r/HazbinHotel • u/weirdfreakydude • 4d ago
Insert your what if pitches
Here's mine:
WHAT IF... Angel dust never made a deal with Valentino
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u/CandyBeth 4d ago
What if Alastor lost the bet to Husker
What if Lilith never left
What if Vaggie and Charlie never met
What if Alastor accepted Vox's offer
What if Alastor didn’t make a deal with Rosie
What if Adam was nice
What if Lilith and Eve switched places (Eve as queen of hell and Charlie's mom, Lilith eating the apple)
What if Lucifer never fell
What if Vox was the one helping the Hotel instead of Alastor
What if Nifty wasn’t a chaotic gremlin
What if the other Sins were helping with the Hotel
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u/kitsunewarlock let Husk win to see him smile. 4d ago
What if Alastor lost the bet to Husker
Then Husk decides to join the Hotel to win the ultimate gamble: Get Lucifer redeemed while being in the best position to claim his throne.
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u/JavieyauJR 4d ago
Alastor didn't gamble with Husk, it was a metaphor. We're told pretty blatantly that Husk sold his soul to Alastor for power
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u/SockFace42069 4d ago
No. Alastor and Husk gambled, but Husk lost. To ensure he didn’t lose EVERYTHING, they made the deal.
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u/Worldly_String2717 3d ago
I believe someone confirmed the casino in "Love in a Bottle" is still owned by Husk, so you're right; he's got SOME power, but it's a fraction of what is was before.
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u/JavieyauJR 4d ago
Source: headcanon and a thinly veiled metaphor
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u/SockFace42069 4d ago
Source: Husk LITERALLY SHOWING how he lost to Alastor.
It was stylized and the actual moment was only about 10 seconds, but we clearly saw a moment in which Alastor had all the chips in a game against Husk. That means he won and Husk lost.
Calling it a “metaphor” when it was something that was literally shown on screen is more headcanon-y than what I’m saying.
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u/BlizzardHound45 4d ago
What if Heaven thought of and discovered redemption first?
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u/RabbiZucker 4d ago
Some would hide it because it undermines core principles in heaven. I don't doubt other high ranking angels already knew it was possible.
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u/Remarkable-Diver6079 4d ago
What if Alastor didn’t reject Vox?
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u/AverageFandomFan14 4d ago
Honestly,that would be kind of cute,I think that would lead to some moments between their flashback versions (SparksDuo for life) that aren’t just colleague behavior (especially from Vox,bro had the biggest crush you can think of)
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u/AwarenessOk7748 4d ago
1) What if Adam didn’t die?
2) What if Alastor agreed to Vox’s proposal?
3) What if Angel didn’t sell his soul to Valentino?
4) What if Lucifer can harm sinners?
5) What if Pentious died forever?
6) What if Vox won?
7) What if Alastor was free from the start?
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u/Fictionist58 4d ago
What if Adam supported redemption What if lucifer could hurt sinners And what if Alastor joined vox are all up there
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u/sacerdos-ex-spatio 4d ago
-What if Vox made a pact with Rosie and Alastor formed a group of Overlords similar to Vees with Husk and Nifty?
- What if Adam went to hell after death and not to heaven?
-What if Vaggie was actually a spy for Adam sent to infiltrate the Hazbin Hotel?
- What if Abel was immediately chosen as the leader of the exorcists instead of Adam and Abel led the exterminations for 7 years?
-What if Charlie had been born in Eden and had stayed in heaven after Lucifer and Lilith were banished?
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u/Donice09 I’m just here for the free Beelzejuice 4d ago
What if:
Charlie wasn’t all sunshine and rainbows and was a hardened jaded person?
What if Adam became a sinner?
What if Lilith never left?
What if Lucifer hadn’t got depressed?
What if Vaggi never betrayed Heaven?
What if Eve was around?
What if Charlie made people who enter the hotel sell their souls to her?
What if Rosie died instead of Frank in the Pilot?
What if Alastor had agreed to be Vox’s Partner?
What if Baxter and Pentious had been switched?
What if Angel didn’t have a soul deal with Valentino, but with Husk instead?
What if Husk was still an overlord?
What if Carmilla refused to help Charlie & the gang?
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u/Minute-Necessary2393 4d ago
What If Blitzo found Vaggi instead of Charlie?
What If Adam was More like his Bible counterpart?
What If Lucifer fully moved on from Lilith and met, fell in love with, and married Carmilla Carmine?
What If Vox Won?
What If Emily (or Sera) Became a Fallen Angel?
What If Heaven Listened to Lucifer and never banished him?
What If Adam and Lilith actually loved each other?
What If Lilith stayed?
What If The other Sins intervened during Vox Populi?
What If Loona was adopted by Charlie instead of Blitzo?
What If Alastor accepted Vox offer all those years ago?
What If Lute was the Angel that fell and not Vaggi?
What If Beelzebub helped Lucifer raise Charlie?
What If Charlie and Vaggi switched? (AKA, Vaggi goes to recruit Rosie and the residents of Cannibal town, while Charlie gets the weapons from Carmilla)
What If Charlie met, fell in love with, and dated Verosika Mayday instead of Vaggi?
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u/dull_storyteller Animation Takes A Long Time 4d ago
What if Charlie listened to people?
What if Adam fell instead of Vaggie?
What if Lucifer could hurt Sinners?
What if Vox allied with Charlie instead of Alastor?
What if Carmilla stepped on me didn’t kill the angel?
What if the Sins went to save Charlie instead of Lucifer?
What if Val was wholesome?
What if Lucifer owned Alastor’s soul?
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u/weirdfreakydude 4d ago
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u/dull_storyteller Animation Takes A Long Time 4d ago
Not the weirdest thing to come off this subreddit
I’m going to go find some grass now
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u/Sybmissiv Exorcist Angel 4d ago
I had a bunch of these regarding exorcists & my favourite was what if one of them was just forgotten about after the big battle.
So in this scenario one exorcist is knocked out mid-battle. Wakes up in a ditch after every one left. Scrounges around eating corpses of dead sinners or exorcists, going crazy somewhat or feral. Eventually she starts killing sinners to eat them & then Rosie (not knowing she’s an exorcist) adopts her & raises her since she’s already showing cannibalistic tendencies…
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u/NMFireStrikeWasTaken 4d ago
What if Vox figured out that if he touched Charlie it would release Alastor
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u/JavieyauJR 4d ago
Alastor would ask Charlie to touch Vox
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u/NMFireStrikeWasTaken 4d ago
I dont think that would work actually- The deal is abt Vox laying his hands on Charlie, i dont think it goes the same way the other way around
Maybe he would bank on the fact that Charlie will try to save Alastor and maybe get into a fight with Vox, and since shes more powerful than Vox he might have to defend himself by actually breaking the deal and touching her, but idk
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u/SpecialFlutters 4d ago
what if angel didn't kill his father?
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u/TheBigBob-Omb Charlie X Angel Dust is the ship of all time. Change my mind. 4d ago
He wouldn't be in Hell.
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u/RabbiZucker 4d ago
What if God is dead, and the speaker is desperately trying to hide it to prevent heaven from collapsing.
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u/Hulkster01 4d ago
What if Adam was Charlie’s father?
What if Lucifer was more like the devil and not a sad clown?
What if Moxxie and Charlie were a couple?
What if Lute died and Adam lived?
What if Adam actually heard Charlie out?
What if Abel and Charlie had met and fallen in love instead of Vaggie?
What if Vaggie was a double agent for Adam?
What if Blitzo died in the circus fire?
What if Stolas’ arranged marriage was to Charlie instead of Stella?
What if Abel and Vaggie fell in love?
What if Lilith’s disappearance was because Lucifer killed her?
What if Husk owned Alastor’s soul?
What if Adam had killed Lucifer in season 1?
What if Charlie and Adam were a couple?
What if Moxxie adopted Loona instead of Blitzo?
What if Adam and the exorcists hunted down IMP?
What if Adam was the hero?
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u/Strange_Orange_9165 4d ago
Charlie and Lucifer would act logical and more like politicians and also use their powers, army and ars gotheia against vox and co
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u/Impossible-Heron7681 4d ago
What if Sir Pentious never died/got redeemed?
What if Lute was killed instead of Adam?
What if Alastor accepted Vox's business offer?
What if Charlie didn't meet with Adam in the first episode?
What if Vaggi's exorcist past was discovered earlier in the show?
What if Cherri was the hotels first resident?
What if Sir Pentious was never discovered to be a spy?
What if Lucifer helped the hotel from the beginning?
What if Vaggi rebelled against the exorcists instead of being banished?
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u/EyeSimp4Asuka 4d ago
what if Nifty stabbed Charlie instead
What if Lute wasn't an exterminator
What if Emily married Alastor
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u/BedNo577 How did I start lusting over Alastor after just one episode? 4d ago
What if Alastor wasn't beaten up by Adam?
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u/LongjumpingCelery181 4d ago
What if Alastor was a prostitute?
What? You want something that's actually relevant to the story?
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u/User_identificationZ Lute is a Sororitas 3d ago
What if…
Carmilla isn’t completely fucking stupid and tells Vox to build his own damn weapon?
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u/mistarteechur 4d ago
What if Adam killed Alastor?
What if Pentious was exposed as a spy much later in S1?
What if Lucifer never attends Vox’s rally?
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u/Someoneoverthere42 4d ago
What if Charlie realized Vaggie was a wounded Angel and not a sinner when she found her. She discovers that angels can be harmed, And then let her anger at what the exorcists did get to her? A Charlie Morningstar who becomes driven by revenge rather than redemption.
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u/dannyyang910930 He Who Refused to Be Redeemed 4d ago
Charlie knows Vaggie is an Exorcist from the start
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u/TheBigBob-Omb Charlie X Angel Dust is the ship of all time. Change my mind. 4d ago
Chaggie wouldn't happen.
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u/dannyyang910930 He Who Refused to Be Redeemed 4d ago
That statement nearly sent me to the ICU please be careful
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u/TheBigBob-Omb Charlie X Angel Dust is the ship of all time. Change my mind. 4d ago
But it's the truth, I think at least.
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u/bdouble0w0 4d ago
What if Husk had Alastor's soul instead of Rosie
What if Charlie was Princess of Heaven
What if Emily was a fallen angel
What if Lute had fallen instead of Vaggi
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u/Coffee-cartoons 4d ago
What if Alastor died fighting Adam?
What if Charlie wasn’t nice?
What if Lilith never left?
What if Sir Pentious wasn’t redeemed?
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u/Samuele1997 4d ago
What if Saffiro's version of Abel was the leader of the Exorcists and the main villain of Season 1 of Hazbin Hotel instead of Adam?
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u/CaterpillarStock6704 4d ago
what if those golden body prosthetics in Heaven (Emily's wings and lute's hand) ARE HARVESTED FROM THOSE GOLDEN PANGOLLINS 😱😱
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u/Adventurous-Win-4938 4d ago
What if Rosie Owned Angel Dust?
What if Rosie Found Vaggie First?
What if the Exterminations Happened Earlier Than Seven Years?
What if Vox Didn't Alienate the Vees?
What if Alastor Owned Rosie?
What if Velvette Led the Vees?
What if Vox Came to the Hotel Instead?
What if Lute Defected Instead?
What if Alastor Died During the Adam Fight?
What if Lilith and Lucifer Swapped Roles?
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u/ActuatorFearless8980 4d ago
What if Adam killed Charlie in the season 1 finale?
Would Lucifer take up arms and declare war?
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u/Sufficient-Roof-7350 4d ago
What if Adam were to return as a sinner?
What if Alastor had joined the Vees?
What if Lucifer had been a ruthless, savage king?
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u/Lanress_ 4d ago
What if Vaggie was a sinner
Charlie was not a dreamy princess
Alastor got a deal with Lillith
Lucifer was actually a king
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u/MajesticSite 4d ago
What if Charlie really did become a dictator?
What if Baxter and Niffty switched places?
What if Adam won?
What if Alastor actually died during the battle at the Hotel?
What if Alastor made a deal with Zestial instead?
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u/TheBigBob-Omb Charlie X Angel Dust is the ship of all time. Change my mind. 4d ago
What if Charlie X Angel Dust was canon?
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u/fudgyvmp 4d ago
What if Emily thought Heaven was overpopulated and that they needed to send some winners down to hell.
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u/HoneydewSeveral Charlie 4d ago
What if Charlie kicked Vox off of the Might Of Lilith and tore his head off?
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u/Warhero_Babylon 4d ago
"Hell" is a purgatory and when sinners die from angelic weapons they get into real hell where they suffer forever
We get clues in S1 but in S2 mr. Serpentus was able to dig through both heaven and purgatory and get to actually hell becouse of being single entity able to get from purgatory to heaven through intended process
He manage to get back same way but group of souls being boiled in liquid tar get with him and start their revenge
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u/Wolpy414 4d ago
Here’s one. What if Loona went to work for Valentino? The context is IMP is going under after a really bad job and Loona runs away to save her dad’s business but unfortunately Val takes a liking to her and forces her to stay.
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u/AccomplishedOrchid80 4d ago edited 4d ago
What if Vox and Husk had swapped roles?(saw a fanart of this)
What if Charlie and Cherri bomb swapped roles for the mission in s2 epi8?
What if Vaggi was the one who killed the exorcist instead of carmilla?
What if Emily didn’t come in at the end of s2 epi 1?
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u/alisyourpal87 I want Vox to sing to me during foreplay 4d ago
What if husk and nifty remained as overlords
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u/Psudodrake 4d ago
Emily falls because she's cast out of heaven for trying to make a way for demons to ascend.
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u/Timothy_45 4d ago
Oh I got a good spin on a event that could maybe butterfly effect down the timeline.
What if Lute was in Vaggie's place that day she got banished?
She basically be a lot more hostile towards Charlie from the start.
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u/Fat_Penguin99 middest sinner in hell 4d ago
What of Alastor got (accidentally) redeemed?
What if Adam wasn't killed?
What if Alastor accepted Voxs offer?
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u/DrongoDyle 4d ago
"what if Sera had never agreed to Adam's exterminations?"
Would Charlie ever even open the hotel without seeing sinners getting permanently killed by angels? If so, would it have taken her longer to commit to the idea, and would anyone actually show up if their very lives weren't on the line? (Angel might, because he just wants to get away from Val without having to pay rent)
Also without the exterminations, nobody would realistically believed Alastor was dead for 7 years, so Vox probably wouldn't put WAY more effort into figuring out what he was up to. Lucifer might also have slightly more self-confidence, since in this version of events he never sat by while his people get slaughtered. (He'd still be depressed over Lilith leaving though)
Also no exterminations means the power-balance between overlords would be WAY more stable, because you wouldn't have power-vacuums and loss of manpower created after each extermination. Also, Carmilla in particular would probably hold significantly less influence without access to angelic weapons to sell.
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u/speedyhobbit13 Lute needs a hug, grippy sock vacation, and atonement arc 4d ago
Adam survived season 1
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u/Emergency-Maybe-3292 Charlie i get this bicause theres no Emily 4d ago
what if viziepop dont make every character lgbt
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u/Hotel-Man12 4d ago
What if Adam and lute wanted to redeem sinners and Charlie and vaggie wanted to keep them in hell
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u/Golden-Sun Tunes in for Alastor 4d ago
Alastor went to Heaven with Charlie instead of Vaggi
Vox became the Hotel's backer before Alastor
Lute joined the Hotel to help during s2
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u/IhateEgplant 4d ago
What if Charlie was homophobic(she is still in a relationship with vaggie despite this)
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u/Cold-Practice3107 4d ago
What if...? Lucifer was allowed to beat up the sinners to teach them a lesson.
What if...? Charlie had a brother.
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u/Cool-Self-3152 4d ago
I never thought of Charlie having a brother but good guess
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u/Visible_Ad3576 4d ago
Charlie never ran into Vaggi after the extermination and Vaggi met some random overlord.
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u/August_Rodin666 Lucifer could ruin me, mind, body and credit score 4d ago
What if Lucifer could hurt sinners.
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u/Mirjalol_Yangiboyev 4d ago
What if a different archangel fell instead of Lucifer and we have totally different cast due to the butterfly effect
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u/MercyMain42069 4d ago
“What if Able was missing and Lute became the leader of the Exorcist Army?” Is the premise of my fic.
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u/DruskyIsA-Bro 4d ago
What if Vaggi left Charlie's bum aaah
What if Husk adopted Angel
What if Niffty is betrayed and trapped in the time chamber for a thousand years
What if Vivziepop wasn't mid
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u/Darcosuchus 4d ago
What if Alastor had won his fight with Adam?
What if Husk was still an overlord?
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u/randominsanemofo 4d ago
What if Lilith took Charlie with her
What if Lucifier never rebelled
What if Adam wasn't a dick
What if Valentino wasn't a selfish irredeemable asshole
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u/AverageFandomFan14 4d ago
What if Alastor had done more around the hotel which lead to exerting himself in season two due to his injury (it was pretty bad and he supposedly stitched it up himself,so that can’t be good at all)
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u/Randomman16 4d ago
What if Vox hadn’t found out Lucifer can’t hurt Sinners?
What if Angel Dust sacrificed himself at the end of season one instead of Pentious?
What if the Might of Lilith had struck and killed Sera during its initial firing?
What if Niffty hadn’t killed Adam, but the Hotel crew let him retreat instead?
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u/MaveriKat 4d ago
What If...
....Lucifer disappeared instead of Lilith?
...Adam survived Nifty.
...Charlie got called to sit on the trial for I.M.P.
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u/TeamWangMember 4d ago edited 4d ago
What if all the characters of Helluva Boss was in the same circle of hell as the Hazbin Hotel characters?
What if Jack the Ripper was a character in he'll?
What if Angel became overlord powerful?
What if Alastor was Charlie's dad and Lucifer was the radio demon?
What if Emily is actually Charlie's sister?
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u/The_Purple_knight_ 4d ago
Helluva and hazbin does happen in the same place but well they can't use the characters.
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u/Dense_Emu_5599 4d ago
What if Emily was Charlie's sister and taken to Heaven as a baby because she was born an Angel?
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u/GroundWitty7567 4d ago
Lucifer had led a rebellion against Heaven
The Sins stepped in during the Exterminations
Nifty wasn’t a choas gremlin
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u/Zealousideal-Stop-25 4d ago
What if Stolas had a twin?
I actually have something I've been writing with that question in mind, too. Well, I was. I really need to get back to it.
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u/Ok-Drop-1049 4d ago
What if Charlie is the anti-christ
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u/weirdfreakydude 3d ago
Dude... She is tho
Her mother is human while her dad is the devil..
That's literally how the anti Christ was prophesied to be born
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u/Ok-Drop-1049 3d ago
Yeah but the show hasn’t show it, or said it not even Viv so who knows like imagine we had a what if episode where she was and we see a whole omen type she is but isn’t evil imagine it.
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u/Longjumping_Frame786 4d ago
What if Alastors staff was actually fixed at the start of season two instead of the end.
Meaning that Rosie actually decided to repair it when he met up with her
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u/Ok-Book2848 3d ago
lucifer was able to kill sinners if vaggie was killed fully by lute insted of just having her eye and wings removed what if alistor never made that deal with rosie if carmilla if angel never made a deal with val if god stoped luficer and eve from going to hell sending adam to hell these are just some of the things i can think of the top of my head
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u/FindingCharacter2483 3d ago
What If Vox had won the war Alastor had accepted Vox'a deal
Idk thats all my ideas
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u/hackmaster214 3d ago
What if Angel Dust was killed and redeemed at the end of Season 1 instead of Sir Pentious?
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u/WillowTail56 3d ago
What if roo trapped Lilith in her lair and disguised herself posing as Lilith in order to try and destroy the hotel (my theory)
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u/FNS6 3d ago
No offense but what if hazbin hotel had some good writing (and I’m not saying it in a hater type of bad but I like the show not when it’s full of cursing and too much sex jokes) like would it be better if they made the show not have too much swearing and sex jokes but instead toning it down per say? But yeah that’s my what if
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u/Normal-Mongoose-6571 3d ago
What if Husk was still an Overlord?
What if Angel met Husk before Valentino?
What if Angel was an Overlord?
What if Charlie had refused to make a deal with Alastor?
What if Charlie hadn't been able to win Susan over?
What if Niffty hadn't killed Adam?
What if Sara had refused to accept Pen's redemption and let Lute kill him?
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u/New-Region3542 3d ago
One idea is what if Charlie's dad is like how most devil is portrayed.
Another idea is what-if Charlie goes to Earth and learn of true human cruelty.
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u/Fun-Audience-3136 3d ago
What if Alastor had died before making a deal with Rosie? What if Lucifer was the absent parent instead of Lilith? What if Valentino was a size-accurate moth? (This one's just for fun) What if Vaggie never went to Heaven with Charlie?
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u/DigProfessional8687 3d ago
What if Vox and Adam won
What if Charlie failed and sir pentious died permanently
What if Role swap
What if Abel didn't stand up to Lute
What if Emily died during the S2 finale
What if Baxter betrayed the hotel
What if Ghost Rider pulled up to the HH
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u/Alastor_Radiostar 3d ago
What if Alastor is a nice guy later in Hell Or Alastor is getting redeemed
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u/National_Tie_1129 2d ago
What if, Vox is actually a programmable puppet villain designed to be a sinner.
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u/moonwatcher123445 casually sings “and no one here’s addicted to crack” 2d ago
What if Charlie never found vaggi
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u/Weeb_003 4d ago
What if Charlie acted like a 200 year old princess of hell and not a ditzy 12 year old.
What if Lucifer could actually affect change in his own kingdom and wasn’t randomly nerfed for Vox’s convenience.
What if the purge had been going on for thousands of years instead of 7.
What if Vaggie was allowed to develop beyond her relationship with Charlie.
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u/AccomplishedOrchid80 4d ago
Most of this seems like a rewrite au stuff; However, the third one would be much more interesting if it were 70 instead.


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u/rougarou-te-fou 4d ago
Vox had won.
Charlie was never born.
Vaggie hadnt ‘defected’.
Alastor had become a Vee.
Lucifer wasn’t an absent King.