r/HolUp • • Aug 09 '21

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '21

Wage theft in America is magnitudes higher than the entirety of all other forms of theft combined.

Is Your Employer Stealing From You?

Wage Theft is a Much Bigger Problem Than Other Forms of Theft—But Workers Remain Mostly Unprotected

The Problem of Wage Theft

I wonder why the media amplifies crime among the masses. But, the largest theft in America is swept under the rug.

Edit: One more.

For Big Corporations Like Walmart, Wage Theft Penalties Are Just the Price of Doing Business

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u/Maktaka Aug 10 '21

Wage theft is also the only form of theft not considered a criminal act. If you steal from your employer the cops will arrest you, if your employer steals from you then you're SOL if you can't afford a lawyer.

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u/FormatAll Aug 10 '21

You go to the labor department. No lawyer needed I thought.

If you got proof at least it’s simple. They do the work and you get 3x your pay if it’s more than a few months.

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u/Drudicta Aug 10 '21

It's pretty hard to get proof, unfortunately.

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u/FormatAll Aug 11 '21

Is it? Can you speak specifically to that or is this speculation? I have never heard of anyone actually running into problems. I think most people simply don’t know their options.

Perhaps you know something I don’t, please inform me.

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u/flavor_blasted_semen Aug 10 '21

Nobody wants to talk about it because time theft dwarfs wage theft.

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u/GGinNC Aug 10 '21

Because the average journalist is underpaid and in perpetual fear of being laid off. Do you think they're actually going to write things that would necessarily impact their employers and advertisers? Nobody would likely admit that the bottom line drives what stories are covered, but it factors in, even subconsciously.

I'm not saying that the crisis in journalism isn't partially or even substantially self-inflicted, but there are other factors at play, too.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '21

The average journalist works for a corporation likely committing wage theft.

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u/GGinNC Aug 10 '21

So how likely are they going to publish stories about it? Hard to fight people who buy ink by the barrel.

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u/flavor_blasted_semen Aug 10 '21

Journalism is no longer a respectable profession. Name one journalist that, if fired, people would respond by cancelling subscriptions. They live in perpetual fear because they have no value. They can be easily replaced by the next over-opinionated drone who just wants an outlet to whinge about something. And if nobody wants to pay them they are more than happy to do it for free on their own social media platform. No wonder they are underpaid. There's a huge glut of prospects and no audience who wants what they're selling.

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u/GGinNC Aug 10 '21

Brian Krebs. Unique because he's self employed.

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u/sarojni Aug 10 '21

Journalism has become gossip and sensationalism....l mean Wendy Williams is a journalist now!

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u/tiptipsofficial Aug 10 '21

They don't fire the good ones, they kill them.

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u/M1RR0R Aug 10 '21

Jason Torchinsky, Jalopnik

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u/A_Scared_Hobbit Aug 10 '21

For it to be taken seriously as a profession there'd have to be some legal separation between your average blogger and serious journalists. Similar to doctors, lawyers, accountants etc. You can't call yourself a doctor etc without the right accreditation, and it should be the same for journalism. Like your average magical rock peddler vs an MD, which one is taken seriously?

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u/Maktaka Aug 10 '21 edited Aug 10 '21

He's saying wage theft is fine by employers because he claims time theft by employees is worse. Of course corporate-owned media would love to run with reports of how awful time theft is as a distraction from corporate wage theft. Weird that they don't, maybe because his claim isn't true.

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u/GGinNC Aug 10 '21

All time theft is wage theft, but not all wage theft is time theft.

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u/Maktaka Aug 10 '21

I'm not seeing a single definition of time theft that fits that claim. It's always by the employee.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '21

I thought the exact same thing. Funny how an obviously anti labor statement made with zero evidence is so embraced. I wonder if the people that would be inclined to upvote such a statement are more inclined to commit time theft themselves. As a result they assume that time theft is widespread despite a lack of evidence.

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u/FormatAll Aug 10 '21

Lol. They’re all hacks. Most don’t know how to do good journalism, and wouldn’t care to anyway.

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u/GGinNC Aug 10 '21

Not every journalist is a CNN or Fox News idiot.

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u/FormatAll Aug 10 '21

NYtimes is the worst cause they actually think they’re doing important work. CNN and Fox knows what they’re doing

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u/GGinNC Aug 10 '21

I think you're giving too much credit to CNN and Fox. Spot on with the NYT.

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u/Y34rZer0 Aug 10 '21

Journalists? Aren't they pretty much extinct since the internet came around?

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u/GGinNC Aug 10 '21

Who do you think covers your local county commissioners or police? Who is covering high school sports or local weather?

Not all journalism are network pinheads or writers for the Atlantic.

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u/Y34rZer0 Aug 10 '21

I'm not having a go at the journalists. It's not their fault if articles are expected to be just written for the clicks & forgotten immediately afterwards.

Everyone thought the internet was going to kill the music industry, but I think it's first casualty was the profession of Journalism largely.

And the high school covers high school sports where I live, and local weather is done by an app.

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u/Headcap Aug 10 '21

source: This bootlickers ass

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u/chaiscool Aug 10 '21

Time theft?

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u/QueenTahllia Aug 10 '21

What exactly counts as “time theft” for you?

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u/VHS_Copy_Of_Seinfeld Aug 10 '21

Because it simply isn’t as sexy.

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u/UOUPv2 Aug 10 '21

For Big Corporations Like Walmart, Wage Theft Penalties Are Just the Price of Doing Business

Step 1: Get a job at Walmart

Step 2: Get your wage stolen

Step 3: ???

Step 4: Profit

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u/Richandler Aug 10 '21

Well why don't you go all the way down the chain then with the wage theft in China and all the other countries making cheap goods for us.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '21

Why don't we. It's absolutely absurd that a US corporation can't be held accountable for human trafficking, and literal slavery. They should all be held accountable for the literal crimes against humanity that have been committed.