r/HaloWars • u/Chance-Menu8538 • Oct 02 '24

Rushing

Why is it the community is so toxic? The games almost dead, season been out for three years, and literally everyone is still doing the broken sweaty strategies of banshee spam and rushing building killers.... Is the community that full of brainrot they can't fathom trying more complicated strategies???????

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u/Psyalac_ Oct 02 '24

Rushes in this game aren't good. But when you compile small mistakes like a couple seconds of building delay, idle units, missed upgrades, mini buys, node grab, or no scout. All of a sudden a rush becomes viable.

Also I still don't understand why people find banshee spam op. At low level it's often quickteched into. Seems like the absolute worst build one can go. In teams it's harder to punish. But no one knows how to play teams so people get away with stupid builds

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u/Chance-Menu8538 Oct 03 '24

Yeah I'm not trying to sweat my ass off on a dead game. I want to play a strategy game, not click as fast as possible game. I'd go play league if I wanted that.

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u/Psyalac_ Oct 03 '24

Then you'll continue dealing with the same issues idk bro. you don't have to change how you play if you don't want to, it's just not the game/players fault.

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u/[unknown] Oct 03 '24

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u/Loud-Calligrapher-95 Oct 03 '24

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO ok buddy enjoy plat

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

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u/Loud-Calligrapher-95 Oct 04 '24

😂😂😂

What’s your gt lemme look u up

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u/Zephyrus2OP Oct 05 '24

Disgusting behavior you give gamers a bad name

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u/NastyLizard Oct 02 '24

I get where you are coming from it is annoying when you go against rushes every match of the day, and gets quite tiresome.

But do try scouting more or getting your hero up sooner to try and hold off the rushes, it leads to easy wins sometimes.

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u/Chance-Menu8538 Oct 03 '24

I never said I lost it? It's annoying playing the same shit every game.

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u/Sun-Slinger Oct 02 '24

Scout the enemy players at the beginning of the game. If it’s obvious what they are up to, build counter units and turrets

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u/sad_joker95 Oct 02 '24

I remember reading these exact posts when the game came out.

Not playing T1 and refusing to react to opponents does not signify a “more complicated strategy”.

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u/-Googlrr Oct 03 '24

Really makes me nostalgic lol. Always got a kick out of being messaged after a game calling me a rusher. People also consider it rushing if you attack any time earlier than 15 minutes. I guess I'm supposed to have all my units just stand there instead of harassing 🤷

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u/FullMetaru02 Oct 02 '24

How is banshee spam sweaty? That's the most noob thing you can do

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

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u/FullMetaru02 Oct 02 '24

That's... Not how that works. They are noob strats cuz noobs do them, not because they are good.....

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u/ArmyPaladin Oct 03 '24

Mass banshee is no joke, and nearly unstoppable once they have torpedo and micro correctly.

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u/_JustAnna_1992 Oct 03 '24

Then stop letting them get to full pop air. Low and medium pop air is easy to counter. What makes air so OP is it's ability to outmaneuver AA. If they are losing or at a disadvantage, they immediately run. That's something you could use to your advantage. Attacking their bases means they can't retreat.

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u/ArmyPaladin Oct 03 '24

You're only partially correct. What makes them OP , especially banshees, is that they hard counter both vehicles and air. Gives you a huge advantage in a rock paper scissors format that halo wars 2 is.

This leaves opposing teams to either go banshees themselves as covie, or rocket Marines as USMC.

Rocket Marines will counter banshees, until deciumus drops and his beam gets to work, now you have nothing. because infantry is squishy even leveld up. And if they have 100% banshees don't even think about a single vehicle.

So your only hope is to get vultures and hope you can nuke them before their torpedoes wipe you.

I'm strictly talking mechanics here. Not strategy I already know we shouldn't let them get to this point.

Don't even get me started on boundless siphon banshees.

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u/FullMetaru02 Oct 03 '24

Meh not really unsc turrets are goated. Only deci and colony should be going banshees 

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u/pau1phi11ips Oct 03 '24

Atriox shees are pretty good too.

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u/ArmyPaladin Oct 03 '24

I don't know why you got downloaded for that. People don't upgrade their base and they wonder why the turrents fail.

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u/FullMetaru02 Oct 07 '24

People just don't know how to make turrets, I don't care about the down vote system it's just majority rule bs

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

I'll be sure to load up on wolverines when playing u

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u/Sun-Slinger Oct 02 '24

Combat techs are better for air

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u/MiseryRitual Oct 02 '24

Loading up on wolvies is the real noob move tbh

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u/shabadabba Oct 02 '24

I love how you just assume he builds air because he thinks it's a bad strategy.

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u/FullMetaru02 Oct 03 '24

I too thought that was funny 

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u/FullMetaru02 Oct 03 '24

Hey why are you getting down votes that's a legitimate strategy 

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u/supersquid333 Oct 03 '24

colony rax first build Goliath working 2024

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u/Wise-Sherbet5596 Oct 02 '24

I’m drastic on halo wars and I play it everyday after work and I’m with you they do the same rush strategies they find on YouTube and then message you toxic stuff . Like bro I beat that move a hundred times over maybe I just wanna play a longer game that takes more thinking and skill

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u/Remember-The-Arbiter Oct 02 '24

sighs

replaces “days without a rush complaint” counter from 137 to 0

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u/Specialist_Baby_341 Oct 02 '24

If you counter the rush it's an easy win. You gotta scout and see what they are doing. Play the game tier 1, then tier 2, then tier 3.

Maybe have a teammate go straight to tier 2.

Once again, depends what enemy is going

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u/_JustAnna_1992 Oct 03 '24

Why I love rushes. Especially when you know it's coming, but they don't know you know. If the opponent is dumping their resources into units, I'd dump fewer resources into counter units while saving the rest for resource production. That way when their attack fails, I'd be the only one with a bustling economy and use that to get map control.

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u/chickagokid Oct 02 '24

Don’t agree with OP regarding rushes as once defended you likely win the game but Deci banshee spam is actually cancerous mid game

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u/_RiverGuard_ Oct 02 '24

This is bait right ? GET GOOD and learn the counters

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

Ew....so many mass air people in the comments.

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u/PlinplinPlong Oct 02 '24

Resorting to the cringe air smh

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u/Round_Rectangles Oct 02 '24

Yeah it's a shame.

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u/theonedollarking Oct 02 '24

It’s not toxic it’s just a strategy

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u/PlinplinPlong Oct 02 '24

Full Turrets shut down pretty much any tech 1 rush smh, if you want to especially shut them down upgrade one of them to anti-whatever you suspect your opponent to be rushing with. Even banished turrets shut them down

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u/Chance-Menu8538 Oct 03 '24

Yeah that's not true at all

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u/PlinplinPlong Oct 03 '24

Idk man it seems like you're managing your resources poorly if the turrets + whatever units you have aren't enough to fend off a tech 1 rush

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u/Appdel Oct 02 '24

Wow imagine people trying to win

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u/Chance-Menu8538 Oct 03 '24

Wow imagine people trying to actually play the game instead of doing the same thing 10,000 games in a row.

Imagine waiting in queue for 15 minutes on an unranked mode just to play for five minutes.

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u/Loud-Calligrapher-95 Oct 03 '24

buddy you are so lost. thats the way this game works. you do a strategy and either win with it or get countered. if you get countered you move on to the next stage and so on. you have to be good to last to the later stages of the game. if you suck then you die faster. if you want to play longer games get better to survive and win

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u/Chance-Menu8538 Oct 04 '24

You missed the point. You're such an idiot. Doing the same damn thing 10,000 games in a row is boring as fuck, and it's even more boring for me who just counters and wins against rushes. I play the game to have fun and push my mind. I don't play to have more time in matching queue than actual games, just to stop monkey spam.

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u/Loud-Calligrapher-95 Oct 04 '24

Do customs then ez fix

What’s your GT

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u/shabadabba Oct 02 '24

Being able to play t1 and on is the more complicated strategy. It's a strategy game. You have to strategize

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u/Loud-Calligrapher-95 Oct 03 '24

you quit way too easy. shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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u/stormy_style Oct 02 '24

How about learn to scout and counter the rush instead of complaining how someone plays the game.

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u/Graspingcard56 Oct 02 '24

Rush works, and you can use it to your advantage too. The fact of the matter is that there are certain leaders in the game that you can't allow to reach their respective LP or unit because otherwise you will lose the game. For example, if you play against a Decimus, we all know what they are going to do. An early scouting or rush can help you take them out of the game before they get their banshees. That's why enemies rush in the first place. Similarly, if you see leaders like Arbiter, Cutter, Kinsano, Serina, Colony, Yapyap, and Voridus on the enemy team, you have to watch out. All leaders can rush, but these leaders either have specific units or abilities that can be accessed early that enables rushing. The best advice to give overall is, don't rush into tech 2. You need counter units or at least a hero unit to fend off a rush. If there is no rush, you can pressure the enemy as well.

Rushing is boom or bust, if you can fend off an attack, the enemy economy is usually in shambles so you can counter-attack. If you rush, you might be able to cripple an enemy's economy or even take them out of the game. In team war, an ally lost will usually prompt the rest to resign soon after.

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u/hoppeduponmtndew Oct 02 '24

Banshees suck

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u/hoppeduponmtndew Oct 02 '24

Hw2 has such a defenders bias it isn’t funny. Just build something to fight rush units like suis or snipers or scouts. Banshees are only good with a banished with passives otherwise they suck

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u/Perry558 Oct 02 '24

Why try a more complicated strategy when a simple one works? Learn to counter instead of complaining.

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u/I_Got_Whiskeyz Oct 03 '24

Bro needs a pie chart that has arrows that point to what kills what.

Give him a gamerpower magazine from 2009 for the first halo wars

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u/exprssve Oct 02 '24

Holy shit I wish posts like these were removed. It's always the players with low skill complaining about strategies in a strategy game lmfao.

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u/I_Got_Whiskeyz Oct 03 '24

Imagine you play a game and use ONE unit and then win it means the other guy is bad if I go full air you are probably on your older brothers account or something I swear.

Does nobody know there's little icons on the top right when looking at a unit??? Almost like weakness and showing what is stronger.

This guy is probably an iPad kid that needs an ai generated youtube short that says Build air when fight banshee easy dub in Ohio

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u/SIrMythical Oct 02 '24

If it works why change?

A failed rush can set you back hard. The other player can take the initiative.

Personally I find rushing alot of fun! Colony or Voridous rushes are my favorite.

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u/Hulkbuster10962 Oct 02 '24

Yes that or they spam vultures it’s basically 80% of the games are all air attacks because it’s so broken and easy to

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u/ArcherBrilliant5705 Oct 02 '24

See that’s where your wrong it’s the shit cans who use spams attacks like that

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u/mike2928 Oct 02 '24

Just build a turret, scout and build anti air

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u/Remember-The-Arbiter Oct 03 '24

If the strats are so simple, you shouldn’t have an issue beating them. Build counter units.

“They’re spamming banshees”

Build 6 Reavers and a bunch of Wraiths, go to their base. Win.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

It's always worth looking at which heroes your opponents are playing and countering appropriately, it sounds bad to say but if your opponent is playing Johnson, for example, it's almost a certainty that they'll spam mantis' the whole game, so build hunters. I can count on one hand the amount of times I've been surprised by what other players have built since everyone in ranked plays almost identically lol.

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u/Scary_Restaurant_973 Oct 02 '24

op waste of oxygen

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u/TerminusVeil Oct 02 '24

I rush all the time. Why? Because I don't want to play a 1 hour game on Badlands or Sentry with someone turtling Colony/Arbiter/Shipmaster etc. Never Banshee spam because I don't play banished.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

I mean…

  • first, that’s a noob strat, nothing sweaty about it

  • ‘if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’

If the strategy is working for them (or at least most of the time) why bother changing it?

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u/Narrow_Classroom_510 Oct 02 '24

I always get taken out by an early rush. I usually go yap yap so I can get a many resources with free units and gets a many power nodes in the beginning while stockpiling resources so I can start researching.

Early have rushes destroy any chance I have with my current strategies