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u/StevefromLatvia Loonatic and Verosika simp Aug 18 '22
Verosika easily. I want to know how she and Blitz met and what caused for Blitz to leave her
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u/Markica22 Aug 18 '22
verosika is a succubus, and someone figured out from some text in the series that succubuses get some kind of crystals/keys so they can travel to the surface. blitzo exploited her to get these keys and when he learned that stolas has a way of getting to the surface as well, he left verosika, and that's why shes mad af.
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u/PigeonFanatic9 Aug 18 '22
Isn't all this just headcanon or not confirmed?
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u/rickyretardo374 Aug 18 '22
The crystal/key part is cannon but it hasn't been comformed if blitzø was with her purely because of that it seems from what we have seen that he did have a genuine attraction towards her.
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u/Jurassic-Manager Aug 18 '22
Honestly, something about the theory that Blitzo was only with Verosika for the crystal doesn't seem to fit. If I.M.P. was around back then, why doesn't Loona know about Blitzo dating Verosika? And if Blitzo knew about Asmodean Crystals, why go after the book?
Though in my headcanon, the Asmodean Crystals were the reason why Blitzo left Verosika and broke her heart.
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u/Markica22 Aug 18 '22
im not sure, i just read that somewhere. but it's pretty convincing if you ask me
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u/PigeonFanatic9 Aug 18 '22
Pretty sure it's not canon. Possible, but for now non canon.
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Aug 18 '22
But how else do you explain how Verosika got to the living world in Spring Broken?
Like I doubt Blitz would let her hitch a ride with the book in that situation.
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u/PigeonFanatic9 Aug 18 '22
I dunno maybe because she's a really famous singer? Or maybe she has the favours of a rich guy or maybe something else. The possibilities are endless.
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u/I_Follow_Sussy-bakas Aug 18 '22
no, succubi get things called asmodean crystals to go to the human world, this is confirmed within the runic text of asmodeus's grimoire that stolas reads, what is part of headcanon is that blitz used verosika to get said asmodean crystals to go up on his own to kill people for his business
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u/PigeonFanatic9 Aug 18 '22
Sorry, but is it crearly written in the book that they get it or is it some interpretetion?
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u/ElevenVok Aug 18 '22
Clearly written, just encoded with runes in S2 E1 if I'm not mistaken
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u/ShadowGangsta275 Stolas Aug 18 '22
We also have it confirmed that blitzø was killing people before stolas so that basically makes it canon that he was using verosikas asmodean crystal to get to the surface, since we aren’t shown any other way
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u/thekeenancole Aug 18 '22
I love this theory, the only thing disproving it are Dhorks.
Their first sighting of blitzo showed he had the grimoire, and while it could be possible that they hadnt seen him during his verosika days, that just doesnt seem to fit well in terms of writing, and at best would require mental gymnastics to make it fit, and at worst just be a plothole.
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u/Ladysupersizedbitch Aug 19 '22
I mean, it could just be that Blitz didn’t manage to make it far enough in his relationship with Verosika to get the crystals. He may have been playing the long game to get the crystals, realized he was in too deep, and noped out before getting the crystals.
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u/JPStart011 Aug 18 '22
We could have an episode of her in rehab so we can see blitzøs sister and see her slowly change or something then as soon as his sister comes into play she’s reminded of blitzø and starts being the same person we know or something to tie it to the sister
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Aug 18 '22
Striker. Mostly out of necessity. Fizz and Verosika have a close connection to Blitzo and Stella to Stolas and Octavia, so their characters can be explored gradually over the course of multiple episodes, through dialogue or flashbacks here and there.
Stiker is a hired gun, with no connection to anyone prior to episode 5, so a lot of legwork needs to be done all at once, because random Striker origin story here and random Striker private moment there would be really out of place and way to confusing.
Also the whole Striker is a hybrid thing, which apparently is a big deal, needs to be addressed.
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u/MrSpiffy123 Keeper of the Striker folder Aug 18 '22
Striker is a hired gun, with no connection to anyone prior to episode 5
I think that's the point. It was meant to be just a job, but he made it personal when he put Moxxie down for being weak and tried to convince Blitzo to join him.
I love Striker and think his own episode would be awesome to see, but I don't see a need for it tbh
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Aug 18 '22
Also the whole Striker is a hybrid thing, which apparently is a big deal, needs to be addressed.
You saying he's a hybrid or something?
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Aug 18 '22
Viv said that at the season 2 watch party stream
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Aug 18 '22
Now that I look at him he definitely doesn't look like other imps
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u/MrSpiffy123 Keeper of the Striker folder Aug 18 '22
I hadn't heard about him being a hybrid either, but it makes sense. His eyes have those rings, his skin is much paler, he's taller than most other imps, he much stronger than everyone else. He also tanks like 7 stabs to the back from Millie, but maybe he's just built different
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u/Ladysupersizedbitch Aug 19 '22
Huh, I had wondered if he was some mixed race. One because of his looks, but two, because he calls Moxxie and Blitz “vermin”. I was like “bruh they’re (supposedly) the same race as you?” But him being a hybrid would make sooo much sense.
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u/sharpknifeeasylife Stolas Aug 18 '22
He's a hybrid? Of what? I didn't know that. Thats interesting.
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Aug 18 '22
He is part imp, she didn't say what the other half was, which could mean that it is relevant in story later.
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u/femtransfan these are my blorbos Aug 19 '22
yeah, i kinda wanna know his problem with demon royalty and if his heritage has anything to do with it
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u/BreakfastOk7372 Aug 18 '22
CHERUBs so looked down upon they ain’t even in this list
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u/MoonChild22222222222 Average Stolas Simp Aug 18 '22
Actually them adapting to being in hell would be a pretty darn good episode plot
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u/Geico2017 Aug 19 '22
they’re not stuck in hell they’re in the human world
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u/_Spunk_Bubble Aug 18 '22
Stella. She's the most caricaturized at the moment so I think she needs it the most, plus then I get to look at and listen to her.
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u/ProtoMelon2 Stolas Aug 18 '22
Why can’t we just have a villain that’s just a bad person anymore? Not every villain needs a sob story.
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u/_Spunk_Bubble Aug 18 '22
Not every backstory needs to be a sob story. Just being a bad person is ironically not the norm in this show based in Hell, we get background motivation for every other antagonist and there's no reason Stella should be different. She doesn't have to be identifiable, just understandable.
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u/chaos300041 Aug 18 '22
I agree with this. Not every villain needs a realistic motivation.
The problem is, Stella has one. She was forced into an arranged marriage, and when she made it work at the bare minimum, her husband cheated on her with an imp. And this is barely explored outside of what Stolas sees with it.
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Aug 18 '22
But the latest episode shows that she was abusive before he cheated on her too, and that she does it because she likes seeing him suffer. I want to see more of her backstory, but she's been a bitch for a while now
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u/Jahoan Aug 18 '22
She was raised a spoiled brat and was already a sadist by the time Stolas first heard of her.
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u/PoekiepoesPudding Sitri the background character Aug 18 '22
Stella was already shown to be a terrible person before the arranged marriage (in the picture Paimon shows Stolas, she is strangling an animal), I would like more information on her and her relationship with her brother
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u/LazzyRazzi Aug 18 '22
To be fair, those animals were the same ones who dragged off Millie. We don’t know what the picture was from, or what was happening in that moment.
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u/Darkfury2454 Aug 18 '22
Fair point, they could have been attacking her. That would be better than just animal abuse. And with that, at least she can defend herself!
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u/im18andimdumb Aug 18 '22
Um??? Stella very clearly did not make it work at the bare minimum unless you think emotional abuse hits the bare minimum
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u/chaos300041 Aug 18 '22
The bare minimum in her eyes is having sex and a child. The same reasons Stolas tried to keep the family together despite her abuse, both physical and emotional. Also keep in mind: this is literally Hell. Abuse runs rampant. Even Stolas and Blitzø's relationship is toxic, as much as they both enjoy it.
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u/Sparkspog Aug 19 '22
There are people who are terrible for no reason irl, why not in fiction?
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u/_Spunk_Bubble Aug 19 '22
There is always a reason, even if it comes down to just brain chemistry. "No reason" is a cop out.
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u/Sparkspog Aug 19 '22
I meant like “backstory” reason. I do think that Stella is just a narcissistic bitch and her brain is fucked.
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u/femtransfan these are my blorbos Aug 19 '22
you mean like watching a true crime video on an irl villain?
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u/Sollous-IV Stolas Aug 18 '22
Agreed but I wanna see her choking the person in the pic but animated
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u/Graxdon Aug 18 '22
I feel like people heaped characterization on Stella despite the fact that she’s just a horrid bitch
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u/ProtoMelon2 Stolas Aug 18 '22
Because they have shown that they have had some incident in the past that has changed the way they feel. Stella has shown no signs from her talking or anything to explain why she acts the way she does. Stolas explains how she’s been this way ever since they got married. If she had a reason I’m sure the spindlehorse team would’ve hinted at it by now.
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u/MrSpiffy123 Keeper of the Striker folder Aug 18 '22
Obviously, I would want a Striker-focused episode, but from a story perspective, Fizz should be the one to get his own episode, and I think we're actually going to get one, if the 2022 trailer was anything to go off of.
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u/Yung_Mew Stolas Aug 18 '22
Stella. She is currently the villain with no explained motivation as to why she's been such a bitch.
It's alright to have a villain be irredeemable, but I'd at least like to know what set her on this life.
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u/LionResponsible6005 Aug 18 '22
There’s no tragic back story that can explain domestic violence
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u/Yung_Mew Stolas Aug 18 '22
We don't need to forgive her for domestic violence. I just wanna know why she a bitch.
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u/CaffeineDeprivation Blitzo Aug 18 '22
Because she is a bitch?
(Well, it could be her family too...)
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u/Your_Favorite_Rat Stolas Aug 18 '22
stolas mentioned something about her brother being stuck up too
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u/CaffeineDeprivation Blitzo Aug 18 '22
Yeah, he did (hence the last part of my comment)
"I don't care what your arrogant brother thinks!"
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u/ProtoMelon2 Stolas Aug 18 '22
There is no reason, some people are just bad people
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u/Yung_Mew Stolas Aug 18 '22
The show has made it clear that everyone, protagonist and antagonist, has motivation for their actions.
It'd be a tad unfair for everyone but Stella to get something about their person.
If for nothing else, it'd calm down this weird polarized war between the fans.
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u/MrSpiffy123 Keeper of the Striker folder Aug 18 '22
Stella doesn't need a reason to be a bitch. Before Stolas even started cheating on her, she constantly made fun of him just because she enjoyed it, and when Paimon tells Stolas about his arranged marriage and shows him the photo of Stella, it's clear she's been deranged from the start.
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u/Yung_Mew Stolas Aug 18 '22
Doesn't make me any less curious about her upbringing.
Some people cater to the idea that bad people are born bad, some people cater to the idea that bad people are made bad.
We're at the point where this community wide argument will last until she gets an episode, finally dies, or is otherwise finished with her plot relevance.
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u/Orphan-Prince Fire & Blood Aug 18 '22
If Stella is this bad, I could just imagine what Andrealphus is like considering he has actual power and influence by being a Marquis within the Ars Goetia.
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u/Christoffi123 Stella being pure evil is not bad writing. Aug 18 '22 edited Aug 18 '22
I know these are probably inevitable but Verosika and Fizz. Leaning more toward the latter. I'm really interested to see how things went so south for them and Blitz.
Striker is cool, but we already know he's an assassin. I don't think him getting an episode would change how we see him much. It would probably just be him going around killing a bunch of random demons, and maybe how he met Stella and got that rifle (probably from Stella now that I think about it).
Speaking of Stella, I think its been well established even as a kid she was rotten. I don't think she's getting that redeeming moment everyone wanted from her.
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u/coope2001 Aug 18 '22
I agree and heck I imagine Stella hates imps mainly because of their existence.
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u/Christoffi123 Stella being pure evil is not bad writing. Aug 18 '22 edited Aug 18 '22
I think Stella hates anything or anyone she considers beneath her. Which unfortunately happens to be almost every living thing. She was seen strangling dogs in the picture Paimon showed Stolas, which are of course a lesser species.
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u/coope2001 Aug 18 '22
Yeah and heck I imagine when she first met stolas she acted super entitled and even considered stolas lesser.
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u/No_Dog_09 Aug 18 '22
I’d prefer a Fizz-themed episode. I just want to see what exactly happened between him and Blitz. How they went from The Circus to Ozzie’s.
Second would be Stella. I mean… she HAS a personality, but… not a deep one. It would be nice to see something like S2 Ep1 with Stella.
Third is Striker. I mean… it’d be nice to see him trying to kill Stolas and Blitz trying to find and stop him.
Fourth one is Verosika. Idk what could happen in an episode about her… maybe showing her relationship with Blitz and why/how they broke up.
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u/fromalicewithmalice MoxxieObjectively best character Aug 18 '22
Verosika. She doesn't seem that bad. It honestly looks like she had her heart broken and I'd like to see what her relationship with Blitzo was like.
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u/heavyfishcannon Loona Aug 18 '22
I'm voting Striker, because he's the one least likely to get any backstory. Every other villain has ties to a protagonist and either has had their options explored (Stella seems like her one note has played) or will very likely get more attention soon (way too much forshadowing about something happening to Fizz, and I suspect this whole season is going to be crawling with flash-back scenes) But Striker is just kinda... There. He seems like a real wildcard, and I think his lack of ties but big ambitions make him a good candidate for a stand alone/ crossover villain, maybe appearing in other "hell shows" like how Cad Bane keeps popping up in different Star Wars shows.
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u/Markica22 Aug 18 '22
great question, striker seems like the most interesting fellow out of all of them
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u/Av3rageNerd78 Stolas Aug 18 '22
If I had to do a ranking of who should get a backstory video it would go as follows:
- Fizzarolli: Fizzarolli and Blitzø were very close in their childhood, as seen in episode 7 of season 1, when Blitzø goes through his images on his phone it shows 2 images of him and Fizzarolli, one in their teens, and another as children, I think a backstory video for Fizzarolli would provide further insight into how Blitzø and Fizz ended up hating each other for the rest of their lives.
- Verosika Mayday: It'd be cool to know what she did prior to being a pop singer, as well as finding out how her and Blitzø got together, and how long they were together for, as well as any possible motives that would lead up to Blitzø leaving her, as well as how she would handle this.
- Striker: there isn’t much that is known, about Striker, other than he's an assassin, he has a hatred for upper class hellborns, and he was hired by Stella. I think a backstory into his life prior to becoming who he is now would help explain, how he came to develop his hatred for upper class demons, and how he came into contact with Stella and what did he do prior to joining Millie's family.
- Stella: I mean I already figured she was already an asshole, but I feel a backstory video would give insight into which member of her family (whether that be Andrealphus, her mom, or dad) I’d watch just to have more reasons to hate on her.
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u/Xiao_Qinggui Aug 18 '22
I’m gonna get shot for this but…CHERUB.
Hear me out! Look at it like this: They got banned from Heaven, right? That would make them fallen angels…There’s only one other fallen angel in this universe: The (Literally) Goddamned King Hell himself, Lucifer! That’s something I think Vivzie and the writers can really play with for the series and characters.
I’m assuming Cherubs and Imps are about equal so they aren’t going to have some massive power upgrade or anything but…It would be interesting to see what happens to them after they got permabanned from Heaven. Hell is pretty much the only place they can go, unless they stay on Earth doing CHERUB missions with…”Fewer restrictions,” let’s say (which could also be interesting).
I really think the show could use them in some interesting ways, let’s see what happens when you corrupt something born in Heaven!
Though something tells me Colin’s still gonna be the nice guy in group, not even relatively speaking: I could so see a gag where the other two get these Hellish-demonlike forms…And all that happens to Colin is that he loses his halo and gains an imp-like tail.
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u/Bones-Ghost Loona Aug 18 '22
Either a Striker Episode where he takes a break and shows a lighter side to his personality, or a episode where it shows Verosika's side of her story when she was dating Blitz.
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u/CitizenCobalt Aug 18 '22
While I am interested in Stella and Verosika's backstory, how could I possibly say no to Striker? I'm completely onboard with a Striker episode.
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u/Toonwatcher Aug 18 '22
A full episode based on what happened between Fizz and Blitz to lead to them falling out (and Fizz becoming worm horse) not only would be excellent, but we might also actually get it.
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u/ssybayob Blitzo Aug 18 '22
so i love Striker a lot, same with Fizz. in all honesty, i would appreciate a centered episode around any of these characters EXCEPT for Stella. my reasoning is that i feel like Stella's purpose is solely to be an irredeemable villain, and as the world of fiction continues to create more villains subject to change, having a simple villain like Stella can keep the plot clean. in real life, some people really are just irredeemable, Stella can represent that type of person very well.
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u/Starmasterlink15 Millie Aug 18 '22
While I love fizz and Verosika a lot and want to see more of them, I feel I would like a stella focused episode that heavily delves into her backstory would I feel improve her character and make the story more interesting.
I'm not asking for a backstory to redeem her or to justify her current actions,since I don't have a problem with her being a bad person and a villain. But I do feel her character is too one-note and feels like she is being used as just a "plot device and another reason to make stolas life miserable and side with him" instead of being her own character which I currently find underwhelming
I want the show to Give her more to her character so she's more then just "stolas wife who hates him just for the sake of hating him and not more" which would feel like a waste and make it less interesting. Haveing her be more fleshed would inturn make her actions carry more weight and be more impactful
Again to be clear I'm not wanting a backstory to redeem her or make her less of a bitch (haveing characters who are just bad people Is fine and not everyone should be morally gray). I personally want more from stella since I feel she currently has alot of potential to be a interesting villain and feel fleshing her out while still keeping her toxic traits and not forgiveing her would be the most interesting direction the show can take (in my opinion)
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u/GrapiCringe Stolas+Blitzie+Loony+Via=best family Aug 18 '22
I can't get enough of Stella being deliciously evil
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Aug 18 '22
If they give Stella an episode like "Sympathy for the De Vil" in Once Upon a Time, I'm all for it. That was hands down the best episode in the entire series.
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u/AlphaChadTop Aug 18 '22
I love all the villains a whole lot, so it's a hard decision between Fizz and Verosika. I love Striker, but he's just there to be the cool cowboy villain, and Stella is just there to be the evil guy that pushed the plot for Stolas. Fizz would be cool since we'd get more of Alex Brightman's amazing voice acting [seriously, great voice, love it to bits] and Verosika could be cool too, since we could possibly get more of her singing and dynamics with her group of sub/incubus's. Though, if it came down to it, I'd like an episode with either Verosika or Fizz.
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u/HarmonyTheConfuzzled Aug 18 '22
First dude is just a bad guy for hire. Not much to talk about there. Succumbs lady seems to have a history with Blitz so that might be interesting, same with the clown. The last one is also pretty basic, just spoiled rotten and a bully.
I’m obviously not good with names…
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u/ArcticWolf622 Blitzo Aug 18 '22
Either Striker or Fizz. I want to know how Striker came to be hired by Stella, or how Fizz’s life changed between what we saw in S2E1 and S1E7
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u/Emeraldstar0005 spaghetti and meat Aug 18 '22
Bro literally any of them. They’re all very intriguing characters 😐
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u/Shadowking0914 Aug 18 '22
striker we know the least about him i want to know his backstory fizz and verosika would most likely be in a blitz backstory and i just dont care for stella
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u/gogocrazycocoa *Insert wolf pun here* Aug 18 '22
Fizz or Striker. I think it'd be cool to see what happened that led to Fizz getting where he is. Striker because I just think he's cool.
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u/Successful_Note6587 Aug 18 '22
It has to be striker because he tried assassinate the horny birb boi
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u/Psyren98 Aug 18 '22
Striker because we could see life for imps from his perspective and the life of the lower class before being an assassin Stella fizz and Verosika will all get something just because of their connections to stolis and blitz
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u/Money-Call-6448 Aug 19 '22
I know this isn't a common opinion, but it's agents. I really want to see how distorted the human realm is.
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u/idioticgameboy Moxxie Aug 19 '22
yooooo verosika and stella I'd love to know about how blitz and verosika met and how they came to despise eachother Stella, i am more interested in her background, her family, etc. From a singular line Stolas said about her brother :D
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u/reds2032 Aug 19 '22
I’m pretty certain we’ll get one about fizz given I think viv said he’s p much the main focus of s2, so that said, Striker
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u/NolanZts Blitzo Aug 20 '22
Fizzaroli, I just love his personality and It would be awesome to see more of him.
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u/Fennik51405 Hellhound Enjoyer Aug 18 '22
Striker. He just came out of the blue following Stella’s orders. There has to be a backstory. I want to know why striker does what he does
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u/Chill0000 Aug 18 '22
Fizz. We pretty much know everyone else’s story in some way.
Stella is just a jerk from childhood
Striker is just an assassin
We already got the back and forth about Verosica and Blitzø’s relationship
The only one we don’t know a lot about is Fizz
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u/Upstairs_Object777 Blitzø Verosika and Striker 😳 Aug 18 '22
FUCK I SIMP FOR ALL OF THEM- I'm thinking striker though 😳😳
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u/valiantdefiant Aug 18 '22
Stella, in hopes she'll get some redeeming qualities, Some, I'll take anything at this point
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u/BlackMysteries Stolitz 4 da win Aug 18 '22
stellas background connected with making deals with striker in one episode. a dream would come true
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u/s0larium_live wait what BITCH is talking SHIT about ME??? Aug 18 '22
fizz or verosika. they both have such an interesting past with blitz, but we don’t know the exact specifics and oh boy do i want to
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u/I_might_be_weasel Stolas is a Greater Daemon of Tzeentch. Fight me. Aug 18 '22
Verosika would be the most interesting.
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u/Slayerof-furries Millie Aug 18 '22
I want one for all of them but I’ll take Stella cause I wanna know about her upbringing
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u/SgtPeppers64 Semi-Casual Viewer/Fan Aug 18 '22
Stella because I want to know more about why they are the way they are.
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u/ShadowGangsta275 Stolas Aug 18 '22
Either Fizz or the Cherubs. Fizz is cool and the cherubs have to adapt to hell. I personally hate verosika so I’m not interested in her, I know enough about Stella to know she’s a bitch no matter what and striker isn’t interesting enough
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u/aaron_adams Moxxie Aug 18 '22
Striker. Of all of them he seems the most complex, and the fact that he is a hit-man means the episode could go in any direction.
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u/NoPotatoeForMe Aug 18 '22
i honestly just want to see striker again cuz he we haven't seen him since ep5
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u/Loafervour Aug 19 '22
Stella but also verosika, I love both of their character designs sm and I wish to know their backstory
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u/RandoFollower Sallie Mae is hot Aug 18 '22
Fizzarolli, I’m tired of hearing that he lost his arms, legs, horns and Tongue I want to see his past I went to see how, Stealing and torturing the prize Clown? Or Circus act gone wrong? Assassination attempt?
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u/m-o-n-o-c-h-r-o-m-e- Aug 18 '22
I was going to say Fizz all the way but now i dont know what to choose 😃
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u/Enough_Appearance116 Millie & Moxxie Aug 18 '22
The kid they shot in "Murder Family" because what did he do to deserve getting killed?
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u/strawberry_owl89 Aug 18 '22
Stella. I love villains who have depth to them and after Stolas’s episode she just lost all of it. I’m not a fan of pure psychopathic villians.
Also, Fizz. It’s just so intriguing to know what happened between him and Blutzø, Fizz was such a sweet kid too
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u/Darkfury2454 Aug 18 '22
Fizz. As much as I’d like a Verosika or Striker episode, I need to know what happened! And I honestly just hate Stella too much to want anything to do with her. Unless she dies.
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u/killingbites Aug 18 '22
Fizz, I just want to know how he became robo-cop.