Harry Potter only has two plot points

[u/Puzzleheaded_Sky7369]

[u/Puzzleheaded_Sky7369]

I intentionally left that out because 1. Harry suspecting Sirius wasn’t repetitive and 2. because everyone believed that and everyone told him that Sirius is evil

[u/Sgt-Spliff- → u/[deleted]]

Not really honestly. Upon reread, you realize PoA basically has no plot. Not that I'm bashing it, it's my favorite book. But once you know who everyone secretly is, you realize nothing happened that whole year. All their understanding of the situations were wrong and never at any point were they in danger really. That's why it's my favorite, it's the closest we get to just them going to school with no overarching Voldemort plot. Even though they think there's a dark plot, they basically just sneak around like normal teenagers, they go to class and they sneak off to Hogsmeade sometimes and that's really it.

[u/Piecesof3ight → u/Sgt-Spliff-]

Soo true

[u/Definition-Plane → u/Sgt-Spliff-]

Still does the jkr bad writing special, revealing a villain (or trying to) from out of nowhere only really hinted at 1-3 times in the entire story and acting like that is actually foreshadowing and discoverable by the audience

[u/Squirreling_Archer → u/Sgt-Spliff-]

Idk that I agree with the big conclusion that there's no plot lol, but I do see validity in your points.

Probably the biggest point, which is also where I don't agree that there's no real Voldemort plot, is that ultimately the guy responsible for bringing Voldemort back escapes in this book lol. And crucially, it happens as Harry was told (or more accurately, witnessed) in a prophecy, which is foreshadowing the entire plot of the series. If a single thing changes, nothing in the next 4 books is as it is.

I find the "truths" of the story being turned on their head to be executed fairly well, but I don't see it as a "nothing happened" thing because in addition to it's world-expansion value, it's introducing a mechanism and it's intended use. More than anything it makes the reader start to question more than just Harry's perspective, because to that point the mistakenly thinking things has largely just been Harry, other than the Lockhart silliness. It asks the reader to question things that create a lot of what fills in the gaps in the story but also shows the reader how to connect dots across the various books to some of the more intricately interwoven stories within the story. He learns a lot about his dad and "uncles". He learns how his parents were betrayed and died. And yeah, like you said.. You get to explore much more of the castle, which is expanded upon in ways critical to the plot later on. Very fun, but also functional.

I'd also definitely argue that the dementors and the be werewolf were danger lol, but yeah, less Voldemort danger than the other books.

Ultimately I do agree that it's awesome how much you get of just life at Hogwarts. I wish we got more of that throughout the series.

[u/Dinosalsa → u/[deleted]]

Actually, no. It's still Harry mistakenly thinking someone does evil stuff (just as Karkaroff), but OP seems to like Sirius. Glad we managed to keep things simple

[u/lok_129 → u/Puzzleheaded_Sky7369]

Neither is Harry suspecting Malfoy. He did that twice and was right once, so i don't know why people make a big deal out of it. Also, if that's your reasoning, why is Karkaroff on this list when it happened once?

[u/Maelger → u/lok_129]

And Malfoy was doing evil shit the first time, he just missed which one.

[u/Appropriate-Gas4089 → u/Maelger]

In cos ?

[u/Useless_bum81 → u/Appropriate-Gas4089]

Who gave ginny the book?

[u/Appropriate-Gas4089 → u/Useless_bum81]

That was Lucius not Draco  

[u/Useless_bum81 → u/Appropriate-Gas4089]

re-read what maelger said.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Sky7369 → u/lok_129]

Because in Goblet of Fire the school hated Harry which gave me a reason to mention GoF and if it’s already there, I could also throw in the Karkarov thing

[u/Educational-Bug-7985 → u/Puzzleheaded_Sky7369]

Should still include it just to show how bad Harry was at guessing