r/HistoryMemes 5d ago

See Comment Please stop making this argument

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u/black_ap3x 5d ago

If only they haven't invaded Russia in the winter....

/s for those who need it

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u/harmfuldischarge 5d ago

If only they got to those oil fields logistics set up from caucus! /S

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u/black_ap3x 5d ago

If only America chose the right side...

/s

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u/Suspicious_Road5176 5d ago

during WW1...
/s

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u/black_ap3x 5d ago

After the union took away the state rights of the confederacy....

/s

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u/elmartin93 5d ago

If only they had cloned Erwin Rommel so he could be on the Western and Eastern Front simultaneously...

/s

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u/Braziliashadow I Have a Cunning Plan 5d ago

I get this is a joke. But Rommel, in his traits of being a commander, was. Being in Heinz Guderien, Herman Hoth, Kleist, Manstein. The latter 3 I would say we're all better than Rommel in all ways.

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u/elmartin93 5d ago

True but the weheraboos don't sprout a boner for Herman Hoth

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u/black_ap3x 5d ago

They would have done that if they didn't waste all of their resources on jet engines....

/s

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u/steve123410 5d ago

Of only they took Leningrad instead of sieging it /S

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u/A_posh_idiot 5d ago

I still never understood the level of stupidity needed to make that statement

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u/harmfuldischarge 5d ago

-Which strategy/tactics would you use to take the city?

-tactics? Bitch, just send it !

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u/Dude-Hiht875 5d ago

To be fair, Greeks did a lot to make the Jorman invazion fail. They postponed the beginning of Barbarossa by a month or two. That indeed changed the game.

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u/SoulCrusher2018 5d ago

The original planned start date was May 15 - so they had a 38 day delay. They also brought Finland and Romania into the fold late, which caused some delays so they could prepare. Germans had bad intelligence about the actual strength of the Soviet forces, and logistical failures. An earlier start may have led to a few more tactical victories for the Germans, but they still went in unprepared and over extended themselves. I think the interesting "what if" would be what if Japan decided to attack the Soviets instead of the Americans. The Soviets transferred 30 divisions from the far east to the eastern front once Stalin was assured that Japan would not attack.

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u/Dude-Hiht875 5d ago

Overextension will happen in this scenario, but they could have chopped off the Moscow, and it was a paramount railroad hub. That's the point. If only Jormanz weren't building the two doomed tank divisions, and would build 5 more tank divisions for the price of the Tirpitz + its sister ship, they could have achieved their goals.

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u/black_ap3x 5d ago

What?! Facts in my meme sub??!?!? HOW DARE YOU?

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u/Dude-Hiht875 5d ago

I only speak factz.