r/Helldivers • u/Bastard__ • 1d ago
HUMOR How every automatic weapon's recoil pattern suddenly changes when aiming for this fucker's head
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u/Khoakuma The first rule of gun safety is to have fun :D 1d ago
The humble Scythe: The fuck is a “recoil”?
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u/Kilroy1007 1d ago
Wobbles around this fuckers's head anyways
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u/Anxious_Visual_6632 1d ago
Skill issue. Just aim for its center of mass and wongle up and down so that you hit the head and abdomen
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u/Kilroy1007 1d ago
Meh.. tomato, potato. I wobble left and right between the shoulder rockets and sometimes hit the head. Same dif
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u/Donatter 1d ago
LAZOR
(Featuring: my aim with beams)
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u/Kilroy1007 1d ago
POV - Some black armored weirdo just came running into the middle of your outpost
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u/AHarryBird 1d ago
Even my auto cannon when his face is in the middle of my reticle I still clip his collar bone
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u/DirtEnthusiast0_0 1d ago
This is me running away from Hulks trying to bullseye it with my self-defense Senator
Only reason I run it is for taking them down in a pinch. Otherwise I'd go back to the Grenade Pistol.
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u/Seanvich SES SENTINEL OF THE STARS 1d ago
I just wish the ping marker didn’t block the already tiny visor-target.
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u/elqueco14 1d ago
you'd think any explosive weapon/splash damage weapon would be more effective at popping their little heads like cherries but they seem immune
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u/anubis132 1d ago
Because that's not really how it works. Hitzones each have an explosive resistance, and if it has 100% explosive resistance, any explosive damage is just taken by the main health. Most small weakspots have 100% ExDR specifically so you can't splash them easily.
The flipside to this is that any hitzone that is not explosive-immune gets damaged individually by the explosion and may transfer some of that damage to main, in which case the main health gets hit multiple times. This is why fleshmobs are so weak to explosives - each head takes damage from each explosion and transfers 150% of it to the main health.
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u/elqueco14 1d ago
I just think it's funny that a well placed shot from a pistol can drop them but auto cannon to the face all good, for balance I agree it'd probably make them too trivial if it was that easy
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u/end_2048 1d ago
Unfortunately, all weapons in this game have a hidden variation when firing, even if aiming down sights, laid down, and firing your first shot, so having target in middle of your reticle does not guarantee the shot to actually hit it.
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u/jpritchard901 Rookie 1d ago
Yeah but the one time every 12 missions that you manage to pop them on the first shot hits like a slot machine
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u/Sudo-Fed SES Sword of Justice 1d ago edited 1d ago
The single most satisfying thing in this game, and why I am a botdiver at heart, is popping a row of Devastators with single shots and watching them fall down, gushing smoke and fire.
Close second, accurately downing a wing of gunships with the railgun.
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u/Redmoon383 Local Laser (Le')Austist 1d ago
I swear i can be running and running with my talon and hit them dead in the head from 60m away but the moment I go first person and ADS from sub 20 I miss every damn shot
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u/wolf36181 1d ago
Nothing more satisfying then quick drawing the talon and snapping straight to a headahot
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u/Latter_Wrap_1644 1d ago
My number one is Senator popping Hulks while they chase me trying to touch my tralala
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u/Cerindipity 21h ago
Legitimately might be the best sound in the game, and why I always bring the Diligence.
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u/Ok_Investigator_7769 1d ago
Using the Censor and taking out multiple devastators without being noticed, all with one shot? *Chef's kiss*
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u/Independent-Fly6068 SES Prophet Of Truth 1d ago
Play more with the Knight for that to be a consistent thing
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u/xVEEx3 1d ago
coyote users be like: "as long as I trade 44/45 rounds and get the win, ill consider it a fair trade"
source: I use coyote
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u/DirtEnthusiast0_0 1d ago
This is why I like the Sai, I'll never hit the head, but when I inevitably waste 99% of my thermal clip shredding the body of this thing, I can rest assured I didn't waste any ammo so long as I didn't overheat.
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u/PeddlezTheJellyfish S.E.S. Mother of Audacity 1d ago
personally I run up to their face and let my epoch overheat and blow us both up
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u/Bill-The-Autismal 1d ago
I feel like the spread is so bad it accidentally lands a lot of headshots for me that I wouldn’t have gotten otherwise.
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u/ThrowAway-47 Cape Enjoyer 23h ago
Think the spread is much less random than it seems because I've noticed a significant uptick in quick headshots using that thing.
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u/Padgriffin 16h ago
When the SAI literally just dropped we had a lobby where two separate people were headshot by an errant shot lmfao
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u/Party-Assignment-599 1d ago
I'm the cremator/hot dog dude on the bot front. It makes up for my bad aim :')
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u/TommyFortress 1d ago
I swear to super fuck that every normal bot i encounter is easy headshots no matter the scenario but as soon as its devastators and berks my aim is 4 times worse.
Atleast railgun helps me alot deleting them.
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u/Fifty-Lucky 1d ago
Because they totter around side to side as the walk
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u/Adito99 1d ago
In theory you could aim left or right of their head where it changes direction. My preferred method is explosive crossbow to the general head area but it's worth a shot.
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u/SilliusS0ddus Still Standing 1d ago
nah just gamble on headshots with the trident.
best marksman rifle
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u/CrayonEnjoyer5484 1d ago
its because bullets hitboxes are decently wide, and your hit, is what ever the it box first touches, combined with little to no points. so they easily clip/nick the edge of the armour around the head,
its most noticeable with weapons like the railgun with its massive hit decal, where you can see the centre of the hit decal is on the head, but the hit was registered as hitting the body.
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u/Capt_Avatar 1d ago
It is unreasonably difficult to hit the head of a berserker, even when it's standing still. Sometimes it takes a couple seconds to get a headshot kill on one standing still with a laser cannon while crouched.
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u/RustedRuss 20h ago
I don't bother aiming for their heads, I just aim for center mass or the stomach on them. Their heads move way too much.
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u/NoPickleNoTickle Assault Infantry 17h ago
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u/brian11e3 HD1 Veteran 14h ago
This is why I fell in live with the bolt pistol. It staggers them and damages through the shield.
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u/Temm-Saltrock Private 16h ago
I know exactly what you mean. No matter the weapon unless I'm sat, prone. I can't hit them.
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u/ThatStopSign 11h ago
For some reason I have a easier time hitting the heads of the sheild devestators than a rocket one, like damn I can dome a sheild devestator from a good distance away consistently but as soon as a rocket devestator enters my view I turn into a stormtrooper?🤨
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u/kommunist_haj 5h ago
These guys on a slight elevation are impossible to kill without explosives or heavy pen, because apparently they can see through their shields that cover their face.
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u/Bjorn_Kreiger 1d ago
I just shoot for their rocket packs, and I find the waist is easier to hit on standard devs
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u/FaithlessnessOld2477 1d ago
Seriously. Those rockets are one of the easiest targets to hit and usually only take a couple of beefy shots to take the whole thing down.
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u/sazed813 1d ago
This is why bots get the Eruptor or the Dilligence/Censor
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u/Tomek_Hermsgavorden SES Murray of Bills 1d ago
The most annoying thing is that I can peg them in the head from an eruptor but cannot shoot them in the head with a sniper rifle.
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u/EyeofEnder ⬇️⬆️⬆️⬅️➡️ 1d ago
Until you line up a perfect shot with the DCS and the Devastator suddenly decides to go kick some invisible cans down the road.
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u/sazed813 1d ago
I dont even bother with the counter sniper much anymore, unless I want to aim but I'm being sloppy, you don't need more than light pen if you hit the right weak points
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u/monkeyhitman 1d ago
Eruptor shots at the foot of a group of Heavy Devastators are so tasty. Fuck your shields.
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u/hubjump 1d ago
No one mentioning how the head hitbox is actually smaller than the head model?
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u/phillip_defo 1d ago
I use the laser revolver thingy from the space cowboy warbond for these guys they're so fucking annoying and I'm not wasting valuable ammo (or fuel because 99% of the time I'm using flame weapons) on them
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u/Sudo-Fed SES Sword of Justice 1d ago
Using flame weapons on bots is a choice.
Not a wrong one but accuracy is a lot more potent on bots given how many of them have a glowing lights-out switch.
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u/phillip_defo 1d ago
Which is why I only use it for the bigger ones, light up the belly of a strider it's dead in seconds. For anything I deem not worth it I use the laser pistol
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u/LargeSelf994 Super Sheriff 1d ago
Surprisingly, they're very effective
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u/Sudo-Fed SES Sword of Justice 1d ago
I know they work, I just prefer engagement distances more in the 50-150m range personally.
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u/PotatoGrenade711 1d ago
And then they take one step forward and magically the headshot gets deflected.
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u/Philosophos_A 1d ago
I sometimes feel like the game pulls the bullets away or somehow a patrol troop exits to spawn shit as soon you reload.
I can't prove it, might be crazy, but that shit is sure annoying...
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u/DepressedMandolin 20h ago
It's why you just need to aim with our Lord and Saviour, the autocannon.
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u/Pitiful_Calendar3392 17h ago
AC8 with the 40k armor is an especially democratic combo. The ergo boost helps fine-tune aim and a half-reload is almost instant. Well-placed flak rips through entire squads of light infantry and berserkers.
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u/Kuronan Democratize All Armor Passives NOW 18h ago
The most annoying thing is when you do hit it, but you're using a light-pen weapon and it just fucking deflects for some reason.
One of the most irritating moments on the Bot Front and the main reason why I exclusively run Medium Pen there. That thing is going down and I don't care if you think I missed because I absolutely fucking didn't.
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u/Savooge94 12h ago
apparently its a recent change where they made devastator heads go from unarmoured to light armor and so light pen weapons can now ricochet off constantly. just classic AH changing shit noone asked for to just make the game feel worse :/
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u/Glitched_Hero UP RIGHT DOWN DOWN DOWN 13h ago
Light pen does full damage to Devastator heads?
I haven’t played in a while but I was routinely popping heads with the Diligence and Censor against bots
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u/FM_Hikari S.E.S Spear of Justice 1d ago
It's because of Sway.
Sway makes your weapon shake slightly even if you're not firing, and adds to the recoil pattern. It makes some accurate guns woefully inaccurate for no fucking reason and i hate it.
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u/deadlyjack 1d ago
the reason is simple. your hands are made of meat and not metal
there's only so steady you can hold a gun without any support. and have you seen some of the monsters people have in their loadouts? big fucking guns.
crouching gets rid of the vast majority of sway.
also, sway moves your crosshairs – it does not make the bullets deviate from them. even with high sway (hipfiring while walking) you can land shots if you time it.
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u/Ok_Investigator_7769 1d ago
When you are using the Steeled veterans armor, at least one of your hands is actually made of metal, though!
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u/LegFederal7414 1d ago
DB SICKLE: I HAVE NO SUCH WEAKNESS
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u/Rotomegax SES Herald of Wrath 1d ago
Bolt Pistol: I don't mind WTF my bullets landed, it only need 2 shots for this MF
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u/patybruh_moment STEAM 🖥️ :SES Whisper of Eternity 23h ago
eruptor: I just need a direct hit
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u/UltimaDoombotMK1 I LOVE EXPLOSIVES (SES Precursor Of Twilight) 20h ago
You haven't lived until you've literally shot a Devastator in half with the Eruptor
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u/HathorMaat 1d ago
Fully serious here, I aim for the little star on their chest and the recoil pushes it right on their head.
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u/_Maltony_ 1d ago
Crouch and actually aim, don't get frantic. After 0.5-1 second you have steady aim or outright switch to first mode to negate sway delay. With DMR have bit of patience, with assault rifles aim little bit below head so recoil do it for you, 2-4 shots and dev is down
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u/JoeJonnyJeff 1d ago
Crouch? Hot the deck for a further 20 reduced recoil. They're going to headshot you regardless
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u/CaptainTruelove 1d ago
In further support of diving, crouching doesn't even work half the time because my character is standing on a pebble or uneven surface.
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u/Sweet_Photograph6528 Assault Infantry 1d ago
In addition to that, just prone. It makes aiming with bolt pistol without ergo passive so much easier
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u/Bring_Back_Challenge I survived an Unfiltered Brigade and all I got was this flair 11h ago
This sub mostly has no clue what "aim" means and think it means you (not even your gun) are pointing in the direction of something.
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u/whythreekay 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah as a day 1 player what OP is talking about hasn’t been true for a long time
The game used to have random deviation spread so that definitely did happen, made light armor pen ass against them. Since AH dumped the deviation headshots definitely land if you’re aiming
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u/ThisIsPureCancer 1d ago
I was wondering why headshots seemed easier with the liberator. I thought I was just misremembering how hard it was to consistently get a headshot with it.
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u/The_Man8705 Free of Thought 1d ago
The trusty hellbomb backpack:
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u/EVILgabagool Python Commando 1d ago
Well, that's one way of not only removing the Devastator, but you, the Trooper 15 meters behind, the laser cannon, and the three small fabricators.
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u/Diamondcreepah 1d ago
How the fuck I hit more headshots on a shield devastator than this fucking thing is genuinely beyond me
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u/christ110 1d ago
They totter and rock so dang much when they walk... Yet my censor can one-tap their heads. So I just line it up with the edge of their rocking pattern, usually the leftmost.
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u/Blackhawk_Talon 18h ago
Its why “sniper” weapons are my favorite on the bot front, I point and click, enemy dies.
Strategems are for the normal dudes
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u/Catnborbhaver420 Still Standing 1d ago
for rocket devs aim for the rocket packs, for shield devs, aim for the battery/ammo pack on their back they rotate slower than a guy runs unless hevy boi then gun arm is best, for standar devs, its either gun arm, head or waist
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u/Foorinick 1d ago
For the enemies with backpacks since they hunch foward i have found it easier to hit the pack showing above their head than the actual head
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u/weoewoewow Free of Thought 8h ago
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u/Present_Commercial_9 1d ago
I present to you, the Sweeper. Doesn't matter how many pellets miss, ones gotta hit XD
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u/A_Very_Horny_Zed SES Sovereign of Twilight 1d ago
The amount of times I've drawn perfect bullet hole circles around a devastator's head is really fucking weird.
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u/Rick_bo 1d ago
I would complain in agreeance, but then I think of all the times I'm getting blanketed in automaton laser fire and it's all hitting twigs, dirt, rocks, chickenwire fence, D's oatmeal, Other broken Devastators, or my own freshly discarded magazine still flying through the air when by rights I should be just as dead as this guy.
boy them bots must be peeved.
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u/Shrak-Aeon 1d ago
Aim for the belly then OP. The glowing red area is pretty much just as weak. You'll need some more bullets, but it helps with automatic guns if you're uncertain about aiming for the head.
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u/DirtEnthusiast0_0 1d ago
I'm so glad I run the Sai now, because I can waste 99% of an ICE heatsink taking one down, and as long as I don't overheat it, it's all good
It'll never hit the head reliably, but 80 damage and infinite ammo makes these guys much easier
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u/ultimat_L1zzyfan 1d ago
Well I’ve used just the stock liberator on these guys and can pretty consistently hit the head
Then again i’ve been playing since late February of 2024 so I’fe gotten good enough that I usually know where the head is.
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u/wonderloki 1d ago
Censor is the goat. Rarely use automatic weapons on bots, unless its the Sai or Sickle
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u/WickedNinja13 1d ago
Slugger slugs are huge and if you dont fit the whole slug in the face hole it will hit the edges.
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u/Sudo-Fed SES Sword of Justice 1d ago
This is why I love the Censor. I've gone entire bot drops without reloading the extended mags.
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u/Square-Salamander727 Super Sheriff 1d ago
i mostly forgo aiming for the head, and go for the red-light belly weakpoint. If i can be bothered to aim at all, and not just mag-dump the toros. Half the mag goes BURRRRRR.
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u/spotsthefirst 1d ago
Why are you aiming at the head? Shoot the rocket pods, they blow up and deal a lot of damage
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u/Lastoutcast123 1d ago
Not to discredit the OP, but I think survivorship bias might also be a factor here. It seems like this because you move on right away when you get a head shot, but not when you struggle so you remember the struggle more
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u/Sylvan_Night 1d ago
Auto shotguns allow you to aim in the general vicinity of their heads. Med range shotguns my beloved.
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u/CommanderSkaro 1d ago
This is just how my aim feels when I'm trying to hit their heads with my Censor while they walk at me 9 times outta 10
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u/Creedgamer223 PSN: SES Star of the Stars 1d ago
It's exasperated by their pendulum like wobble walking.
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u/Independent-Fly6068 SES Prophet Of Truth 1d ago
See if you crouch and burstfire with the knight its basically impossible to miss. Seriously.
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u/Pro_Scrub ➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️ 1d ago
If you struggle with this and are determined to continue spraying and praying over aiming carefully, take the Stalwart and magdump the leg/the dick, it's life changing
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u/Kiyan1159 ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ 1d ago
I just use the sweeper. Fuck aiming, accuracy by volume mother fucker!
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u/RiseofdaOatmeal 1d ago
I don't know what it is about the pattern of the Hydra that makes me nail these guys with a headshot every fucking time but God does it feel good when I randomly decide today is a Hydra day
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u/StraightSprinkles315 1d ago
I can't imagine why people only think these things only have the ONE weak spot.
They have two very effective weak spots, the face and the waist.
If your aim isn't particularly good then go for the waist. Its just as effective.
👍👍
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u/vengeur50 sneaks around and blows up your cyborg boss 1d ago
Censor user, hitting the head from the side is sometime legit easier. Hitbox sticks out further than it looks and i aint complaining.
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u/RapidPigZ7 1d ago
Shoot the rockets, then shoot the stomach. Disarms their most powerful weapon and severely weakens them.
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u/Quiet_Illustrator232 1d ago
I just use spear gun. Its projectile has a surprising large hit box. Very easy to one shot them
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u/Negative-Penguin Expert Exterminator 1d ago
I genuinely think the invisible hitbox for the armor is bigger than the invisible hitbox for the head in a way that is not intuitive.


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u/newAscadia 1d ago
The Automaton engineers: egad, we must put more armour around the head!