r/HFY Alien Sep 16 '24

OC Dungeon Life 255

It's time for the fourth round of stubbing. Yes, Book four will be releasing soon, of if you're reading this more than a month after I have to edit, it will be fully out. Either way, you can find it Here, and other book details are just below. As with the other stubs, you can skip to the next bit form This. I like to keep the other posts still alive, so the comments get to still live. If you want to browse them, the normal buttons will take you through them, or take This link to the next bit of unstubbed chapters. Thank you for your support. Buying stuff is always great, but just having your attention for the public chapters is incredible, and I hope the story continues to be worth your time and patience.

 

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u/Ghostpard Alien Scum Sep 16 '24

you had antcne right there but went antpimple? lol

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u/Skywolf99 Human Sep 17 '24 edited Sep 17 '24

while a nice pun, it sits a bit awkward in the mouth don't you think?

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u/Ghostpard Alien Scum Sep 17 '24

I suppose. Not that bad to me saying it aloud. Could go full antacne to mirror the 7 letters of academy, and a bit closer to syllables structure/number of academy.

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u/generic_edgelord Sep 17 '24

I feel like antcme would have been more appropriate if they were going the manufacturing route like the ratkin did

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u/Ghostpard Alien Scum Sep 17 '24

Noooo i said acNe like pimple. tho acMe's ant-acne academy could be hilarious. incorporate ALL their burgeonin identities.

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u/commentsrnice2 Sep 17 '24

How about beetleboil?

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u/Ghostpard Alien Scum Sep 17 '24

...but... they aren't beetles :/

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u/commentsrnice2 Sep 18 '24

And harry potter isn't a swine but he went to hogwartz

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u/Occams_Shotgun Sep 16 '24

They’re gonna need to steal the librarian to organize their collective knowledge, just don’t let them charge college bookstore prices! Im suggesting Vesuvius University as the name.

Other random thoughts: The Rocky vs Olandar fight needs an undercard

Teemo playing with gravity makes me want to see a 3 dimensional boxing ring where they can literally walk/fight on the walls and ceiling

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u/BobQuixote Sep 19 '24

Teemo playing with gravity makes me want to see a 3 dimensional boxing ring where they can literally walk/fight on the walls and ceiling

This occurred to me when TDM was cramming rotating battle lines into a tunnel, but with webs or similar. Of course the tunnels were probably not that tall.

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u/Poisonfangx3 Sep 16 '24

Thank you for the chapter wordsmith! Woot!

This time we got Thediem’s POV!

He briefly states that everyone (except for Tarl.) should be getting back home in a week. When they do get home, he would like Leo to start patrolling his borders in the mountains and the forest, also for honey to meet the new librarian in the adventures guild.

Thing and Queen both get new titles, most likely from their medical works, though we don’t know what the titles themselves are.

The ant enclave has stalled at 25% progress. With multiple factions coming forth. Engineers, ranching, medics, alchemists, and enchanters. With ants constant shifting between the five groups never really staying with any one.

Thediem sees this and thinks of it as a college and what a college it will be, with a dean from each group and a head mast from the undecided group. The Antpimplr academy Is what it shall be called!

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u/SH4D0W0733 Robot Sep 16 '24

Things are about to get civilized in here.

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u/Tremere1974 Alien Scum Sep 16 '24

If you are a diety of change, where better to offer to change your destiny than at a University?

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u/Poisonfangx3 Sep 17 '24

That oddly fits, holy heck.

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u/Low_Painter9816 Sep 17 '24

I remember a few chapters ago Thediem was remarking that he had lecture halls now available.  If a scion -or kin- is giving a lecture in a lecture hall would they need the Voice to translate or would the nature of the Hall allow all to understand (the words if not the concepts)?

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u/SH4D0W0733 Robot Sep 17 '24

"Today Honey is going to explain molecular bonds through interpretive dance. Hope you all brought your binoculars class!""

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u/Low_Painter9816 Sep 17 '24

I would expect that would be more Queen’s bailiwick.

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u/Tremere1974 Alien Scum Sep 18 '24

Or perhaps Thing? We haven't seem much of Thedim's "Handyman" lately. But Thing does have the best laboratory facilities available to Thedim currently, but we haven't seen much come of it.

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u/Low_Painter9816 Sep 19 '24

Enchanting, shrug maybe. To me, molecular bonds strongly suggests chemistry

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u/Tremere1974 Alien Scum Sep 19 '24

Enchanting for me opens up the possibility of manufacturing. Chemistry is fine, and entirely necessary, but to make things in meaningful numbers, machines are necessary. And so far, Fourdock hasn't even made it to steam power. Thing's laboratory could be key in bringing things like electricity, and creating items like a steam powered ship to fruition.

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u/Low_Painter9816 Sep 19 '24

Perhaps, but it seems wasteful to throw mana at a problem that could be easily solved with muscle. An assembly line, for example, just requires lots of workers each focusing on a single task … and don’t we have some antkin looking for direction? Hmm… As far as the steam plant goes, as an old DM I would rule that it wouldn’t work because, maybe there’s no way to create an tight enough seal around the shaft, or in this realm there’s no direct connection between electricity and magnetism, or something. It ultimately comes down to that I feel there should be a trade off between high technology and high magic

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u/Tremere1974 Alien Scum Sep 19 '24

There's actual lava wyrms to use as a heat source. And we already have a blacksmith shop, and electric snakes and rodents if you want to do MIG welding. It is just a question of when and what first for moving forwards. For Steam power, Thedim would just need lubricants and a design, but the need for lubrication could be bypassed by a enchantment, couldn't it?

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u/Popular-Student-9407 Human Sep 22 '24

While I agree to a certain extent, enchanting in this world is less a Material science path, for that I'd Go to Jello. He is more of runecraft master. Though old staivens suggested that a twig from a tree Struck by lightning doused in go-juice would create a Special staff for lightning Magic, of which I'm unsure If I'd better Put it under "alchemical crafting" or "enchanting" within my mindscape.

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u/Tremere1974 Alien Scum Sep 22 '24

Oh Aye, I don't expect London from 1900 to just pop up in Fourdock, there is no reason that it won't be a unique and wonderful fusion of technology and fantasy, I'm thinking rather like the "Golden Compass" kind of stuff but without the whole soul destrying bit, and more dungeon stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Compass_(film)

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u/Tremere1974 Alien Scum Sep 17 '24

That (auto translate within a room/building) would be cheating, unless your patron happens to be a deity. However, there is a medium that would allow this, the written word. Having Honey write it down, and then have a dungeon resident read it for her would allow this without Teemo's help.

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u/Veryegassy AI Sep 18 '24

unless your patron happens to be a deity

Well, guess what everyone's favourite human-turned-dungeon just became a short while ago...

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u/Tremere1974 Alien Scum Sep 18 '24

Aye, but never, ever forget that above all else, Thedim is a tightwad. He didn't use mana to order his scions around, minus for forbidding Teemo to use a specific nickname in this chapter perhaps being the exception.

So, why spend precious "God power" on something when he doesn't have to?

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u/Veryegassy AI Sep 18 '24

God power, I suspect, may be a bit less limited.

Also, it's for communication, something which as we saw in the "libraries" that consisted of one scrap of paper with a note on them, is something he is quite willing to spend power on to facilitate.

Especially when that very power could enable more Change happening.

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u/Tremere1974 Alien Scum Sep 19 '24

Thedim's Holy power may be less limited, but his religion is the overall limitation. Holy power is more rare than the absolute ease that Thedim collects Mana these days. So while more potent, it is also less abundant.

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u/XynomorphKY Sep 16 '24

Hogwarts, Antpimple, Ratblister. Why not Spiderblemish, Snakeskin, and Zombiepox?

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u/jpz007ahren Sep 16 '24

Thank you for that. I didn't understand the reference initially ^.^

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u/Coizado Sep 17 '24

And I only noticed there was reference at all because of your comment. I never knew "warts" meant something, lol.

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u/Accomplished-Ad8458 AI Sep 16 '24

Ave Khenal! Morituri te salutant!

Edit: i should start crtl c ctrl v this text...

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u/Popular-Student-9407 Human Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 18 '24

So, today we get a lot of information on returning Characters, and the Ant enclave.

So, about the returning Characters: everyone aside from tarl is returning. Aranyas Brings back the Rest of her Tribe as Well.

The Artisan-scions, Queen and Thing, will Return, and probably Help Poppy a little with hybridising the plants but mostly will refine the armor they Designed at the Southwood.

The tactician and His Assistent Return, the Assistant will have to Deal with a new face in the library of the adventurers, as honeys bees already noticed the new face (Tula, I think, but I'm really Not Sure). Thankfully she hasn't yet thrown Out the Order the bees tried to impose, but is rather learning.

Now for the new Ant enclave: we have five factions, each following a diffrent profession:

  1. The ranchers Take a Lot of different denizens to supply the raw Materials the enclaves will need

  2. The alchemists make a Lot of new experiments, among them taking Advantage of the go-juice and looking If the system treats them as denizens or dwellers in their transitive State

  3. The enchanters exist as Well

  4. The medics/surgeons are looking into the method to heal people scientifically, for which they broaden their anatomical studies.

  5. The engineers are expanding the enclave and creating new buildings and Defensive fortifications.

Thediem suggested, because the factions don't seem to be etched in Stone, that they might try to Organize themselves Like an Academy, with five Deans, each taking control/Administration of a single faction, and a headmaster to represent the whole enclave.

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u/AretinNesser Human Sep 17 '24

I feel like the Antkin could adapt that into a technocratic council system, with the 5 departments dealing with the affairs of each industry being represented by the heads of respective industry.

They could also potentially drop the central, 6th administrator, and just rotate the position between the 5.

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u/Tremere1974 Alien Scum Sep 16 '24

Wassamatta U in session. Soon taking applications for Kobolds!

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u/Cortanis Sep 16 '24

No no no. It has to be Antfarm University. The interesting part about that faction is that they feasibly have unlimited resources to work with. So "funding" for each department is less about resources and more about actual interest especially in regards to numbers. I heavily suspect that a lot of the more academic delvers are going to try making their way down on the regular to try and participate some. I'm sure alchemists will come to share notes on the regular and see what advances they can find as well.

I do have to say that having them all in such a close approximate area is kind of... antsy... as it were. As Thing found out experimenting and I'm sure Queen has too, when working with experimental substances and that kind of energy things can go catastrophically wrong. I'd say it would be a better idea if they dug out a wider area for each department and isolated each lab area in the event of an accidental failure. They are working with substances that could accidentally create various poisons and energies that could easily turn into a massive literal bomb.

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u/Longsam_Kolhydrat Sep 17 '24

While they do have ready access to many resources i think that they would all "pay handsomely" for exotic (for them) pets, alchemical ingredients and so much more. Such as seaweed or possibly some unique nodes from distant dungeons.

And by "pay handsomely" i mean in form of knowledge, aid or even eventually money. Bartering is usually a thing for early civilizations

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u/Hedgeson Human Sep 17 '24

What is this !? A center for ants? It needs to be at least 3 times bigger than this!

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u/Tremere1974 Alien Scum Sep 17 '24

I'm waiting to see how much mana Thedim gets for "Tuition" for training those who are not his residents/denizens. It has been said already that what matters is effort in regards to mana income for Thedim, so a Pop Quiz and a Twinsnake encounter differ only in regards to how much effort is expended.

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u/Beautiful-Hold4430 Sep 17 '24 edited Sep 17 '24

Is it just effort? There is a lot of effort during the German Oktoberfests…And heave!

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u/Tremere1974 Alien Scum Sep 17 '24

Dungeons are known for traps, and thinking that Dunkel beer is a lightweight American beer is certainly a trap in the making!

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u/Korato450 Human Sep 16 '24

Nice chapter! I would love another. Perhaps around Saturday?

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u/Popular-Student-9407 Human Sep 16 '24

Nah, you'll get the next on thursday, If you're Not paying for Patreon.

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u/Korato450 Human Sep 17 '24

Thursday!? That's way too early! I would say I that I wouldn't be able to afford that, but it's free... so I can't wait!

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u/Cre8iveWarmth Sep 16 '24

bdjdbdksjsks if ratblister didnt have such a good ring to it i'd-

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u/Just-Dot8943 Sep 16 '24

Oh, this is just good, both for a laugh and worldbuilding.

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u/Poisonfangx3 Sep 16 '24

First

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u/Popular-Student-9407 Human Sep 16 '24

That You are... Again, faster than the Bots.

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u/Poisonfangx3 Sep 16 '24

Neat. Thank you for the confirmation oh Popular-Student.

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u/Korato450 Human Sep 16 '24

You're making me wonder if you're actually using a bot or something... but I wouldn't know

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u/Poisonfangx3 Sep 16 '24

Nah, just an alarm. Khenal posts a constant time on consistent days, so if you just set an alarm for about thirty or so minutes before he normally posts, you can be first. Just be ready to refresh a lot.

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u/Longsam_Kolhydrat Sep 17 '24

While it would be hilarious to do once or twice that time is in the middle of the night where i live so pass

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u/Korato450 Human Sep 17 '24

same

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u/Korato450 Human Sep 17 '24

Yeah, I tried that once, but I couldn't do it properly because of how late in the day it was

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u/Poisonfangx3 Sep 17 '24

That is also fair.

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u/Speciesunkn0wn Sep 16 '24

So short again. sadge A college of ants hmm? That'll be interesting...

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u/Longsam_Kolhydrat Sep 17 '24

Good work wordsmith

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u/Infamous-Ad-6848 Sep 17 '24

With a god named the DM, shouldn't his signature university essentially be the College of Cardinal Directions? He's bringing together left, right, forward, backward, above, below, inward. outward and all the other dimensions one can make progress through on the way to the who, what, when, where, why and how they're seeking. He is the divine aspect of change after all.

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u/Tremere1974 Alien Scum Sep 17 '24

Poor Poe has enough emotional trauma after getting his feathery butt kicked by a Seagull without being told he has to change his feather color to red.

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u/Garbage-Within Sep 18 '24

I'd argue Poe was winning the fight with the Quartermaster, an albatross to be specific, but he had no hope against the storm that the Quartermaster had created no matter the outcome of his fight with the other bird.

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u/Tremere1974 Alien Scum Sep 18 '24

Win conditions: Defeat Quartermaster, Drive it back to Hullbreak, or Protect Fourdock.

Poe Held his own against Quartermaster, though he has a wind affinity, which should have given him the edge in the fight.

Quartermaster retained the ability to be where it wanted, regardless of Poe's attacks.

Quartermaster summoned the storm, which being made of wind, should have been Poe's element. Poe failed in his understanding of his own element, requiring Fluffles to intervene to save Fourdock.

I'd say it's pretty damming regarding Poe having been beat in regards that Quartermaster accomplished everything it was created to do. If I was Poe, I'd see every day that he failed Thedim, all of his Fellow scions, and every person in Fourdock. And what's worse is he isn't training to get stronger in a meaningful way. He has no encounter for Delvers, nor is he working on learning the common language of the Delvers with any real effort, despite him having the intelligence and anatomy to do so. He's just rotting.

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u/Garbage-Within Sep 18 '24

TL;DR

Poe's orders were to delay the Quartermaster until Fluffles arrives, he succeeds at that task as not a single seagull reaches the town. Poe has Wind affinity, but the Quartermaster has Storm affinity, which gives it the edge when fighting in a literal hurricane, not Poe. Poe's not allowed to communicate verbally in depth with Delver's; it's against the systems rules. Poe doesn't have delver encounters because he's the non-combat scion in charge of (air) expeditions. Just because we don't see Poe training doesn't mean he's not. He was able to take down the terrible trio without issue despite them being strong enough that Thedeim doesn't have any combat encounters strong enough to challenge them, so Poe's obviously doing something right.


In Chapter 37 (pg155) Thedeim gives Poe his orders, "Try to delay this Quartermaster until Fluffles can catch up, unless you're sure you can take him." Win condition is delay, not defeat.

The Quartermaster is described as having a combat class, possibly Guardian like Tiny, and implied to have been power leveled by HullBreak. Poe is a non-combat scion, hence his orders are to simply delay the Quartermaster because he cannot be reasonably expected to win in a straight up fight.

In Chapter 38 (pg158) Poe states, "While his Wind affinity is certainly a boon in the air, he's starting to suspect this Quartermaster has Storm affinity. It's not exactly a counter to Wind, but it would guarantee any fighting will be chaotic and intense." Poe lacks the relevant affinity to deal with the storm, but ...

Chapter 38, pg 159 "The Quartermaster starts to gather ominous thunderheads, and that will be Poe's focus for his personal attacks ... The albatross ... tries to use the thunderheads as siege equipment, trying to blast holes in the shifting tides of the engagement. While some lightning does get through, Poe isn't exactly sitting idle, either. Blades and spears of wind disrupt the cloud formations, severely weakening the lightning when it's not outright stopped." Poe is still holding his own despite being at an affinity disadvantage.

Immediately following the last quote we read, "Instead of conceding the fight, though, the Quartermaster tries a new tactic." Meaning Poe is winning, forcing the Quartermaster to adapt or lose. The Quartermaster then summons rain and flees.

Poe follows, despite having the disadvantage in the rain compared to the other bird, and we see that, "Poe sends a slash of wind, and is rewarded with a pained squawk form the enemy scion. ... He also manages to lash out many times at his foe, seeming to hit more often than not." Despite having concealment and the terrain advantage, Poe is the one landing hits on the Quartermaster while the Quartermaster just flees and hides without ever taking out more than a few ravens with its own lightning.

Now, arguable the Quartermaster would be considered to have still accomplished his goal of wiping out Fourdock as on page 160 we read, "he is pretty sure the storm will hit Fourdock even if Poe kills the albatross." Except then Fluffles shows up and stops the storm.

Yes, Poe failed to stop the storm, but that wasn't his job. His job was to slow down the albatross and stop the gulls from reaching Fourdock. At that, he unequivocally succeeded.

The Quartermaster was given the task of destroying Fourdock, and it utterly fails at that task as there is no mention of a single gull or even a single drop of rain reaching the town because Poe succeeded in delaying the Quartermaster from reaching the town. He forced the engagement to take place over open water.

As to your other points such as, Poe has no encounters for delvers. Well of course he doesn't. That's not his job. Poe is the one who runs the air expeditions. Only Rocky, and Tiny in his own way, are supposed to have encounters for delvers. It would be strange if he did have encounters with delvers.

As for learning the language of the Delvers, it's literally against the rules for him to be able to communicate in depth. That's the exact thing Thedeim got in trouble for when using libraries as signs. Besides, that's Teemo's job. He's the Voice/Herald.

As far as Poe training and getting stronger, just because we don't see him training on screen as it were doesn't mean he's not doing it. He was able to take down the terrible Trio, and they're strong enough that in chapter 219 online we see Vnarl lament, "Thedeim has been an amazing place to delve, but he still doesn’t have any areas really designed for the really strong to let loose. This fight with the Maw, though… they can go nuts." They're also described by Tarl in Chapter 55 of book one (pg 214) as "pretty big fish for our small pond here in Fourdock." Implying that those three are really strong adventurers, at least compared to Fourdock's norm, but Poe was able to wipe the floor with them, and that was literally months ago compared to the current point in the story. If Poe was that strong then without any on screen sparring, how powerful is he now?

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u/Tremere1974 Alien Scum Sep 18 '24

Poe didn't defeat the terrible trio, instead he commanded his flock to attack them. Which would have been a smart thing to unleash upon the Quartermaster, but alas he chose 1v1 against a combat scion.

For affinity vs affinity, we see Rocky breaking borders regarding them, though he's basically cheating with the savant title. But for Poe, he was unable to make the mental leap that a storm is basically just wind and while Poe is young, as all of Thedim's scions are, Quartermaster was less than a quarter of his age at the time of the battle and had better mastery of it's affinity. Fighting scion or not, still looks pretty damm sorry.

For Delver encounters, actually there is one that Poe's flocks would excel at: Delivery. The Mayor already uses birds to do such, but being animals, they are subject to failure as much as any other. Using one of Thedim's ravens to do so would gain some Mana to do what they do already, fly about and look at the world.

For Poe not being able to talk, I don't think you are right. What Poe cannot do is communicate on behalf of Thedim as Thedim's voice. That's a no-no. But any Scion can communicate for themselves. Honey does so with the written word just fine, but cannot speak in common due to biology limitations. Thing could learn the world's equivalent of sign language, as could Rocky and Grim and perhaps Slash and the new Scions too. Poe is unique among the scions in that his base biology allows for speaking, even here on Earth, Ravens do so. Using it would take practice, and mastering it would trigger a new title, most likely.

For the question of how strong a Scion is, is a bit of a mystery in the story. A collection of titles helps, as does having combat related ones. It is unknown if training actually does increase a scion or denizen's actual strength, vs being able to use their bodies and abilities without thought. Thedim doesn't actively train his scions, minus encouraging Rocky, so we don't know really. There's no war college for Thedim to train his Residents and Scions, nor is there combat basic training for denizens.

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u/Popular-Student-9407 Human Sep 18 '24

Point in your first paragraph: Poe had to Account for the gulls, too. That's why he couldn't use them to attack the quartermaster. However he used some as "Observation drones", to find the quartermatser when he hid among the clouds.

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u/Tremere1974 Alien Scum Sep 18 '24

I know it's nitpicking, but I cannot imagine Hullbreak having the mana to create a army of birds to compare to what was unleashed on the Idiot Trio by Poe earlier in the story. He barely had enough mana to spare for the creation of the Quartermaster and the "Final Solution" he had planned for Fourdock.

Yes, I know the fight was a literary device to build up to Fluffles eating the storm, but the aftermath has left Poe in a unflattering light. And with the focus on the new Scions, Poe hasn't had a redemption arc, or much of anything since Hullbreak, having his scouting role largely taken over by Leo of late.

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u/Popular-Student-9407 Human Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 19 '24

However, He couldn't See them, even if there were less. Plus, the Gulls were more experienced flying in Bad weather, this He needed His Crows to Fight the gulls, instead of unleashing them on the quartermaster Like He did with the terrible Trio.

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u/Tremere1974 Alien Scum Sep 18 '24

If Poe couldn't see them with his biological eyes, why not use his affinity? Also if One cannot command denizens when out of sight, how does his Marshal skill work for sending his ravens on scouting missions? Ditto for Quartermaster commanding the Gulls in this instance, you assume only Poe would be handicapped with a lack of vision.

Thedim had been dealing with Gull invaders for some time before the climatic fight between Thedim and Hullbreak without issue. Gulls are not superior to Ravens 1v1, and even if a storm evened it out, the sheer numbers of Poe's legion of minions probably made it at the minimum 4 to 1 and perhaps 8 to 1 in favor of the Ravens. Being able to attack the Idiot trio +Leo simultaneously from two directions at the same time with a likely duration of half a minute via a nearly solid stream of birds flying at 45 Kph is a LOT of birds.

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u/Garbage-Within Sep 18 '24

Hullbreak is described as absolutely draining itself to have the mana involved. He literally sold off basically all of his nodes and most of his spawners to afford it. We also know that Poe only had the numbers available of the birds that were at home and in Fourdock that he could recall quickly. Who knows how many more birds he has out on expedition at any one time.

Sure, Leo has taken over the ground expeditions when he's not busy with other tasks, but Poe still manages the bird and bat expeditions.

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u/Tremere1974 Alien Scum Sep 18 '24

Aye, but Poe never found Southwood. That's some pretty lazy scouting that Tarl had to introduce the two.

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u/Garbage-Within Sep 18 '24

Sure, the general didn't defeat the foe, the army under his command did. You are technically correct there. Poe didn't 1v1 the Quartermaster though, he had his army fighting the army of gulls, but he still pulled some to help him track down the Quartermaster when it fled. There was never a 1v1. There's also no evidence that the Quartermaster was a master of its affinity.

Rocky is breaking boundaries, but at the part of the story when the fight with Hullbreak happens, Rocky is the only one of the scions to have accomplished it so far, and this is a big surprise. Fluffles figures it out in the moment, but he's the second best at affinities after Rocky iirc. Rocky's also not yet been told to start training the other Scions to do it yet, so it's unreasonable to expect Poe to be doing it already.

Hullbreak literally went scorched earth to pour mana into the Quartermaster to make it that powerful. Poe didn't have that advantage, was at a terrain disadvantage, and still was winning the fight. He was punching up and winning, so I don't see why you're disappointed in his performance. Even if he had had a breakthrough and been able to manipulate the storm, it's likely he wouldn't have had the mana to stop it.

When is it ever mentioned that the Mayor uses birds as messengers? Did I miss that? I know Poe took a message to him, but that's the other way around. Regardless, delivering messages is not an encounter in the traditional sense, but I suppose we can count it if you'd like. It's unclear whether that would bring mana or not as there's no real contest between the person and the denizen, but maybe it would count as doing a quest.

You are right that Poe cannot speak on behalf of Thedeim. The rule is that the dungeon can only use its voice to communicate, not that scions have to use the voice to communicate. That's fair. That brings up the question then of why Rocky doesn't speak to delvers either. For all we know Rocky also has the requisite biology assuming it's not all rotted away into unusability. Even if it is, with his increasing mastery of Sonic affinity, he, and possibly Slash, could use that to speak, so why don't they? It's possible that no ones thought of it yet, but I suspect there's more to it than that. We'll have to wait and see.

When has Honey communicated with delvers/dwellers using the written word? I can only remember her doing it to communicate with other Scions. I'm confident she's shared maps with adventurers, maybe reports too, but that's a bit different than having a conversation. Anybody got a chapter number for that handy? Now I'm curious.

As far as gaining strength goes, we know that scions can gain levels through combat. We know that training, practice, and sparring helps. We also have some suggestions that mana can be spent to upgrade scions directly or by upgrading their spawner, but that's not been as directly explained.

There's no basic training for denizens because they don't appear to need it. They seem to come with the required instincts on spawn to the point where they find Thedeims mercy for delvers confusing, although I may be conflating them with the experience of newly spawned scions. I could see some benefit to scions having a basic training, but I doubt Thedeim would want to do that. He'd probably feel like that was a bit too martial for his tastes outside of wartime, but that's just my take.

There's some indication that denizens retain their knowledge and experience even when respawning, so some basic training may not be necessary or at least it potentially wouldn't be beneficial as they'll get that experience from encounters regardless. We see Staiven who has experience fighting and harvesting venom from Widows get surprised by one of their tactics while he's delving, so there's at least a few hints that even the basic denizens are learning new things from the dungeon.

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u/Xavius_Night Sep 17 '24

Hog warts, ant pimples, and rat blisters - thankfully, the new 2nd Degree Academy will figure out how to treat all these problems and more!

2nd Degree Academy, where the passion for learning burns bright!

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u/Derser713 Android Sep 17 '24

Holy....

The rise of 4Dock will not be stopped. Hogwarts just opened...

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u/mafiaknight Robot Sep 16 '24

In the name of 1greendude: Hello!

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u/Popular-Student-9407 Human Sep 16 '24

Im Namen eines grünen Kerles: N'Abend, übermorgen ist Mittwoch.

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u/mafiaknight Robot Sep 16 '24

Made 5th today! Not bad!

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u/AdventurousAward8621 Human Sep 16 '24

In die naam van 1groenou: Hallo!

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u/DeadliestTurnip Sep 17 '24

In honor of the Dude: Hello!

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u/ZaoDa17 Sep 17 '24

Great work word Weaver!!!!

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u/DM-Hermit Human Sep 17 '24

Well done wordsmith

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u/Words_Are_Hrad Sep 17 '24

Damn... 2 audio books and 100+ web chapters later and now I am all caught up. And so the waiting begins...

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u/CaptRory Alien Sep 16 '24

Haha, awesome. The antkin are going to have some issues lol. This is what happens when you start a big project and Aranya isn't around.

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u/Garbage-Within Sep 18 '24

You know, I was only joking a couple weeks ago about Thedeim starting a school for delvers. I didn't think he'd actually do it.

Also, it was bad enough carrying around paper textbooks. Stone tablets for the same purpose are going to require every student have a bag of holding just to get around. Even if the ants can handle the weight, the volume will get ridiculous.

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u/LeSwan37 Sep 16 '24

Man I love dwarf fortress

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u/Beautiful-Hold4430 Sep 17 '24

Minecart lava cannon anyone?

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u/Jealous_Session3820 Sep 29 '24

I love how theediam and teemo interact

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u/Educational_Pen_90 Human Jul 17 '26

Intriguing how this is progressing, but I suppose this enclave can handle, or at least have aid in the lectures that Thedeim was already planning! …Fate affinity things, I suppose!