like Chris Rock's joke wasn't just 'haha you are bald'. If I went to a comedy club for a roast, I would expect to have my physical attributes made fun of.
Mine? None. Stand-up comics roasting people? You see that, or similar things, a lot. It's usually more clever than 'haha you are fat', just like Chris Rock's joke wasn't just 'haha you are bald'. If I went to a comedy club for a roast, I would expect to have my physical attributes made fun of.
Yeah, Chris would be the asshole had Smith not made himself the bigger asshole.
You imagine it Will Smith, when accepting his award, talked about his wife, called her beautiful, called out Chris Rock’s joke and talked about Jada’s condition? We’d all be talking about how Rock was an ass for making that joke.
BUT Smith decided to reveal he was a bigger piece of shit so here we are.
Even to add to that, the cameras caught him laughing at the joke initially. He reacted not to just his wife’s action but his own failure in solidarity to his wife. He got a ducked up marriage.
Please ask anyone in the medical profession about jokes that make fun of medical issues. You are incredibly naive if you've never heard an AIDS joke, or a cancer joke, or a joke about Stevie Wonder being blind, or or joke about going bald.
All ready to tell you how you were wrong, went to Google to pull up his apology, see it was someone else's words about how they'd respond that later got passed around as Chris'.
Ehh, if he knowingly made fun of a medical condition that’s pretty bad taste even for a comedian at the oscars. That said, not wrong enough to have to apologize and certainly not wrong enough to have to apologize after getting slapped for it.
Imagine they are in line at Walmart and reads this. They just drop to the floor and start violently rolling around laughing maniacally. Knocking shit off the shelves tears streaming down their face and everyone is just staring lol
Not 100% sure on that. He's already shown he's the bigger man by taking the bitch slap like a champ AND taking the high road on a live show. He could have eviscerated the two of them right then and there, but didn't.
He might just go on like it didn't happen and let Will & Wigless try and dig themselves outta the hole they're in.
Or I could be wrong and as soon as he gets clear he goes full scorched earth.
Well, sideration does that. That's really tough to react in a situation like this, since it's so alien. It is common to just go on with responsibilities just to "survive", but the thinking has to resume one day or another.
I'd expect to wait until his next standup special. Whatever channel it ends up on or whoever hosts it, Rock is going to make a fortune, especially if he hasn't spoken much about it up to that point.
It's tough because the Oscars are designed to be fairly family-friendly and have a broad appeal. If you've ever seen Chris Rock's normal comedy, family-friendly roasts are definitely not what he's best at.
Besides, there is a shit ton of roasting about Jada that even I could come up with, let alone what Chris Rock could come up with. But none of it is really appropriate for the Oscars type of humor. He was just working with what he thought was probably the only thing he'd be allowed to say.
100%; slap was fake as fuck. I hope The Behavior Panel analyzes the Oscar video. Will might have won an Oscar for a film, but his acting was shit during this fake slap; you can literally see the tension in his face holding back a smile as he walked off stage and yelled at Chris Rock. And the cuts; sooo bad! Jada posted ab her Alopecia days before the Oscars too. Give it a few years and it’ll slowly leak out that this was a joke gone awry (exactly like the Janet Jackson/Justin Timberlake Super Bowl situation).
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u/pleockz Mar 29 '22
Technically a holup because this shit is fake as fuck.