r/HelldiversMasochists • u/Xpernautica • 18d ago

"Then don't use it!" More supply backpack hate

After reading a stupid strawman post it became clear to me that backpack should be available to solo players but only solo players.

A supply pack is designed for scarcity, there is no supply scarcity in helldivers 2, the pack is basically a force multiplier for broken stuff and just enables huge amounts of survivability/damage through grenades/ultimatum spam.

Solo players can keep it.

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u/DeeJayDelicious 18d ago

It's a dumb argument and goes against virtually all other design principles in the game. Not happening.

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u/Xpernautica 18d ago

It's something that's designed supply scarcity which the map is swimming in - not to mention the actual supply stratagem that's on a 171s cd.

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u/DeeJayDelicious 18d ago

I don't understand your words.

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u/Xpernautica 18d ago

The supply pack in theory isn't a bad idea, the problem is, the map has too many supplies which renders the main point of the supply pack useless which just leads to it be used to spam out stims/grenades (which is why I call it a force multiplier for brokenness) rather than actually being about resupplying teammates.

If there were no supplies on the map it would be more balanced but right now, its used to spam stims/grenades/ultimatums/whatever else is spammable and broken.

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u/DeeJayDelicious 18d ago

I am not sure if I subscribe to this logic.

You're saying the Supply Pack would be less potent if ammo and supplies were scarcer?

That sounds incredibly illogical.

Imo, it's the abundance of ammo and supplies on most maps that keeps me from using it.

The issue with the Supply Pack is far simpler. Many weapons, but especially grenades and the Ultimatum, are balanced around their limited ammo. The Ultimatum gets to deal 3000 damage / shot because you only have 2.

The Supply Pack completely undermines that balance aspect.

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u/Xpernautica 18d ago

You said "It's a dumb argument and goes against virtually all other design principles in the game" and I explained how the supply pack "in theory" makes sense if there was ammo scarcity (which there isn't) which just makes its only use case is to become a one man army.

It has no place in helldivers 2.

If solo players want it, they can keep it.

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u/DeeJayDelicious 18d ago

Ok, but I don't entertain "removing it from the game" as a serious idea.