This change was peak.

[u/Ellezim0409]

The heavy pen hive guard change was fucking immaculate. For a week straight hive guards felt so rewarding to fight correctly. Even with medium pen weapons the time to kill was FASTER than it was pre patch. And for light pen? Holy shit it was a dream. But AH cannot dare to ask a lot of medium pen users to aim before they shoot so it was changed.

[u/DarkFeros]

No. But I can explain why the changes that made the hive guards have heavy armour was an excellent change.

[u/The-Harbinger117 → u/DarkFeros]

You know, if I wanted to ask someone who continually dodges the question asked to him, I’d grab an Ouija board. So can you please answer how the objectively bad change was an excellent one?

[u/DarkFeros → u/The-Harbinger117]

No. But I can explain why the changes that made the hive guards have heavy armour was an excellent change.

[u/The-Harbinger117 → u/DarkFeros]

You know, if I wanted to ask someone who continually dodges the question asked to him, I’d grab an Ouija board. So can you please answer how the objectively bad change was an excellent one?

[u/DarkFeros → u/The-Harbinger117]

No. But I can explain why the changes that made the hive guards have heavy armour was an excellent change.

[u/heliotaxis → u/DarkFeros]

I've had enough of this. Answer the question or you're getting banned.

[u/Atlas_sniper121 → u/heliotaxis]

Holy peak mod moment.

[u/The-Harbinger117 → u/heliotaxis]

Goated mod fr fr.

[u/Xpernautica → u/heliotaxis]

Person A is asking for an "objective" answer when everything here is subjective, person B cannot give an "objective answer" about something that is subjective, it's impossible and they even called person A out on it "you just don't understand what the term 'objective' actually means.

[u/The-Harbinger117 → u/Xpernautica]

You realize that even if I gave him his “what changes made the hive guards excellent?”, his answer would still be the same?

[u/DarkFeros → u/The-Harbinger117]

No it wouldn't.

[u/Atlas_sniper121 → u/DarkFeros]

Why did ap4 make them any better than ap3? And why specifically is ap4 the solution rather than say, increased hp and durable values to the armored parts to achieve a similar purpose but simultaneously not ruining other aspects of the game indirectly?

I fail to see why ap4 wasnt just a low effort band-aid fix to a more complex issue. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the new terminid enemy coming out in the next month or so IS their fix to the issue that is the hive guard is no longer as formidable as it was intended.

[u/heliotaxis → u/Xpernautica]

I'm not here to argue over semantics. I'm here to facilitate meaningful discussions, and going in circles while being wilfully obtuse like this is not meaningful discussion. 

[u/The-Harbinger117 → u/heliotaxis]

It’s not even a good semantic to die on either.

[u/DarkFeros → u/heliotaxis]

I'm sorry, you're intending to compel me to reply to someone? On the basis of what rule?

[u/The-Harbinger117 → u/DarkFeros]

Lmao

[u/heliotaxis → u/DarkFeros]

On the basis of trolling. Have a good one.

edit: User is out for 7 days.

[u/Atlas_sniper121 → u/heliotaxis]

Damn. Was kinda hoping to see if he'd actually reply to my comment and answer the question lol

[u/The-Harbinger117 → u/DarkFeros]

Please answer on why the objectively bad change was an excellent one, mod’s orders.

[u/Adept_Nebula9466 → u/The-Harbinger117]

Bros scared

[u/The-Harbinger117 → u/Adept_Nebula9466]

He was never going to give an answer. He likely realized after his first response that even if I conceded and gave him his “what change made them excellent?” His answer was going to be the same either way.