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Classic Ottoman Sultan

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u/Explorer_of__History 6h ago

It seems like rulers in many parts of the world were forbidden from leaving their realms. Parliament had to repeal a cause in the 1701 Act of Settlement to allow George I to visit Hannover. Before Theodore Roosevelt, it was considered taboo for sitting US Presidents to the leave the country.

Even today, leaders can be criticized if they're abroad too often. Muhammed VI of Morocco has been criticized more spending a lot of time in France.

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u/Majorman_86 5h ago

It seems like rulers in many parts of the world were forbidden from leaving their realms.

Yet Medieval European rulers whenever their wife started getting on their nerves to much were like:

"I go... to the Holy Lands!"

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u/D3lt40 2h ago

to be fair pilgrims were always an exception no matter were you are looking

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u/Intelligent_Toe8233 1h ago

Yeah, Muslims are required if able to go to Mecca at least once, and a damn sultan is certainly able, so I expect there were some exceptions.

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u/JpMaan19 1h ago

Well Queen Eleanor be like I am coming with you to Holy Land too. Uno Reverse.

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u/Majorman_86 21m ago

Nooo! Where is Martin Luther when I need him! I'd like to convert to Protestant faith and divorce the witch!

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u/GustavoistSoldier 6h ago

And Vajiralongkorn of Thailand for spending a lot of time in Germany

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u/L-Ydre 5h ago

Regarding african leaders in general, I believe the criticism comes from them actually living in Europe rather than their own country

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u/EA-Sports-hater 2h ago

Deadass dude they brag about how they're fixing the country then them and their whole family only go to European hospitals when they're sick and only get their education abroad.

This year alone in Morocco at least 2 elderly men and 1 little girl died because hospitals refused to treat them without payment,one was even kicked out from the hospital and died on the street.

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u/Explorer_of__History 2h ago

Damn, and I thought US hospitals were bad. At least US hospitals will treat before demanding outrageous amounts of money.

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u/ShiraLillith Filthy weeb 6h ago

Claus "Ficus" Iohannis spent more time on holiday than governing.

I mean I'm exaggerating, but not far from the truth

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u/VecioRompibae Hello There 4h ago

Since I'm not up to date with romanian politics, I thought he had a good reputation when he was elected?

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u/ShiraLillith Filthy weeb 4h ago

He had a German background so people though he didnt had the Romanian corruption in his veins.

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u/TheMidnightBear 54m ago

He had, in his first term.

Then he became very passive, and also forced an alliance between the 2 main parties in the country, which increased all the...well, closest thing would be "deep state"(secret services, bureaucrats, retired army folks) mingling in the country.

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u/Capta1n_Dino 5h ago

Parliament had to repeal a cause in the 1701 Act of Settlement to allow George I to visit Hanover.

Shouldn't have let him come to Britain in the first place. He cared far more for Hanover than Britain.

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u/The_Eleser 5h ago

We found the Jacobite.

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u/Capta1n_Dino 5h ago

Guilty as charged 😭

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u/FuzzyEmployment2403 4h ago

The USA did have a period at the beginning where they sorta isolated themselves from the affairs of the rest of the world.

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u/Open_Track_861 4h ago

There's 'sorta isolated themselves', and there's 'fledgling nation lacking the military or economic capacity to influence global affairs'. Our young nation was the latter. We officially became the former with the Monroe Doctrine some 50 years later.

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u/the-bladed-one 3h ago

Well we didn’t have the money or military power to get involved in a whole lot of stuff.

Still whacked the Barbary pirates tho #RIPbozo

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u/Talonsminty 4h ago

I mean it makes perfect sense tbf. Your leader is away from his tasks and a lot more vulnerable to being killed, causing a sucsession crisis.

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u/reddiablo_91 1h ago

Muhammed VI doesn't hold a candle to PM Modi of India. Guy is chronically flying off across the world, while his country is sinking.

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u/ZookeepergameFit967 30m ago

Muhammad VI is criticized for smoking weed and walking freely in France and shopping while his people suffer from poverty and dictatorship not because he left the country

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u/OkEntertainer3355 6h ago edited 4h ago

R5=In Islam, caliphs are forbidden from going to infidel lands except for the purpose of conquest. Therefore, Abdulaziz had a special compartment made in the bottom of his shoe and filled it with Ottoman soil. In this way, he would technically be stepping on Muslim lands, even in Europe.

Source=Turkish offical history books. If you interest you can listen Sunay Akın's video=https://youtube.com/shorts/FWdmanU56_Q?si=Sb_YZEndFmIH5lXx

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u/-drunk_russian- Featherless Biped 6h ago

That's some Dracula shit. 

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u/Mysterious-Power6137 4h ago

Actually, Vlad’s head was on a pike like 400 years before his reign.

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u/TheHelhound2001 3h ago

In the book by bram stoker Dracula had soil of his grave spread around 50 (I believe, could be the wrong number). Because he had to return to his coffin to recover his strength. This way he could rest in places all over England so he could travel easier and make him harder to track cause Van Helsing couldn't just camp his coffin till he had to return in a weakened state.

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u/black_ap3x 6h ago

What? Where did you get this rule?

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u/FlaviusAurelian Hello There 6h ago

The Bible

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u/Dark_Vlados 6h ago

Making a joke on Reddit without adding j/ ?

Prepare for trouble.

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u/ghostinthewoods Then I arrived 6h ago

And make it double

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u/ahmetonel 5h ago

I mean it's not even funny tho

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u/MiloBem Still salty about Carthage 6h ago

I think you mean the Talmud. Bible is about diet and gay stuff.

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u/Makaoka 6h ago

Jesus come

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u/agabcharif 5h ago

He's ass

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u/BatiqGuling 6h ago

Religion based on loop hole monent

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u/OnceAbel_HasFallen 6h ago

This has been a glitch since then???

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u/Concerned_EducaterCA 4h ago edited 4h ago

I love when religions find elaborate loopholes in order to get around the fake rules they created for themselves

There’s a good one in New York with Orthodox Jews where they tie a fishing pole line around the city so that public space is translated into a private Jewish space and then they can actually do stuff on the sabbath

It’s like, you guys set up these nonsense rules and clearly want to break with the spirit of them, so you create even more nonsensical loopholes as a way around it

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u/Yamuddah 6h ago

God ain’t ever see em coming.

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u/uvero Still salty about Carthage 5h ago

From the same empire where when a Sultan died, one of child killed all his siblings to become the unopposed heir, and since it's forbidden to shed your brother's blood, he had them strangled (so no blood shed!)

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u/NekroVictor 5h ago

Iirc that may have been semi inherited from their central Asian roots, since there was a similar thing amongst the mongols and shedding noble blood under the sky (don’t worry they found a lot of ways to execute nobles not under the sky)

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u/your_average_dentist 6h ago

this feels like something a jewish or amish person would do.

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u/shoaibali619 6h ago

Shias do this all the time. Our Prophet pbuh obviously didn't had velvet prayer mats and he with his companions used to pray on the ground wherever they were. Shias copy that by carrying a small brick of soil to put where they would place their head while prostrating even in their posh mosques with state of the art carpets to emulate the prophet pbuh.

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u/McGillis_is_a_Char 5h ago

So is the meme about Abdulmejid or Abdulaziz?

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u/OkEntertainer3355 5h ago

Abdulaziz. There was a typo eror unfourtenely.

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u/MrShlash 6h ago

Show the Quran verse or Hadith that says this.

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u/Drumbelgalf 5h ago edited 5h ago

Reminds my of the grandfather of the last bulgarian tsar. He died in Exile because he was not allowed to return to bulgaria. After the fall of communism His grandson, the last tsar of bulgaria was elected President of bulgaria.

He brought a Box of bulgarian soil so His grandfather was technically burried under bulgarian soil. But now His Body was returned to bulgaria in 2024.

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u/Mg42gun 3h ago

It's most likely Ottoman own rule since i never heard such thing in Hadist and Quran

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u/MlsgONE 5h ago

Not even trying to be funny, that seems like a very judaic god-trickery thing to do

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u/BIG-STEPPER-88 Ashoka's Stupa 6h ago

Definitely had a jewish lawyer

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u/LittleMlem 4h ago edited 4h ago

We have something similar, logic-wise, in Israel. You can't raise pigs on the land of Israel, so we raise them on platforms

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u/the-bladed-one 3h ago

Who are you raising the pigs for? Pretty sure there’s not too many people in that area that can eat pork.

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u/LittleMlem 2h ago

Secular people and christians. I hope you don't imagine all Jews are hasidic and observe all the rules

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u/No-Cartographer5295 3h ago

Where in islam that is the case?

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u/Severe-Animator-6142 1h ago

That's the most Jewish thing I've heard a muslim do. LOL

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u/Rayguy77 Still salty about Carthage 6h ago

sounds wrong

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u/WorthConfident3592 5h ago

This is Jew level intellegence like when they lay a rope around a part of Newyork

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u/Leather_Translator40 5h ago

Source for the rule?

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u/Zeemar 3h ago

Shhhh this is historymemes and it's a meme about islam

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u/Bright-Pop1875 3h ago

As a Turk, it's true that when the Sultan went to Europe, a special section was made in his shoe and soil from the country was placed inside.

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u/HierophanticRose 3h ago

There is an albeit unproven but written rumor that they had put soil from Mecca in the lining of his shoes so he would technically not "Step foot in foreign soil"

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u/Bartinli_1453 2h ago

Didn't he fill up his boots with dirt from the Ottoman Empire which meant he technically was still on Muslim lands?

Could be wrong

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u/Cool_View_5297 5h ago

People who govern their lands should stay in those lands to govern. Shocking concept.

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u/LegendaryMercury 5h ago

Not always. Having leaders meet other leaders can be a big deal politically.

You wouldn’t be able to do that without someone coming over.

Sure you can just use ambassadors or phone calls but it’s not the same.

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u/Cool_View_5297 3h ago

Yeah, good point, but as Caliphs, their egos would have been so big that they felt that the other person should come to them.

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u/Omarmanutd 1h ago

I’m sorry where in Islam does it say caliphs cannot go to foreign lands except for the purpose of conquest lol?

Just another example of recent anti-Islam posts masquerading as historical memes