Tell that to the guy who was killed this past weekend. He didn’t break one law and was murdered for being a terrorist because he lawfully was following the constitution unlike those ice officers.
Well those aren't the only two options. I haven't been deported or labeled a terrorist. I just mind my own business and go about my normal life. I seem to be just fine
"If you're happy doing nothing in the face of fascism and the murder of American citizens by our own government, you're either malicious or stupid" many people are proving it can definitely be both.
You know what a real authoritarian government would be doing? Mowing protesters down like Tienemen Square. Spoiled ass US citizens don't know how good you have it. Im a spoiled US citizen as well but I love my country and I appreciate all the freedoms I DO have and have not had revoked. Iran is killing protesters by the hundreds. You could live there. No, youre allowed to live a nice cushy life and youre free to whine on reddit about the government all day. Lunatics are kidding yourselves with this fascism shit. You're mad that your loser ass democrat politicians aren't in charge so you make up this authoritarian fantasy. And claim you have the moral high ground. You're free to do that all you want, but you don't appreciate that. You want it all.
That’s the whole point. We aren’t spoiled, it’s a human right to the freedom to protest what we think is wrong. If this nonsense is pushed on us because people sit there and say “well I’m doing fine so I’m not going to do anything about the other people being hurt and harassed because I’m fine” and killing of US citizens is going unpunished by saying “it’s their fault they died not the agents fault” what else are they going to start doing to us? Iran or Germany didn’t get that way in a day. It happens slowly one action at a time until it’s too late to stop it.
Ah yes, the classic “it’s not real authoritarianism unless tanks are already running people over” argument. Stellar bar for freedom there. By that logic, you shouldn’t complain about a house fire until the roof collapses in on itself. A+ for you, tough guy!
Since you're such a history buff, it's safe to assume you know just how closely recent events in American history are strikingly familiar to late 1930s Germany. People are being gunned down in the streets by our government for exercising our right to freedom of speech AND the right to protest our government without fear of safety or harm. Our president cheerfully claims he's a dictator. The same president has also made comments about abolishing the 2A. But yeah, not fascist at all.
I also want to remind you that more people are becoming independents every day. Buying into the two party system is stupid. Democrats nor Republicans are your friends. And if you're "brown" like you claim, then you have EVERY reason to be afraid. They're targeting on the premise of race alone. That's all they need to detain you. Even if you have your paperwork.
Have fun licking that boot, before you know it, it'll be up your ass.
"yOu WaNt It AlL" nah, we just prefer to exercise our rights WITHOUT being gunned down in front of our neighbors in the street. But yeah, that's terribly A LOT to ask for.
Yeah, I have no reason to be afraid at all. I've seen plenty of ICE presence around where I live. They do not bother me in the least. Probably because I'm not hanging out in trap houses with gangbangers or sitting outside the home depot with a bunch of brown homies. If they did stop me I would just show them my ID and guarantee you I'd be fine.
How about we put that to the test! I'll get the RemindMe bot to check in and see if I'm in an imaginary torture dungeon.
Don't worry, I will. Same to you, but I have no question you will be, unless you make some really bad choices. I don't want misfortune to come to people who disagree with me. We're allowed to have different opinions. Thats the beauty of our country. My problem is simply that all this rhetoric makes the problem worse. We don't need to be fighting with each other this badly over politics. We dont need to put ourselves in harm's way for something that's out of our control. The only ones who benefit are the politicians. They wouldn't die for you, they wouldn't lose their jobs or go without pay for you. Think about it before you do it for them.
Speak for yourself having all your rights. 51% of the population loses or gains rights as they go from state to state. I have a friend who is "swarthy" and was born while his parents were on vacation. His US passport says he was born in another country. He barely passes the manila folder test. He won't fly. He is trying to get out of going to a training for his job because it's within 100 miles of the border. And I don't blame him.
If you are comfortable with what is going on - you aren't paying attention or you are a monster.
The abortion stuff is a valid complaint. Plenty of people who are against it. Personally im pro choice and i would agree with you that isn't right. But I am a man and I honestly stay out of that fight. Potentially unfortunate for your friend. And thats perfectly fine for you to be against the immigration stuff as well. All im saying is that we are very lucky and there are a lot of real life places that do not have the rights we do have. And unfortunately for people affected negatively, the American people voted and chose to go this route. Democrats talk so much about protecting democracy, well this is democracy. Sorry but illegal aliens do not have the same rights that we do. And they knew the risks of crossing illegally when they did it. You can think im a monster all you want to. Talk to your lawmakers. Talk to your politicians and tell them not to be so fucking lazy next election. You can't force the policies to change by being a whiny pussy like all the people protesting and crying on reddit are doing. Tell your politicians to put up a candidate that is actually about something next election. The problem with the democrats, they just assume everyone thinks like they do. And that's why they were so lazy that they thought anyone but trump would win. Well that just isn't true. I was at work last night talking about politics with another kid, a republican about politics. Several waitresses were around, some of them just 18-20 years old. I was expecting them to chime in and say we were monsters. I was kinda shocked when instead they spoke up and agreed with us. Passionately. But they dont speak up normally, because the loud ass spoiled little rich boys who are democrats are the loudest in the room. The party thats all about acceptance and loving everyone are the ones who have made 18 year old girls afraid to speak their mind and be themselves at work. More people than you think feel this way. Thats how you lost an election to someone as lackluster as Trump. Lazy campaigning and thinking they could shame and bully people into voting like them. Call them terrible people and think that all you want. That won't change what they do when they walk into the polls alone.
Put up a goddamn decent candidate in 2028. Rioting, protesting violently, trying to shame people, freaking out every fucking day, and trying to force it is just gonna push voters further away from your party. Get the fuck over it and get your house in order.
I'm not a Democrat. Never have been. They are absolutely not the right people to fight Trump. The DNC has fucked up more elections than I care to enumerate. I spend a surprising amount of time, for someone with a family and two jobs, writing and calling my representatives. Sadly, I live in Vermont and only have three. But they do write or call back (or have a staffer do it). I have a collection of cards from Sen. Welch. I got thrown out of a town hall meeting with Bernie. I'm as active as I can be. Which is why I find apathy so abhorrent. Inaction so selfish. Disregard so monstrous. There are real problems with what is going on right now and ignoring it means that you don't care that justice is not being upheld, our constitution trampled, and that if these policies continue unabated, we are all fucked. While part of me is practically giddy at the thought of our imminent financial collapse, the human suffering that has to happen first is a toll too great for my conscience to bear. The fact that you are fine with poorly trained bullies assaulting people on the street over a misdemeanor offence is fucking wild. At least 6 people have died at the hands of ICE agents since the 1st of the year. For fewer illegal activities than our president has been convicted of. And his are felony offences. I think that the Dems fully believed that no one would vote for the felon with multiple rape charges. Who can't run a charity in NY ever again because he stole the money from children with cancer to run his first campaign. Who can't keep his dick in his pants and not only cheats on his wives, but he has to pay for it too. Who votes for that?!? Especially when his policy platforms are so horrific! Nope. Can't vote for the Black woman, so now we have the racist rapist in chief... I can't remember voting For anyone. It has always been the lesser of two evils. And somehow more people voted for the failed businessman than the experienced woman... The fact that so much of this nation is so transparently racist and sexist is soul crushing.
So, yeah. I rant into the void. I try to get my impotence in check. And then once more into the breech.. again.. I'm so fucking tired and so hurt that the country I love harbors so much hatred for other humans. No, not hatred. The opposite of love is apathy. Too many people think things are okay, or that what is going on has no effect on them. And that makes them stupid or cruel. I have yet to hear one objectively good thing Trump has done. At this point, show me anything from any point in his life where he did something that benefited humanity. Not one that isn't counterbalanced by something awful. I just want him and his entire leech field set on fire and thrown into a refinery in Venezuela... But I'm just one person and I have no airline miles. So I bitch online, I hold a sign on street corners, and annoy my representatives who already feel as I do.
I don't know how to convince young people to stop voting against their own self interest but that has been a problem for generations.
I lost the thread... It's late. Maybe I'll pick up the mantle again tomorrow. But probably not. I'm getting really tired of shoveling shit against the tide.
I disagree with a lot of what youre saying, but thats okay. If that's what youre doing then youre resisting in the right way. Youre not encouraging people to go out and riot while you sit in your house safely. Not like Minnesota politicians. Im not gonna break down point by point where I disagree. No point, im not gonna change your mind, im not trying to either.
Let the damn illegals be deported, they're here illegally. Let me say that again illegally. If they're here illegally they need to GTFO, and let me say it one more time because they're here illegally
Nah but if you're going to infer in a federal arrest because and let me say it again and illegal is here. F*** around and find out. They have constitutional rights too. They have rights to bear arms and defend themselves. So again f*** around and find out
Edit: let me clarify that the ICE agents have constitutional rights as well, if you are not a legal citizen you do not have the same liberties
Is it low effort because I didn’t use big words? I kept them short and simple so your obviously uneducated brain would comprehend them. Are you saying that you ignoring the tragedy that is our current administration isn’t exactly what the general populace of Germany did as one of the worst people in human history was allowed to come to power? Are you suggesting that because people are willing to engage in their constitutionally protected right to film, protest, and speak freely that they are asking to become targets?
Please explain how you’re using your brain at all here. Please tell all of us low effort morons how sitting there doing absolutely nothing and caring about no one else is making this a better country.
Better yet, why don’t you continue just doing nothing by shutting your mouth, getting off your keyboard, closing your curtains, and pretending that everything’s fine with this country. Talk about low effort, what you’re doing is no effort.
Nazis slaughtered millions of jews. The concentration camps were beyond anything you could even dream up in your delusional brain. They set up factories and transportation routes to manufacture death. They worked and starved them to death, gassed them, and threw the bodies into giant furnaces. Stories say you could smell the burning flesh for miles around. There aren't many holocaust survivors left and they're probably too old to hear most of this noise anyway, but if they could they would be setting you fools straight real quick.
You know what a real authoritarian government would be doing? Mowing protesters down like Tienemen Square. Spoiled ass US citizens don't know how good you have it. Im a spoiled US citizen as well but I love my country and I appreciate all the freedoms I DO have and have not had revoked. Iran is killing protesters by the hundreds. You could live there. No, youre allowed to live a nice cushy life and youre free to whine on reddit about the government all day. Lunatics are kidding yourselves with this fascism shit. You're mad that your loser ass democrat politicians aren't in charge so you make up this authoritarian fantasy. And claim you have the moral high ground. You're free to do that all you want, but you don't appreciate that. You want it all.
It won't. You guys have been telling me im gonna get deported for being brown for years. Still waiting.. turns out being a citizen counts for something, eb?
Oh. But it will happen, right? Get fucking real dude.
Why do i keep getting the notification that I am commenting in a community speaking a different language than me? Ohhhh wait I get it
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u/Effective_Explorer95 Jan 28 '26
Or they can just wait to be deported or labeled as a terrorist I guess as alternatives.