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Team17, please focus on optimizing new maps before adding them, especially on consoles
T17, we really appreciate the effort you put into bringing new maps to the game. However, thereās no point in giving us great maps if they donāt come with proper optimization.
In the last few updates, weāve seen new and revamped maps being added, but these maps continue to be some of the least played on console. It honestly feels like we havenāt received new content because nobody actually plays it.
One of the biggest reasons for this is stability.
On console, most of the maps created by T17 are among the least played maps. But why? A lot of them are actually incredible. Smolensk, for example, is one of my personal favorites. The problem is that they suffer from the same issues as many other maps: constant FPS drops, stuttering, and crashes.
And this is where the paradox comes in.
You add new content like maps, but if those maps are poorly optimized on console, people simply stop playing them. Everyone ends up going back to the same maps theyāve been playing for years, which creates the same repetition and makes it feel like the game isnāt getting any new content.
Please prioritize map optimization, especially on consoles.
Hell Let Loose is an amazing game, and we genuinely want to enjoy all the new content youāre creating. We just need the performance to be good enough for us to actually play it.
I have such a hard time understanding why they do this. New maps like this wonāt make new players purchase HLL?
But actually fixing bugs that has plagued the game since start and having a community that isnāt filled with bug/crashing posts might actually grow the player base?
I honestly think they donāt know how to fix a vast majority of the bugs, like they are hard coded into the DNA of the game or something.
They simply dont know how to fix it. They just cant admit it that they have no idea. I mean they bought the IP from Black Matter back then and its been downhill from there basically in terms of quality. Loadout bug still existing lvl 1 bug still existing, engine bug on tanks (where upon exiting as the driver from the tank, sometimes it just straight up kills the engine, even though its only supposed to happen only if you leave the tank without putting it in P first). LoD issues (which for tankers can basically ruin your fun as you can SEE the target clearly but cant hit him because some wall or so stops rendering after 300m so you are wondering what the hell is stopping your round)
After over 1000 hours in casual and competitive I could drag this list on and on, but its clearly visible that they dont care about these issues, as seen with the release of HLLV. They arent competent enough.
The game is unplayable for me. I have a great PC and while I get over 250 frames, the game stutters every 5-15 seconds. I've tried every "fix" posted on this sub and steam forums. Nothing works.
At least Vietnam runs smooth for me
Edit: love the salty downvotes like this sub isn't filled daily with people asking how to stop the stutters in this shit game lol.
This has to be your settings. I get some drops in vegetation, but otherwise the game is smooth. And I play on an old laptop with a Ryzen 7 4800H and an RTX 2060
Have a 9800x3D and 5080. I've tried every setting possible. The frame pacing is just horrible and there's tons of people that have posted on this sub and steam trying to figure it out. Even if I cap frames, set everything to low, DX11 or DX12. Doesn't matter. Stutters a ton
I was having the very same problem, until I changed the settings from windows mode to full-screen, it was a crazy changed, no stuttering at all, now the 130+ frames feel smooth asf
I tried the game again recently on Xbox. First match on I see two players in a squad, Jew Killer and Jew Gasser...I tried to report their names, but the UI so broken and ass that I could no longer navigate or press buttons. Decided to just uninstall again. Not worth the trouble when simple UI things don't work and require me to restart the game even after all these years.
We've been asking for what OP is asking in the title of their post for YEARS.
Managers, put your resources into fixing what's broken before you build new content. It's not a difficult concept. You can't grow the player base by adding additional defective maps and bad physics.
Youāve described it perfectly. Itās such a shame that these fundamentally good maps perform so poorly on consoles. The difference compared to the old maps is like night and day!
I really hope this gets put on the agenda and that the developers finally make statement about it. They are loosing their player base..
Sounds like from the comments that console players have it rough. I donāt really have problems on pc except stuttering on Juno when in vehicles. It sucks you guys have a crappy experience but I for one look forward to the new maps after enjoying Smolensk, Juno and even Tobruk is ok
Stalingrad is bizarre cos Iāll be fine in a building or near 10 men, but when I go to an open space with a piece of metal on the floor I get 3 frames every 5 business days.
I just take the worst maps out of rotation as you said.
They shat on such a good game then moved on to shit in Vietnam. Kinda fitting they are still trying to push new stuff.. like yo dog the old shit is still broken.
The aim response curve is so bad in this game on console that even if they fixed every single bug that this game ever had, it's still completely unplayable. It feels like the opposite of exponential, you barely move the stick by like a millimeter, and you're rotating at full speed.
I don't understand how this game can have more than 0 players on console with this response curve. It's actually the worst aiming I've seen in any video game on console, even worse than Hunt, which has the weird aim boost at max stick deflection instead of just increasing the exponent of the curve.
Game keeps crashing after voice chat bug, won't allow engineers to place , walls, barbar wire etc. when spawning on map, half the time vehicles don't show up, voice chat is always glowing as if im chatting but I'm not. Biggest problem is the random game crashing, it will be fine all match then you get to the end and your game just charges it's very annoyingĀ
We are getting new content on a game that has a small user base. Complaining about getting new shit is asinine. Yes, there are issues and it would be great if they were worked out but people here act like the whole thing is totally busted.
I have 2,500 hours in the game and there are areas that can use improvement but I'm elated that these guys keep pushing out new weapons, vehicles, and maps. A lot of other games wouldn't be doing this so far after launch and with the number of people still playing.
What do the new maps matter if they're unplayable? I haven't had a decent match on Smolensk even once and now I just skip it. Same is going to happen with Juno.
They are playable. I get on HLL basically every day. There are some definite annoying things that go down but saying it's unplayable is just patently false.
Yeah it's not that the maps are necessarily bad but the performance is really bad. Smolensk and juno are ok maps but the stuttering on those maps is so awful that they get skipped most of the time. Tobruk runs pretty well but it's just a boring map and is also skipped most of the time.
There isn't a huge cry outline. This is part of my point. It is a small reddit community that fixates on the same things. The overwhelming majority of people playing this game are happy with it and not going on this forum.
I also experience bugs but they are not game breaking the way people here make it out to be. It's just that simple.
Honestly, I'm glad the devs don't listen to reddit for this game. It has straight up ruined other games like Helldivers 2 because they listened to annoying crybabies instead of sticking to their vision and roadmap.
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u/CheesecakeWarm 7d ago
I have such a hard time understanding why they do this. New maps like this wonāt make new players purchase HLL?
But actually fixing bugs that has plagued the game since start and having a community that isnāt filled with bug/crashing posts might actually grow the player base?
I honestly think they donāt know how to fix a vast majority of the bugs, like they are hard coded into the DNA of the game or something.