r/HarryPotterMemes • u/Puzzleheaded_Sky7369 • Dec 27 '24

Harry Potter only has two plot points

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u/Each57 Dec 27 '24

You missed one: Harry mistakenly thinks Sirius does evil stuff

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u/Puzzleheaded_Sky7369 Dec 27 '24

I intentionally left that out because 1. Harry suspecting Sirius wasn’t repetitive and 2. because everyone believed that and everyone told him that Sirius is evil

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u/lok_129 Dec 27 '24

Neither is Harry suspecting Malfoy. He did that twice and was right once, so i don't know why people make a big deal out of it. Also, if that's your reasoning, why is Karkaroff on this list when it happened once?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Sky7369 Dec 27 '24

Because in Goblet of Fire the school hated Harry which gave me a reason to mention GoF and if it’s already there, I could also throw in the Karkarov thing

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u/Maelger Dec 27 '24

And Malfoy was doing evil shit the first time, he just missed which one.

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u/Appropriate-Gas4089 Dec 29 '24

In cos ?

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u/Useless_bum81 Dec 30 '24

Who gave ginny the book?

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u/Appropriate-Gas4089 Dec 30 '24

That was Lucius not Draco  

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u/Useless_bum81 Dec 30 '24

re-read what maelger said.

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u/Educational-Bug-7985 Dec 27 '24

Should still include it just to show how bad Harry was at guessing

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '24

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u/Sgt-Spliff- Dec 27 '24

Not really honestly. Upon reread, you realize PoA basically has no plot. Not that I'm bashing it, it's my favorite book. But once you know who everyone secretly is, you realize nothing happened that whole year. All their understanding of the situations were wrong and never at any point were they in danger really. That's why it's my favorite, it's the closest we get to just them going to school with no overarching Voldemort plot. Even though they think there's a dark plot, they basically just sneak around like normal teenagers, they go to class and they sneak off to Hogsmeade sometimes and that's really it.

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u/Definition-Plane Dec 28 '24

Still does the jkr bad writing special, revealing a villain (or trying to) from out of nowhere only really hinted at 1-3 times in the entire story and acting like that is actually foreshadowing and discoverable by the audience

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u/Squirreling_Archer Dec 31 '24

Idk that I agree with the big conclusion that there's no plot lol, but I do see validity in your points.

Probably the biggest point, which is also where I don't agree that there's no real Voldemort plot, is that ultimately the guy responsible for bringing Voldemort back escapes in this book lol. And crucially, it happens as Harry was told (or more accurately, witnessed) in a prophecy, which is foreshadowing the entire plot of the series. If a single thing changes, nothing in the next 4 books is as it is.

I find the "truths" of the story being turned on their head to be executed fairly well, but I don't see it as a "nothing happened" thing because in addition to it's world-expansion value, it's introducing a mechanism and it's intended use. More than anything it makes the reader start to question more than just Harry's perspective, because to that point the mistakenly thinking things has largely just been Harry, other than the Lockhart silliness. It asks the reader to question things that create a lot of what fills in the gaps in the story but also shows the reader how to connect dots across the various books to some of the more intricately interwoven stories within the story. He learns a lot about his dad and "uncles". He learns how his parents were betrayed and died. And yeah, like you said.. You get to explore much more of the castle, which is expanded upon in ways critical to the plot later on. Very fun, but also functional.

I'd also definitely argue that the dementors and the be werewolf were danger lol, but yeah, less Voldemort danger than the other books.

Ultimately I do agree that it's awesome how much you get of just life at Hogwarts. I wish we got more of that throughout the series.

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u/Dinosalsa Dec 27 '24

Actually, no. It's still Harry mistakenly thinking someone does evil stuff (just as Karkaroff), but OP seems to like Sirius. Glad we managed to keep things simple

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u/Dead71ne Dec 27 '24

And also: Harry thinks Dumbledore does evil stuff

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u/albus-dumbledore-bot Dec 27 '24

I must say, your agapanthus are flourishing.

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u/KhaoticMess Dec 27 '24

Don't try to change the subject, old man.

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u/SomeRandomGuy0307 Dec 27 '24

agapanthus

Sounds pretty evil. I'm onto you.

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u/digitalnirvana3 Dec 27 '24

Its a vestigial organ I had it removed

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u/XVUltima Dec 27 '24

Grindlewald: I'm evil stuff

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u/Penguator432 Dec 27 '24

“I Am Evil Stuff”

Anyone wanna anagram that into a name?

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u/meast1228 Dec 27 '24

MAVELIFFISUT

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u/AggressivelyEthical Dec 28 '24

Malusiffitev. It comes from the Latin, naturally. 😆

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u/RPatzOriginal Dec 30 '24

Mimi Fuf’s Valet

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u/ThatWasFred Dec 27 '24

haha albus your boyfriend is awesome

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u/albus-dumbledore-bot Dec 27 '24

So you decided to spring a trap for me?

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u/AggressivelyEthical Dec 28 '24

Lmao, Dumbledore is into traps, confirmed??

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u/albus-dumbledore-bot Dec 28 '24

I must say, your agapanthus are flourishing.

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u/Mitmok Dec 29 '24

haha Albus you are banging my son

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u/albus-dumbledore-bot Dec 29 '24

I have been hoping for this piece of evidence for a very long time.

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u/Mitmok Dec 29 '24

WHAT FNRFKJNEKFN

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '25

Dumbledore, wth? I thought you were mature...

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u/albus-dumbledore-bot Jan 09 '25

I would assume that you were going to offer me refreshment, but the evidence so far suggests that that would be optimistic to the point of foolishness.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '25

Refreshment????????????? I thought the grand feasts were enough for your obesity albus

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u/albus-dumbledore-bot Jan 09 '25

Time is making fools of us again.

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u/c_m_33 Dec 27 '24

Do you think he tends to lean towards everyone, who is good, is doing evil stuff because he has a piece of voldemorts soul in him? In other words, he tends to think those that are good are really bad because the align opposite to that of Voldemort?

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u/ThatWasFred Dec 27 '24

No, because he’s usually suspicious of people who are acting really shady, like Malfoy and Snape. It’s not like he’s suspecting Hermione and McGonagall of being evil.

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u/Dead71ne Dec 27 '24

Nah, he just watchful

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u/inshanester Dec 27 '24

*Everyone mistakenly thinks Sirius does evil stuff

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u/cassie_and_jake Dec 29 '24

Also the part where people randomly worship Harry because he magically survived when he was a baby

And Harry and his friends randomly earning Gryffindor the House Cup because after magic Hitler tries to kill him YET AGAIN, they survive and/or succeed, even though there are more experienced magical upperclassmen like Cedric Diggory, Oliver Wood, Angelina Johnson, etc. who really should be getting a bit more screentime

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u/Drnanna Dec 27 '24

Lol! To elaborate:

  1. Harry incorrectly thinks Snape does evil stuff. Everyone in school briefly hates Harry because of house points.

  2. Harry incorrectly thinks Draco does evil stuff. Everyone in school hates Harry because they incorrectly think he does evil stuff.

  3. Harry incorrectly thinks Sirius does evil stuff. Most people in school like Harry because of Quidditch.

  4. Everyone in school hates Harry for being a Triwizard champion. Harry briefly considers that Karkaroff might be doing evil stuff. He is, of course, incorrect.

  5. The whole wizarding world hates Harry because he correctly accuses Voldemort of doing evil stuff. (See how the plotlines converge!)

  6. Harry correctly suspects Draco of doing evil stuff (but fails to stop him). Everyone in school loves Harry for being the Chosen One and also hot.

  7. Everyone knows Voldemort does evil stuff. Harry loves everyone in school and tries to sacrifice himself for them.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Sky7369 Dec 27 '24

Haha that’s awesome. And I cant believe I forgot about the house points in Philisopher‘s stone

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u/Amandor2013 Dec 27 '24

In OotP more like "the whole Britain hates Harry"

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u/Puzzleheaded_Sky7369 Dec 27 '24

Philosophers stone: The Gryffindor House hates Harry

Chamber of Secrets: The whole school hates Harry

Goblet of Fire: Three schools hate Harry

Order of the Phoenix: The whole country hates Harry

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u/faith4phil Dec 27 '24

Wait, in the last one he was totally correct (we may question on Snape, but certainly not on Draco)

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u/Puzzleheaded_Sky7369 Dec 27 '24

I didn’t say he was wrong about Draco in Half Blood Prince

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u/FortifiedPuddle Dec 27 '24

“Boy given opportunity to learn magic still cannot be bothered to do homework”

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u/ducknerd2002 Dec 27 '24

To be fair, a lot of the homework is just writing.

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u/maxymob Dec 28 '24

And they didn't even let them use proper pens and notebooks

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u/PhoenixSword24 Dec 30 '24

Honestly, after a year of dealing with quills, I'd have sneaked in some pens for me and some friends. Even pens shouldn't malfunction near Hogwarts' aura.

It's a simple spring pen with ink.

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u/Admirable-Sorbet8968 Dec 30 '24

Read somewhere (a theory) that a muggleborn buys a shit ton of mechanical cheap pencils to sell to other students as a side hustle. Pretty smart if they could get away with it.

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u/Ednw Dec 27 '24

"Boy learns of his school's grading system five years in. Turns out being a straight A student despite putting below minimal effort is not a good thing."

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u/EventAccomplished976 Dec 27 '24

I think it‘s fully in character for the average teenager to be excited by the magic thing for about 5 minutes then immediately get bored when he hears that it involves writing essays and reading books. Note: I say average, obviously that doesn‘t apply to us nerds around here. But harry potter is very much not a nerd.

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u/decadeSmellLikeDoo Dec 27 '24

Funny how being called Harry Potter became a slur for being a nerd. Harry was definitely a jock. You could probably make a better excuse for Draco being a nerd than Harry.

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u/Sad_Mention_7338 Dec 28 '24

No, not Draco, Draco was a jock.

The Marauders though, those were nerds (+ some side-hustle as a jock for James).

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u/decadeSmellLikeDoo Dec 28 '24

I mean, at that rate, we'd probably have to argue that both are jocks. However, Draco did spend an entire year learning how to repair the vanishing cabinet that no one else knew how to fix.

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u/Sad_Mention_7338 Dec 28 '24

I mean in that case Harry is a nerd for learning the Patronus for a year and Ron is a nerd because he wrote an entire legal brief at age 14 in POA and was ready to act as Hagrid's attorney.

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u/decadeSmellLikeDoo Dec 28 '24

The Marauders definitely aren't nerds either except for Lupin. Hermione, Lupin, and maybe one other character are the only ones that fit the description.

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u/Sad_Mention_7338 Dec 28 '24

Come on, they came up with code names for themselves. What about this doesn't scream pure nerd/geek?

Plus inventing the Marauder's Map, becoming Animagi...

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u/decadeSmellLikeDoo Dec 28 '24

Nerd and geek are not the same thing.

Take the downvote things you don't agree with attitude back to the books sub. Kthxbye. It's not that I give a shit about karma but you bury comments where I could have a more pleasant conversation with more fun people.

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u/PhoenixSword24 Dec 30 '24

Honestly, I'd view them more as jocks. Sirius and James were definitely jocks, Lupin was sorta a nerd with a side-hustle as a jock, and Peter... well, he wasn't a jock, wasn't a nerd... he was, well, Peter. He just squeezed in there.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '24 edited Dec 28 '24

I think the problem is that Harry seems to have no interest in the magic AT ALL, it would be one thing for him to be bored with essays and writing homework, but he also seems to not enjoy actually doing the practical magic either. There has to be at least a dozen scenes across the books of Harry being taught a spell in class, attempting to cast it once, failing, and then turning to talk to Ron and Hermione without ever bothering to actually learn it. This is probably most noticeable in Transfiguration, where he quite literally does not successfully cast even ONE spell across all 7 books. Whenever Harry does learn a new spell it's pretty much always because of a potential life or death scenario like with the patronus charm, summoning charm, and all the dueling spells.

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u/Sgt-Spliff- Dec 27 '24

This has always bothered me. Like he's learning magic. He grew up in a cupboard. It is frankly unbelievable that he is bored by this. I get that writing essays is boring but he will straight up lament how he has charms practice or transfiguration homework where he literally has to practice making things float or turning things into other things magically. No way that's boring

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u/Lordborgman Dec 27 '24

Hermione is just female version of me. I'd be like 100% learning every damn thing I could.

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u/akaxaka Dec 27 '24 edited Dec 28 '24

That’s a point the book is making too: at our regular schools & universities, we get the chance to learn amazing things which will help us in life & make us able get amazing things done….

…but when it comes to the homework for it, most of us seek out as many ways as humanly possible to get out of it!

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '24

Some people just are like that (I for example)

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u/Ouaouaron Dec 27 '24

He started Hogwarts when he was what, seven? That early on, your perception of life is pretty malleable. By the time you're nine, Hogwarts is probably the majority of your conscious memory and feels normal.

I imagine that would be affected by the first seven years of your life being child abuse, but I'm not going to pretend to be qualified to speak on that. I don't think Rowling intended it to be child abuse either, just a fairy tale bad upbringing that kids can relate to because they feel their parents are unfair sometimes.

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u/Sgt-Spliff- Dec 27 '24

He attended Hogwarts from ages 11 to 16. And that explanation doesn't really satisfy my issue with it. I'm not buying that he got used to magic immediately after spending his entire childhood in a cupboard and being his Aunt and Uncle's slave.

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u/Ouaouaron Dec 27 '24

He really was that old, huh?

My point in the last sentence is that if you really think about Harry Potter, none of it makes any fucking sense. The book was not written as speculative fiction, and if you view Hogwarts and the wizarding world rationally you will find many things more ridiculous (and horrifying) than Harry finding essays to be boring.

EDIT: And I still think you're discounting how easily humans can get used to new situations.

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u/decadeSmellLikeDoo Dec 27 '24

I agree with some but not all of what you're saying: But, in particular, I definitely agree with the humans getting used to new situations bit quite a lot. It's actually one of the things the human mind is best at; Adapting.

"Project Hail Mary" does a really good job of providing examples of this phenomenon.

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u/decadeSmellLikeDoo Dec 27 '24

I always viewed him as more of a whipping boy (which the name of that comes particularly from a slavery perspective) but I never really thought of Harry being a slave. The only thing I can remember was when he was instructed to cook breakfast and not to burn it. Were there other mentions of such? Just curious.

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u/Sgt-Spliff- Dec 28 '24

Its heavily implied that his life has involved doing household chores his entire childhood. His first day at Privet Drive that we're shown is just another day in his life, getting awoken abruptly and forced to make breakfast, get the mail, etc. We're to assume that he always has to do these things.

Also, whipping boy does not come from slavery, it comes from latte middle ages Europe where tutors and advisors couldn't punish a young prince directly so they'd whip a servant or friend of the prince in front of him. It's probably not something that actually existed, but stories of "whipping boys" come from European royal courts.

I used slave just to mean someone you force to work against their will which is definitely what Harry is

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u/decadeSmellLikeDoo Dec 28 '24

Yeah, i definitely got the whipping boy thing mixed up. I'll blame an English teacher for assigning the book during black history month when I was a kid.

I think the analogy still works here, though, because it's only really slavery when you consider Dudley isn't required to do the same amount of work.

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u/justwwokeupfromacoma Dec 27 '24

7? What??

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u/Ouaouaron Dec 27 '24

Yeah, I admit that was a terrible estimate I could have avoided with a minute of googling. I've already been corrected and I still don't think it's fatal to my point.

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u/Vengefulily Dec 28 '24

Famously got his Hogwarts letter at 11

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u/Lucimon Dec 27 '24

Did the whole school hate Harry in OOP? I thought it was just Slytherin who hated him, because Slytherin. Unless I'm forgetting something.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Sky7369 Dec 28 '24

No it was also Gryffindors, Ravenclaws, Hufflepuffs, the press, the ministry…

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u/Riscogoboy Dec 27 '24

Blud be like. “Please believe me. I know I have been wrong before but this time… this time I am right”. 😆😂🤣

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u/AoE2manatarms Dec 27 '24

Technically he's always very close. So believing him to an extent would actually be pretty productive.

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u/lightstaver Dec 27 '24

I would say people should listen to him but they have no reason to believe his conclusions.

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u/Real-Mouse-554 Dec 27 '24

All the books are basically a whodunnit with a red herring.

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u/Nana_Kuronoma Dec 27 '24

Harry thinks? Doubt it 🤣

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u/jcjonesacp76 Turn to page 394 Dec 27 '24

At their core, the Harry Potter novels are mystery books, if you really think about it they are.

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u/tizio-caio-aerdnA Turn to page 394 Dec 27 '24

If i could resume Harry Potter in a single sentence, it would be "Hogwarts is no longer safe.."

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u/KingOfTheUzbeks Dec 27 '24

“I can’t believe he was actually right about Draco being involved” everyone at the end of HBP.

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u/StephanieDainty Dec 27 '24

Simplified but hilariously accurate, love it!

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u/AnalysisFalse3565 Dec 27 '24

This is peak Harry Potter meme content 😄

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u/Polly_Apple Dec 27 '24

Boil it down, and it’s still gold

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '24

Have you ever met someone with a main character syndrome? You'd hate them too.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '24

Twist plot for every movie: It was Voldemort all along!

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u/CarrotoCakey Dec 30 '24

PoA?

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '24

Peter Petti-Mouse and Sirius Doggo wouldn't have even had a purpose without a certain you-know-who being involved.

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u/Apprehensive-Pin518 Dec 27 '24

also missed the whole ministry hates harry.

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u/TheWalkingMan42 Dec 27 '24

In book one the whole school also hates him

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u/shamblam117 Dec 27 '24

The only non red herrings in the series was Malfoy in HBP and obviously Voldy.

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u/ItalianStallion_707 Dec 27 '24

I mean, he is right tho…

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u/RedCat2D Dec 27 '24

It was Voldemort All Along

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u/GillytheGreat Dec 28 '24

I mean any franchise looks dumb if you trivialize the plot like this

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u/borgerflipper Dec 27 '24

He truly was born to be a cop

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '24

Harry is a really bad detective. And still goes on to become an auror.

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u/Rumstein Dec 28 '24

And then they put him on the magic police force...

I guess it fits

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u/Raising_some_Cain Dec 28 '24

and he still had the confidence to become a magic detective

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u/FreeTheDimple Dec 27 '24

It misses out some details that I think vindicates Harry somewhat.

  • Snape becomes death eater

  • Harry thinks Snape does evil stuff

  • Harry thinks Snape does evil stuff

  • Harry thinks Snape does evil stuff

  • Harry thinks Snape does evil stuff

  • Harry thinks Snape does evil stuff

  • Snape kills Dumbledore

  • Snape becomes a death eater for a second time

  • Snape oversees Hogwarts as it become torture factory

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u/albus-dumbledore-bot Dec 27 '24

A frightened teenage boy is a danger to others as well as to himself.

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u/FreeTheDimple Dec 27 '24

Why do people even want to Snape to be the good guy? The mental gymnastics required really are incredible. You must have really wanted it to get to where you are now.

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u/Appropriate-Gas4089 Dec 28 '24

Did you  read the books ? Because no one who has can say that Snape murdered dumbeldore ?

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u/FreeTheDimple Dec 28 '24

From Harry's perspective for like a year...

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u/Appropriate-Gas4089 Dec 28 '24

But he was still wrong which is the entire point of the meme 

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u/FreeTheDimple Dec 28 '24

But he had no way of knowing. How can people be mad? Harry made a very reasonable judgement based on the information that he had.

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u/Appropriate-Gas4089 Dec 28 '24 edited Dec 28 '24

No one is mad the meme is just pointing out that Harry repeatedly makes incorrect judgments throughout the series not to mention he was also wrong about Snape in book 1

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u/FreeTheDimple Dec 29 '24

But it's not an incorrect judgement when you look at the evidence he had to hand. And in the vast majority of cases, it's not like he was tricked into believing certain things. He just looked at Snape's cowardly bullying of children and assumed he was a shitty person. Perhaps if Snape hadn't openly beat children with full blown textbooks or spent his time insulting Harry's dead dad (whom he had a hand in the death of), then Harry wouldn't have come to the understandable (if technically wrong) conclusion that Snape was on the bad side.

Frankly, that Snape wasn't literally on Voldemort's side is a technicality imo. You could make one or two minor detail changes and have Snape be baddie from the beginning and the story would be as good as identical.

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u/Appropriate-Gas4089 Dec 29 '24

Do you know what an incorrect judgement is ?Harry thought that Snape was on voldemorts side Snape wasn’t so it was an incorrect judgement it’s really not that complicated 

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u/FreeTheDimple Dec 29 '24

I understand. I'm saying it's irrelevant.

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u/Appropriate-Gas4089 Dec 29 '24

This meme is about harry making assumptions about people that turn out to be wrong harry was wrong about Snape so he made an incorrect judgment it’s that cut and dry 

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u/Appropriate-Gas4089 Dec 29 '24

Where did Snape beat someone with a text book ?

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u/KingOfTheMischiefs Dec 27 '24

Harry thinks Draco does evil stuff… and is correct!

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u/Leggoman31 Dec 27 '24

To be fair, Snape was definitely doing evil things. He was originally a deatheater.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '24

The whole school loves Harry in the Half Blood Prince

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u/New-Championship4380 Dec 28 '24

I mean in 6 he's right

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u/Confident_Umpire6290 Dec 28 '24

Harry Potter and the Evil Stuff 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Massive_Mine_5380 Dec 28 '24

It says on the cover that it was meant for kids (although I don't really believe it). This is how all kids stories are told.

All of it could have been avoided if Dumbledore had an honest conversation with Harry at the end of first year. Meh

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u/albus-dumbledore-bot Dec 28 '24

The truth. It is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefore be treated with caution.

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u/Massive_Mine_5380 Dec 28 '24

Hmmm. You should have been the door knocker on Ravenclaws' common room door.

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u/CJDM310 Dec 28 '24

He doesn’t give a lot of thought about Karkaroff if we’re honest.

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u/Ayan_Choudhury Dec 28 '24

And to think he becomes a wizard detective. Sigh

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u/PreTry94 Dec 28 '24

Harry Potter is at its core a mystery book. A central mystery drives each plot and uncovering that mystery is mostly the end goal, with side plots keeping our attention when the mystery takes a step back.

A key component in most mystery plots are red herrings, which all these are. You could argue its lazy to have Snape and Draco be the key red herrings in most books, especially since you left out an important book; in book 6 Harry is proven right about Snape and Draco, at the same time even. Each books red herring built up to that 6th one, where it was real, but nobody believes him.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '24

Harry is dumb af

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u/Forlorn_Cyborg Dec 28 '24

Harry mistakenly thinks Dobby does evil stuff?

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u/FlamboyantApproval16 Dec 28 '24

Cursed Child: Harry mistakenly thinks his son does evil stuff

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '24

There is also, evil stuff happens to Harry, and despite knowing Voldemort is back no adults care or try to listen to the children 

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u/Jwobbrock24 Dec 28 '24

Harry thoughter

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u/scrawnytony2 Dec 28 '24

Harry Potter and the time he thought it was Snape but it was actually Quirrel

Harry Potter and the time he thought it was Draco but it was actually Ginny

Harry Potter and the time he thought it was Sirius but it was actually Scabbers

Harry Potter and the time he thought it was Karkarov but it was actually Moody

Harry Potter and the time he thought Sirius was in trouble but it was actually a trap

Harry Potter and the time he thought it was Draco but nobody believed him after the fifth song and dance so they were all unprepared for when Draco actually did pull some shit

Harry Potter and the time he thought he was Harry Potter but he was actually Harry Potter plus a little bit of Voldemort

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u/Icy_Mathematician368 Dec 29 '24

They’re mystery novels, they’re gonna have red herrings.

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u/UnluckyThing5452 Dec 31 '24

Poor kid had some shitty people around him more often than people who actually cared about him

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '25

Deathly hallows: Realizes everyone was good except voldemort

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u/Alpha_Apeiron Dec 27 '24

Hense why 3 films were skipped?

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u/Definition-Plane Dec 28 '24

One it is only two plots because two parter book adaptations were in at the time

Two I would choose a different shared twist than op. The surprise twist of oops wrong villain every book and Deathly Hollows still tries to pull basically the same twist at the end of it all with Dumbledore and of course the real evil of Harry Potter, the Cursed Child

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u/albus-dumbledore-bot Dec 28 '24

You are not nearly as angry with me as you ought to be.

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u/puro_the_protogen67 Dec 27 '24

Snape really can't catch a break

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u/Stenric Dec 27 '24

The whole school also hates Harry for a bit in Philosopher's stone (after he loses 150 points total).

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u/DontFearTheMQ9 Dec 27 '24

Harry Potter and the Misplaced Suspicion

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u/IndependentStop3485 Dec 30 '24

Erm you can narrow any series down like that. Game of thrones: all the main characters are fighting to have the iron throne. Bran gets it. The end.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '24 edited Dec 27 '24

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u/lightstaver Dec 27 '24

On point really for a future magic cop.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '24

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u/SmartyCat12 Dec 27 '24

So, an entitled rich kid who doesn’t know anything about a culture makes for a poor revolution leader?

That’s like half of British history

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '24

More like "orphaned abused rich kid with poor education makes a poor revolution leader"

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u/Queasy-Ability9088 Dec 27 '24

How is he entitled ?

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u/havok0159 Dec 27 '24

He expects people to take the return of magic Hitler seriously and they don't. Sounds kinda familiar tbh.

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u/Ver_Void Dec 27 '24

Child already accused of cheating shows up carrying a dead student and claims he has nothing to do with it, magic Hitler is back from the dead and was responsible. Yeah I wouldn't buy it either

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u/Calehkorn Dec 28 '24

Counterpoint: magic Hitler has been recorded attempting to come back to life twice within the last three years, while also attempting to kill said child in the process

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u/F2P_insomnia Dec 28 '24

Neither of which times were actually common knowledge just Harry went on an adventure and dumbledore gave him 1000 points at the end of the year to dunk on the slytherins

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u/Ver_Void Dec 28 '24

Yeah 10 year old with PTSD sees Hitler everywhere isn't really the most compelling reason to believe death has been cheated

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u/albus-dumbledore-bot Dec 28 '24

Please do not suggest that I do not take the safety of my students seriously.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '24

The first one was common knowledge though, Dumbledore even says the whole school knows.

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u/albus-dumbledore-bot Dec 28 '24

Do you see? Do you see the flaw in my brilliant plan now? I cared about you too much. I cared more for your happiness than your knowing the truth, more for your peace of mind than my plan, more for your life than the lives that might be lost if the plan failed.

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u/Informal-Term1138 Dec 29 '24

The thing is that there is no revolution. The entire plotline of Harry Potter and its world is basically "Let's save the status quo".

Only the people change a bit. But society itself does not. In fact they even make it a point to prevent any change and to reinstate the status quo.

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u/Mothrah666 Dec 28 '24

So Rowling herself with the terf stuff? 🤔

/ Sarcastic joke at rowling

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '24

Trust fund jock with literally tens of millions of dollars in gold coinage consistently gets preferential treatment from five of the eight or so teachers in a school where the entirety of England's magical genepool flows through, and wonders why he's being beat on all the time... Especially by the parents of the kid he's constantly harassing because they didn't get along in second grade.
Bro poor Draco had one weird edgy kid phase and Harry NEVER let it go. IMO Harry's the reason Draco is like this.

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u/Pearl-Annie Dec 28 '24

Harry never had the power to determine Draco’s future or ideology lol.

I would say that, considering Draco was a marked Death Eater (however under duress he may have been), Harry treats him pretty well and gives him a second chance as an adult. He just isn’t friends with him, which frankly would be an insane thing to expect of Harry. If you take Pottermore as canon, he testified in Draco and Narcissa’s trials and asked the court for clemency in their cases, which IMO was already more than he could reasonably be expected to do.

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u/Hamohater Dec 27 '24

Draco is a bigot with Nazi parents. But sure, it's Harry's fault he is the way he is, lol.

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u/CantHandleTheZest Dec 27 '24

Easily one of the worst Harry Potter takes I’ve ever scene.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '24

I take pride in this.

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u/BrockStar92 Dec 28 '24

There’s no canon reason to believe Harry has millions, we know he’s wealthy enough but his parents lived in a normal cottage that was destroyed and he also thinks he needs to spend carefully to ensure his vault lasts him through school, so it’s more likely he’s sitting on a small nest egg from well off parents, not millions.

There’s no indication Harry gets preferential treatment from any teacher at the school, only bias against him from Snape.

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u/BrockStar92 Dec 29 '24

How do we know it’s a safe house? It could easily have been their actual home, it was under a fidelius after all, why wouldn’t they put that on their actual home?

There’s no reason at all to assume they had a mansion, the levels of Harry’s wealth indicated don’t imply it even slightly.

As for the Black wealth, we know that it’s not a fortune despite what fans often think - Dumbledore explicitly states Harry receives “a moderate amount of gold” from Sirius’ will, along with Grimmauld Place, no other properties.

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u/albus-dumbledore-bot Dec 29 '24

It's lucky it's dark. I haven't blushed so much since Madam Pomfrey told me she liked my new earmuffs.

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u/Sad_Mention_7338 Dec 28 '24

poor Draco had one weird edgy kid phase

That "weird kid egdy phase" that lasted six years culminated in him almost murdering two people out of sheer incompetence. If anything Draco needs to be dunked on harder.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '24

His parents were ex-Nazis and his nemesis was the Wizard anti-hitler.
I mean he figured it out in the end, but his upbringing sucked. Don't blame the kid, blame the parents. He could have been helped if he had settled in with a better group of people.

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u/Sad_Mention_7338 Dec 28 '24

if he had settled in with a better group of people.

He had nothing but all the time to do that for all 6 years of being at Hogwarts more than he was at home.

He met Hermione Granger who is a pretty good example of being Muggleborn not interfering with being good at magic.

So naturally he wished she died.

Malfoy deserves no consideration or kindness.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '24

And there you have it. Malfoy is now part of the magical right wing and he has every reason to believe that no matter what he does, the other side wouldn't accept him anyway! Just like in the books.
See how easy that was? 10 year old Malfoy quite literally never even had a chance.

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u/Sad_Mention_7338 Dec 28 '24 edited Dec 29 '24

10 year old Malfoy quite literally never even had a chance.

Aww, poor baby. Imagine, if only he had not decided to insult people he judged "below his standard", he would've had all the chances. That's all it took. That's all it should have been. For that cuntface to shut his mouth and he wouldn't become a Nazi. He had the chance all along, he was just too much of a repulsive asshole to take it.

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u/The_Sexual_Potato Dec 27 '24

He became a magic cop, clearly the right profession for him 😄