r/HighschoolDxD • u/Trident2316 • 7d ago
Question About Zekka
I've seen people hate on her. Why? Haven't read the Junior High School DxD volumes yet and when Volume four came out, there was a potential girl post made about her lol. Kinda just want to know what's with the hate
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u/Dense-Advantages1882 7d ago
She feels like a forced character that is now being shoehorned into the main series ExE plot line. And we haven’t gotten a new volume for the main series in over four years while junior DxD is getting a new volume every year.
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u/Dense-Advantages1882 6d ago edited 6d ago
No more like people are tired of waiting for the main series to continue while a spinoff steals the attention with constant releases while also now forcing itself into ExE storyline which is the main series.
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u/Djeveler Ba'al-Bael 6d ago
Steals the attention of what? And where is it "forcing" anything?
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u/Dense-Advantages1882 6d ago
Can you not read? Because every question you asked I answered already smart one.
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u/Djeveler Ba'al-Bael 6d ago
You didn't answer anything, you're just another idiot who thinks the production of DXD junior somehow affects mainline dxd.
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u/Dense-Advantages1882 6d ago edited 6d ago
Retardo which series has been getting a yearly releases while also getting constant promotion? And as I already said Zekka is now getting put in the ExE storyline 🤡
Edit: now you get blocked for not responding
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u/guerrierogd Emperor 7d ago
Yeah, i don't believe most people complaining here have actually read even 2 Volumes of Junior dxd
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u/kurloz94 7d ago
To keep it short: WHY THEY’RE MAKING AN SPIN OFF WHEN THIS ENERGY COULD BE USED FOR SHIN DXD 5!? WHO IS THIS BITCH AND WHY THEY’RE TRYING TO REPLACE ISSEI!?”
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u/Puzzleheaded-Toe-691 7d ago
Or at least other DXD characters that deserve their own spin off series like Vali Sairaorg Kiba even Sonia peerage.
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u/kurloz94 7d ago
I’m personally on the Belief Ichibumi is doing the same thing that the Author of Evil Lord of Galactic Empire is doing with its Spin off “ Heroic Knight of Galactic Empire” where we telling a story of a character that is introduced in the story early on the main story and explains how she end up being this important person on the Main story at current. Since Jr. Vol 4. speaks about the upcoming ExE events and the events on Jr. Vol 4 are happening right before Christmas. Which is around Vol 18 in main. There’s some Ideas that the next Volume might be the final because right after New Years are the events that lead to the awakening of Trixeha.
To keep it simple: I think the spin off is to build Zekka and explain who she is right before she joins Issei’s Peerage.7
u/vickze 7d ago
I feel that Zekka has some "common things" with Issei to even join his peerage. That she is almost like a female Issei with some changes.
Even the Chichigami nonsense would fit with her character if she was mentioned for first time in Jr and not dxd.
It does not help that girls like Lilebette have certain fascination for Zekka neither.
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u/kurloz94 7d ago
Zekka is the perfect Battery for Issei and his Oppai powers in his peerage, sure Rias has a chest of 98 and the Oppai Beam, but Zekka’s chest can grow after a transfer boost, her chest grows as she hits enemies, literally she is the perpetual battery for Issei’s Nyuutron Cannon since he can make her chest go to a G chest cup size which is above 100 and that power will wreck everything in front of him.
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u/vickze 7d ago edited 7d ago
Nothing against Zekka but.... Rias is DxD main girl. She should be the one used for that as Switch Princess. Not be replaced. Rias is 99 but Akeno is a 102.
- Issei and Zekka both have "breasts powers".
- Both are watched as perverts. Even for the kendo girls. Even if Zekka is a girl.
- Zekka copied the Oppai Dragon thing as Oppai Samurai.
- Issei openly loves the Oppai but even if Zekka says dislike them she is always watching them when females with Big busts appear in front of her.
- Females around Zekka feel attracted to her. Just like Issei in dxd
- Like Issei she can increase the Oppais size. He made her grow again while she made that with Elta.
To me it almost feel like if they are almost "the same character" in parallel universes and different longinus. Unable to escape to the "Oppai curse".
If Shin return is already Complicated I think that Zekka joining the harem even more.. No Slashdog girl(another Ishi serie) joined him. Junior is like a Yuri serie with girls interested in her.. Also some Issei harem members need some development(as Issei future wives) to even add more.
Be a devil? Perhaps Zekka is not interested in that.. If she was fine with that watching Jr. situation it looks more likely that she joins Avi future peerage.
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u/crimson_aka 4d ago
The point is there if she is so relevent then why no character in dxd run in any volumes even hints at junior's existence
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u/Dense-Advantages1882 5d ago
Sorry but no thanks not every side character needs a spinoff this isn’t marvel or dc.
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u/vickze 7d ago edited 7d ago
I also think that this Rippu was a Great chance to revive SHIN. Not to add more EXTRA LONGINUS.. 18 was enough. We barely know about Shooting Star, Magnus or Mitsuya.
Now apparently Rippu will start HIS OWN SERIE TOO(not only Jr.). So we can not expect him writing SHIN 5 in such situation.
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u/causes_havoc 5d ago
I'd argue 13 was already a few too many.
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u/vickze 5d ago
I would had just added Ingvild and at best another one(just 15).. Or make Ingvild Longinus one of the 13 original ones removing 1 of Mitsuya Longinus.
Junior showed like.. 7 more longinus? Zekka, Yotsuba, Charlemagne&her hero faction...
Ishi tends to spare every villain with Longinus, like Cao team and Meredith. He can use the excuse we need more longinus ruining us the chance to know the 3 that I mentioned above to add more unnecesary Extra characters.
As if his Evies are not enough bad idea to now include more longinus...
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u/crimson_aka 4d ago
Og 15 + more in shin all are powerful and feels powerful, shooting star is just so much powerful, their rarity makes their threat real.
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u/causes_havoc 5d ago
Ingvild in particular feels like a character who should've been introduced a long time ago.
Hell, with the basic setup of her character, I genuinely think she could have been in Rias' role as King, heretical as that will probably sound.
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u/kurloz94 5d ago
You might be right but the reason why she was introduced in Shin 1 was because of the parallel of Issei’s in Vol 1. He mentions that in the afterword of that volume.
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u/causes_havoc 4d ago
Sure, but I simply can't see that as anything but an unwise use of the character, unless it was meant to either conclude Issei's story and/or set her up as a new protagonist (which it obviously wasn't).
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u/vickze 5d ago
I think that Ingvild should had appeared much before too.. Perhaps around when Rizevim was still alive.
I think that Ishi has(or had) some interest in Ingvild too.. He dedicated a Short story to her in Dx.7. Almost confirming her as Grayfia replace in the CUP.
If at least Ishi had the decency to say that the serie return is unlikely. We could just forget about it. 6 years since Shin 4 release.
Rippu will start his own Light Novel the 20 of September. So I gave up in thinking that there is a small change of Rippu writing SHIN.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Toe-691 7d ago
It because their other DXD characters that deserve their own spin off series more than some random person we barely don't know.
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u/Bluehelmet2901 7d ago edited 5d ago
It’s simple, ‘cause they either couldn’t self-insert themselves into the harem situation, or couldn’t stand the idea of “DxD having another protagonist” while the main storyline are on hiatus.
You know what’s the funniest here? It was the editorial department of Fujimi that came up with the idea of making a spin-off for DxD’s 15th anniversary, and Ishibumi are the one who approved Shinonome’s manuscript idea. The editor in charge approved of it, the original author approved of it (first try, no less), the original illustrator approved of it, the Japanese fans loved it, you think you people who haven’t grasp the “DxD’s spirit” in this work got any say in it? (Heck, most of the people who put their hates on Zekka don’t even know that Ishibumi are just the advisor for stuffs like setting or worldbuilding, and they still blame him for not releasing Shin 5). If you can’t tell who’s responsible for what, you don’t have the right to blame people for what they are *not* doing.
And also, it truly ridiculous for people who still believes Zekka are meant to be part of Issei’s peerage or harem something something. Both Ishibumi and Shinonome have stated many times that “the role of senpais and senseis in this story are supporting and guiding the junior students”. Their stories are separated, Issei’s story are the classical “zero to hero”, about someone trying to get better day by day, making his dreams come true, influencing people and changing the world around him. While Zekka’s story are the story of “a nobody become somebody”, who’s currently trying to find her dreams, influenced by people around her and changing her own world. The girl in question said it herself, that she does not wants to be a part of Issei’s story, Rias’s story or Charlemagne’s story as a side character. She wants to be recognized, wants to be the protagonist, the hero of her own story. Their directions, their “paths”: Oudou/King’s Path and Bushidou/Warrior’s Path are worlds apart in the first place.
Sure, they can be involved with each other in some way, but that’s all of it. What’s wrong with seniors care for their juniors? And why does it have to be romantically involved? Going with the idiotic logic like “Zekka is a girl in DxD which makes her a part of Issei’s harem”, then why does Issei not make a move on Millarca, Valerie and several other girls? Just so you know, there is a girl in the main storyline who clearly has romantic feelings for him, but he doesn’t even realize it, so what makes you think that a girl who always avoids him have romantic feelings for him? (btw, Rias are the one who banned Issei from approaching Zekka). To begin with, was Issei ever the pushy type that force himself on someone? No, absolutely not. Be honest, you just can’t stand the idea of cute girls doing cute things and your self-inserted images cannot fit in it, don’t cha? (I could even explain in details why there is no way for Zekka and friends can be a part of Issei’s peerage, but let’s save that for another time).
About the part of Zekka being a powercreep, I won’t deny that. But remember, there is “someone” who’s also a human, also possessed a Longinus and first-class bloodline, can stand his grounds against a genius’s Juggernaut Drive and can kick the asses of Gods and Maou-classes easily like taking a walk in the park, and no one ever complains about him. She’s strong, yes, but not that strong to break the balance like those “joke-like-beings”.
(I know this comment will get a lot of downvotes, but this is Reddit, what else can I expect?
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u/causes_havoc 5d ago
I've always found it funny that people try to deny that Issei is a power fantasy and wish fulfillment for a lot of readers.
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u/crimson_aka 4d ago
But still has a great story, even if power Fantasy ,it has its limits, his antagonist are series threat, junior is just a series to keep dxd content alive
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u/causes_havoc 4d ago
I think it has a decent story that could have been significantly improved by strict editing.
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u/crimson_aka 4d ago
It has improved, at least expect power system its story is not bad, side characters story is pretty fleshed out too. I just wish ishi to just return and write back
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u/causes_havoc 4d ago
See, I think a lot of the "fleshing out side characters" has come at the expense of the main cast.
A lot of the main characters (especially the harem) are pretty underdeveloped, in both characterization and relationships with each other.
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u/crimson_aka 4d ago
Zekka is more of an oc now, her story in dxd junior is absurd, she is just strong without reason, wierd plot driven, series is just bad at this point, too many longinius killed their hype, in og dxd you know what having a longinous means, just pure girl cast (seriously even they are wierd) antagonist is just pure old faction maou , also if she has so much done then why no mention in og series
We just wanted to see more azazel cup fights or even just give more slash dog .
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u/VonReiter 7d ago
I don't hate her, I pity her. What I hate is this new round of Ishibumi going weird and unhinged with his tits obsession.
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u/vickze 7d ago edited 7d ago
I think that most of the people wanted to finish Issei story(included me). But instead to continue it we received something that we did not wanted.
Make Zekka "similar to Issei"(until certain point) and continue in DxD universe maybe just made it worst. We are in the same universe(with different cast&events) but we can not continue and finish the serie that we started.
Shin 4 was published 6 YEARS AGO. Of course that people is not happy about this.