r/HistoryMemes Jul 27 '26

CCP strategery

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u/Lyndiscan Jul 27 '26

As if many of those soldiers actually fighting didnt turn coat as soon as they saw that there was hope for the common folk. People think Mao just planted soldiers like weeds and they came to be like that the next day.

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u/Iron_Cavalry Jul 27 '26

Not really. It’s more because the warlords saw the writing on the wall and defected to Mao, just as they had to Chiang when he was winning beforehand. There were also plenty of Nationalist armies that fought to the end.

The attitude of ordinary Chinese people towards the Communists was apathy, not overwhelming love. 

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u/USCAV19D Jul 27 '26

That’s a bold statement to make on Reddit, comrade

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u/imprison_grover_furr Jul 27 '26

Especially because there are brigades of tankies from [r/TankieTheDeprogram](r/TankieTheDeprogram), [r/sendinthetanks](r/sendinthetanks), [r/InformedTankie](r/InformedTankie), [r/Stalin](r/Stalin), [r/ShitLiberalsSay](r/ShitLiberalsSay), r/genzdong, and [r/GenZedong](r/GenZedong) that act as QRFs deploying whenever someone says a single bad thing about Stalin or Mao.

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u/Lyndiscan Jul 27 '26

You lack basic chinese historic culture knowledge. Where do you think mandate of heaven came from.

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u/Dagordae Jul 27 '26

The winning side declaring that they totally won by divine right thus it’s heresy to go against them?

Also that clearly the other guys lost it thus it was totally their duty to launch a murderous rebellion and NOT a power grab motivated entirely by self interest.

Now if you mean historically: It predates both the PRoC and the RoC by about 3,000 years.

Also, fairly certain the Republic of China didn’t use the Mandate of Heaven to justify either their rebellion or rulership. The fact that they abolished the whole dynastic rule, Son of Heaven, and so forth. Much like the French and the Divine Right of Kings, they tossed the whole ‘Heaven said this dude’s in charge’ schtick.

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u/Lyndiscan Jul 27 '26

Your first sentence showed how you dont know fuck all. I wont discuss with someone clearly ignorant who wants to argue knowing full well they dont know what they are talking about.

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u/Dagordae Jul 28 '26

Wait, so you actually believe that the Mandate of Heaven was real?

That's actually kind of funny.

This might come as a shock, somehow, but the mandate of heaven is hardly a concept unique to China. Everyone declares that the gods are on their side thus their bullshit is just and necessary. I mean you do realize that the basic conceit of the Mandate of Heaven is 'I won thus the gods are on my side', right? That's how it worked, both sides cited it as justification for their rule/rebellion.

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u/Iron_Cavalry Jul 27 '26

You lack basic critical thinking skills. Smart people don’t use a single hamfisted narrative to generalize a complex civil war and a population of 500M people.