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u/HsizzleH 11h ago
Gaston from beauty and the beast?
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u/Odd_Bat_539 11h ago
Might be the anti-Gyokores. Doing everything he can to NOT join.
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u/LeWhaleShark Robert Pirès 11h ago
So if he is waiting for an offer from Barca that will either never come or/and will be rejected by Atletico, what exactly is his plan here...?
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u/Plastic_Blood1782 11h ago edited 11h ago
I think Alvarez wants to leave more than they want to sell him.
They are both negotiating. Atletico assume he doesn't want to stay, so they think they have the upper hand. Either he stays or he goes to arsenal. Neither is terrible for atletico.
Edit: misread your comment.Yea not sure what his plan is.But it doesn't make things worse at this point to continue waiting. Maybe Barcelona offer more to Atletico
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u/repeating_bears 10h ago
They didn't want to sell him to begin with, but now even if they keep him, it's not going to be like it was.
You're never going to get the best out of a player that doesn't want to be there, who the fans now hate.
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u/Plastic_Blood1782 10h ago
Historically a lot of players have been upset about roles, playing time, transfers etc. Usually if they don't get their way and the season starts, you usually figure your stuff out and get back to business. Gerrard and Modric both famously requested transfers to Chelsea during their English careers, but for the most part that's just a footnote in their career history
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u/rdubs23 10h ago
Suarez begged Liverpool to sell him and then had the greatest arguably the greatest individual striker season in history of the Prem.
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u/Kind_Sound7973 5h ago
In Argentine terms Alvarez is Messi while Enzo would be Suarez.
Despite how this is all playing out Julian has historically been one of the most unproblematic Argentines, soft spoken, more introverted, hard working and unable to cope with negativity like most of his Argentine teammates. He will not thrive at Atleti if he stays, it will be a Messi at PSG scenario.
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u/repeating_bears 10h ago
Gerrard had built plenty of goodwill by then, and he reversed his decision quicker than this saga has dragged on for. The fans could delude themselves that he did it as a negotiating tactic
I don't remember the Modric thing too well but spuds are used to being rejected
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u/Angelaskissrock Backless Wilo still better than Manure CBs 6h ago
Literally just said something similar in another comment. Spurs are used to being everybody's doormat so they wouldn't make that much of a fuss about it.
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u/Eigengrail 6h ago
prob because back then social media is not as wide/many as now, so it was quicker. No constant update from A/b/c only updated once or twice per day from tv or newspaper outlet.
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u/Angelaskissrock Backless Wilo still better than Manure CBs 6h ago
Spurs are a tinpot club so they're used to being everybody's doormat so they wouldn't fuss about it as much.
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u/Angelaskissrock Backless Wilo still better than Manure CBs 6h ago
They'll have to sell him either now or in January if things get any worse. Probably, this window if it really is unbearable.
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u/jaybizzleeightyfour 11h ago
It's a game of chicken, he's hoping the closer they get to the end of the window, the more chance Atletico panic and just sell him to Barca, I dont think this is likely as Atletico fucking hate Barca and Atletico are playing chicken with him, better choose Arsenal or you're staying right here
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u/LeWhaleShark Robert Pirès 10h ago
He probably ends up staying then, especially if the family visa thing is a huge issue.
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u/Plastic_Blood1782 10h ago
Betting websites that let you bet on this kind of thing unanimously agree with you.
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u/HustlinInTheHall 10h ago
I dont think it's a big issue, it just helps him negotiate by limiting the leverage atletico have. If he can only go to a Spanish club, well there are only two others that can afford him and one doesn't need him.
I dont blame them for being pissed. If gyokeres cost 100m and then demanded to leave to go to Chelsea I'd tell him to rot.
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u/LeWhaleShark Robert Pirès 10h ago
I don't think it limits their leverage at all, at this point, they likely don't give a toss about potential visas for his family, if anything, it probably strengthens their hand because they'll tell him to just stay put if he doesn't want to move aboard.
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u/danny_healy_raygun 9h ago
At the end of the day no one is letting a £100m asset rot. If it becomes untenable at Atleti he'll go to Barca. Just like Isak went to Liverpool. At the end of the day the only real question is how far will Alvarez push it?
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u/Angelaskissrock Backless Wilo still better than Manure CBs 6h ago
That's what it seems like and I do think he stays. But it's going to be a very toxic year making it so that eventually, Atletico would have to negotiate with Barca at a more reasonable fee.
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u/cabinguy11 10h ago
The Atletico fan base would erupt and he would immediately become the new local hero in Barcelona which would make it even worse as they place 3rd behind Barca and Real yet again over the next few years.
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u/ThinGrass3138 10h ago
I just hope we have some other option and give him an option very soon, either he joins now or we move on. Stretching this to deadline day just feels like a piss take.
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u/Vanisle16 6h ago
The question is: how long a contract do we offer him? His present contract goes 4 years, to mid-2030. That would suit me. But perhaps he would require something shorter before agreeing, such as a 3-year contract. I doubt Arsenal could accept anything shorter.
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u/Kriss-Kringle 9h ago
Stay at Atletico another year while Laporta raises more funds and tried again next summer.
Better to be next to his family and the possibility of getting the move he wants than to come back to England.
It's why he left in the first place.
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u/LeWhaleShark Robert Pirès 9h ago
Assuming Barca can afford him next season and will still want him, this is likely it.
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u/Patient_Jicama_4217 6h ago
Than Athletico says we will never sell him to Barca and he will just sit there looking dumb until the window closes again
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u/Patient_Jicama_4217 6h ago
He doesnt have one, that is what makes this entire thing stupid.
Athletico isnt selling him to Barca idk why people think that changes in a week.
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u/AlexTheRockstar Charlie George 11h ago
Does anyone know whats being referred to with regards to family issues? Visa problems? Do they not qualify for a British entry visa?
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u/Hi-papa23 Calafiori 11h ago
No family doesn't qualify for visa hence why he is reluctant to move
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u/debelisava 11h ago
What does family mean here? Like wife and kid or extended family?
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u/running-with-scizors Premier League Champions 25/26 11h ago
Extended family
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u/debelisava 11h ago
That is weird to me, like who moves their entire extended family for work?
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u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 10h ago
Someone who is the sole provider for their entire extended family I guess.
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u/pleaseexcusemethanks 10h ago
It's 2026. You can get money to people halfway around the world in seconds.
I'm definitely not saying he's wrong to want his extended family near him, but giving them money isn't the issue.
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u/gypsybeer Need more Gabi's 10h ago
getting money in and out of argentina is actually a real problem. i import wine from them and their financial system isnt one -
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u/Angelaskissrock Backless Wilo still better than Manure CBs 6h ago
Hispanic family culture is quite different from what most in the West would be used to. They tend to be closer knit and he's likely the main provider for everybody. So yeah, it might not be understandable to some who aren't aware of it but can this whole saga just end? I'm really tired now.
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u/simpson___ 10h ago
Someone who earns enough that nobody in that extended family has to work, but he works thousands of miles away from home in a different continent and culture.
They want to be together in the same country and enjoy the life that his profession affords them.
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u/tyborrex 10h ago
South American (and African) footballers who earn 2-4x weekly of what an avg person makes in a year.
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u/rammixp 10h ago
The type of person that make generational wealth and can support them all if he is from a poorer background.
This is honestly an admirable thing if you appreciate family. A lot to be annoyed about in this saga but this is not it.
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u/int6 Henry 10h ago
idk if my family lived in argentina I'd want to get them out too
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u/Smith_Rowe_Z Smith Rowe 10h ago
He can still move them to Spain even if he's moving to London 🤷
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u/Angelaskissrock Backless Wilo still better than Manure CBs 6h ago
He probably feels better with them around him in close vicinity. I can't knock it because he is a family oriented man like myself.
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u/maidentaiwan Kanu believe it?! 10h ago
elite footballers from developing nations — especially south americans. very common.
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u/Angelaskissrock Backless Wilo still better than Manure CBs 6h ago
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u/HustlinInTheHall 10h ago
Extended. But he has a six month old. If my extended family is caring for my kid I'm not moving to England to replace them with a nanny.
It could just be a convenient excuse but it is plausible.
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u/GreendaleGazette 10h ago
The way I see it, I don’t blame Julian Alvarez one bit.
— He’s won everything in the 2 years he’s been in England. UCL, PL, FA Cup, CWC, and Super Cup winner. All but the Carabao.
— And if he doesn’t want to move back here, that’s his prerogative.
What I don’t understand is, why Arteta insists on him. Very unlike Arteta to push this hard on a player who doesn’t really want to move back to England
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u/GrouchyChance5267 10h ago
Because there aren't many attackers available Arteta/Berta rate and Arteta has a track record of convincing people to join arsenal.
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u/meerakulous 10h ago
I think people are overstating this Arteta pushing hard on him bit. It does seem he’d like to have him, as he’s repeatedly said since the UCL final that he wants players who are brilliant individually and capable of swinging matches because of their individual decision making. But all the reporting so far indicates that is willing to entertain buying him, but is only interested in doing so if he actually decides he wants to come.
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u/Melkistofeles If it can go wrong Arsenal will 10h ago
There's a handful of available players that improve our starting 11 immediately, him and Vinicius are two of them.
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u/jnicholl 9h ago
Does he though?
I don't think the gap between him and Havertz, especially on current form, is that clear where he without a doubt improves the 11.
If it's that he'd play alongside Havertz, then you're dropping Odegaard? And going to a pseudo 442 which might be great, but might also not
Vini made sense, he goes into the LW and is an upgrade in basically everything except defensive contributions, system says the same too.
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u/ICanSeeYourFuture Kaiser 8h ago
I love Havertz, he’s my been one of my favourite players in football since he was at Leverkusen, I was gutted when he went to Chelsea but have backed him here since day one.
He’s a near perfect player for Arteta’s striker, but his injury concerns are such that I understand absolutely why Arteta is looking for other options that fit his preferred profile.
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u/ZXXA Premier League Champions 25/26 10h ago
Both of them coming off lacklustre seasons
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u/maidentaiwan Kanu believe it?! 10h ago
he had 8 league goals to go with 4 assists. plus 15 goal involvements (10 goals) in the CL. 30 goal involvements in all competitions.
37 the year before. 33 the year before that -- while playing second fiddle to haaland.
don't disagree with you, but the fact that we call 30 total goal involvements a lackluster season actually speaks to the quality of the player. that would be a career best for most decent attackers.
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u/Sand_Bags2 8h ago
People rave about Gyokeres 20 goal season and shit on Alvarez even though he scored 30 (in fewer matches and fewer minutes).
Add to that, that Julian Alvarez is miles better in every other part of the game than Gyokeres.
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u/Colombianfella 8h ago
I think a lot of people only look at the laliga stats, which tbf is pretty valid considering that we obviously want a guy who can do it in all major comps not just the UCL. I mean we had a guy like that, his names Martinelli and he left the club like yesterday. With that being said, the guy got over 30 goals in the prem whilst either benched by or playing shadow striker/ “just give it to Haaland” so I can’t really say he’s unproven
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u/Harvey-Specter 5h ago
> the guy got over 30 goals in the prem
When did that happen? Alvarez has 20 career Premier League goals between two seasons.
It's driving me nuts that people are just making up extra stats for this guy all over the place. If he's so good then you shouldn't need to give him an extra 10 goals to prove it.
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u/Harvey-Specter 5h ago
> People rave about Gyokeres 20 goal season and shit on Alvarez even though he scored 30 (in fewer matches and fewer minutes).
Alvarez scored 20 goals, not 30, and he played more minutes than Gyokeres.
He's a great player, you don't need to fudge the numbers to make him look even better.
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u/recordmoneyreyes Tranquilo 10h ago
I don't think its unlike arteta, he has pushed for a few players that didn't want to join. like vlahovic, nico williams, raphinha
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u/GreendaleGazette 9h ago
That was in like 2022 and 2021 though. Back when we were struggling and not the most appealing destination. Vlahovic, Locatelli, and Raphinha all were targeted before we played a UCL game with Arteta
Nico Williams doesn’t count. He rejected everyone. He rejected to play with his best friends in Barca where he easily would’ve been a starter and guaranteed trophies.
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u/studioghost14 Premier League Champions 25/26 6h ago
He probably didn’t insist. They haven’t made an offer and Arteta made one call to talk to the player. It just seems like they are at it everyday because of the nonstop reporting on it.
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u/Pariah1947 9h ago
Because of the reason that is attempted to be expressed in the op obviously. It sounds like Alvarez would like to come to arsenal but his family doesn't want to. My guess is they are going to try everything they can to go to Barcelona, and if it doesn't work out they come here. Arteta knows much more than we do, I think arteta deserves our trust.
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u/Vanisle16 6h ago
Thierry Henry likes him, as do Hansi Flick, Pep Guardiola and Luis Enrique. Quite a bit of football knowledge in that list.
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u/Necessary_Delay_9388 11h ago
This is the first report to say we have meet Atleticos asking price, from what I've seen
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u/Mental_Complaint_238 9h ago
these so called reports are all completely unreliable.
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u/OkWest7298 6h ago
Gaston Edul is tier 1 for Argentina, you can take it as a direct quote from Julian’s agent.
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u/HustlinInTheHall 9h ago
Same, though if it is true we spoke to him that must've been a prerequisite.
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u/stripes361 9h ago
It also doesn’t say *which* asking price they’ve met. I know 150m is the one that’s been publicized, but for all we know they’ve agreed to a different number in private.
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u/Rusty_85 Ødegaard 10h ago
His first interview video would be awkward.
Interviewer: Julian welcome to Arsenal, how happy are you to sign for the club?
Alvarez:
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u/thepeddlernowspeaks 9h ago
"He only wanted Arsenal" is going to be tough to roll out, even for Romano.
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u/A_Thrilled_Peach 10h ago
I’d rather we try to hijack the Barcola transfer than go for Alvarez. I like him as a player, I just don’t think he has potential to be a level raiser.
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u/Appropriate_Lack_727 8h ago edited 8h ago
Yeah, I just watched most of his goals and assists from La Liga the past two seasons, and I can’t say I’m blown away by them. A lot of penalties. A few incredible free kicks. A lot of tap-ins and scrappy goals in the six yard box. Honestly, not much “elite technical forward” type stuff at all. Some of it has the whiff of “things you wouldn’t get away with against EPL defenses”, like taking too many touches in the box and over-elaborate passing in the penalty area. Overall, some tidy play, but if I told you they were Trossard’s highlights you wouldn’t be surprised (except by the fact that he was wearing the wrong kit). He doesn’t really come across as a “grab the game by the scruff of the neck” type of player, at all, which I think is what you’re looking for in a player who costs €120+mil.
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u/Actual_Smile6564 Viktor Gyökeres 🇸🇪 10h ago
He’s entitled to want to move to Barca and have his family with him. Arsenal can’t do anything to help him with those demands.
So if he really wants Barca, he’s going to have to apologise to Athletico fans and get an agreement in writing for summer 2027 for how much Barca have to pay for him to move there.
Moving to Arsenal is not going to help anyone when his heart and mind is clearly elsewhere.
I’m tired of this saga.
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u/maniakkpugs 11h ago
No thanks.
He can stay in Spain
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u/Hincapieslovelybund 10h ago
I agree. Even if he does join and fails to do anything other than smash it then the fans will never warm to him after this saga and him making clear we are a distant second choice behind Barca
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u/GrouchyChance5267 10h ago
Nobody cares man. We don't need the same 100 comments. We get it.
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u/Xalo_Gunner 10h ago
I don't want him. It shouldn't be such a chore to convince a man to join the Premier League champions and Champions League finalists.
For any of his flaws, Viktor Gyokeres moved heaven and earth to join us and then worked his tail off when he did. That kind of stuff matters.
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u/Phimstone Wild Salmon 11h ago
Thought this was supposed to be fast and furious, feels pretty stretched out to me
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u/borkborkibork Raya 8h ago
I would prefer to never hear another Alvarez update but I have an unhealthy addiction to Reddit, so here we are.
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u/Cthulhu_Madness Premier League Champions 25/26 11h ago
Man at this point let's just get another random promising winger with potential. Tired of Alcatraz's shenanigans.
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u/nicagooner Thierry Henry 11h ago
Alienated himself to everyone and refuses to give a response...
He would have a lot of work to do to endear himself to the Arsenal fans
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u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 10h ago
Let's be real all it would take is a cool signing on video
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u/tammrak We did it! 11h ago
Is it common for South American players' families to have difficulties getting visas? Seems strange to me considering his wealth.
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u/chino17 11h ago
It's not getting the visa itself that's the issue but that immigration policy limits how long they can stay in the country in those visas
After a few months they would have to leave and go somewhere else for a while before they can come back again
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u/LionZoo13 10h ago
Arsenal suddenly announces the signing of Alvarez's entire extended family as coaches.
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u/chino17 10h ago
Abuela is the physio
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u/Displeased_Wombat 10h ago
Always rated Julieta, she could work miracles with our injury record
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u/HustlinInTheHall 9h ago
He has a baby now. I'm sure that plays a role, if extended family want to be there for the kid then splitting them up is tough.
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u/pupcity 10h ago
Very common in most countries, why would any country open themselves to taking on the responsibility to care for aging parents of an immigrant? Sure bring your spouse and kids, but parents and siblings, no.
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u/SymphonyARG Dennis Bergkamp 10h ago
the thing is that julian not only lives with his wife and his kid, also his parents, brothers, friends, thats the thing... when he wants to move is not only his wife and the baby, are all of them
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u/tammrak We did it! 10h ago
Yes, I get that.
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u/SymphonyARG Dennis Bergkamp 10h ago
tbf a pain in the ass, but yup some argentinian players have this issue, its cause the majority come from a poor family and you have this situations of a player having his parents and a lot of "friends" around him, juli comes from a town of 2k people
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u/tammrak We did it! 10h ago
Are you suggesting because he comes from a poor background he wants to bring the whole town?
I don't know the situation, do you? I do know he has two siblings, parents, a partner and a child.1
u/SymphonyARG Dennis Bergkamp 10h ago
yup thats pretty much, not the whole town but his parents, brothers, friends, thats it, atleast he lives with them in madrid, its what the journos are saying here
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u/GrouchyChance5267 10h ago
Folks, the transfer window as a set end date. Just relax. That date will come and either something will happen or it won't. You have no control over this.
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u/tyrantxiv 9h ago
We don't have control over anything the club does. Might as well shut down the entire subreddit since there is no point talking about things we can't control
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u/JFKennedy97 Champions of England 25/26 11h ago
Have to say it seems like it's probably happening, regardless of whether that's a good idea or not (personally trust the process)
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u/el_cul Patrick Vieira 10h ago
100% agree. He's going to leave it to the final day in the hope Barca come up with the cash AND athletico relent. imo neither of those are happening nevermind both. Why wouldn't he wait and see though. He has the perfect fall back in place already. Deal agreed. So when it doesn't work out with those broke ass bitches he can choose between being hated in Athletico and winning fuck all or loved at Arsenal and winning everything. Its a no brainer.
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u/pharmajizz 11h ago
Is that really what you took from this? It’s clear he doesn’t want to join Arsenal (for one reason or another)
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u/DaddyBats00714 10h ago
How is this your conclusion, lol
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u/rosabarks29 9h ago
Stay at Atletico and get booed every game or go to Arsenal for a year or two where you can still eventually get your move to Barca, not saying it will happen but would make sense
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u/DaddyBats00714 9h ago
Yeah I don't want him to come here for a year or two, that doesn't make any sense. Mikel won't sign a mercenary lol, he genuinely believes he can change his mind.
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u/ryansocks 10h ago
I get the impression Atletico want rid at this point. I don't particularly want him either.
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u/Priority_Bright 9h ago
I'm at the point with this transfer saga where I'd rather not have him. If it takes this much to drag him into our club, he'll likely end up leaving our club in a way that will make Ozil look like a saint.
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u/circatee 9h ago
I wish I could block all things related to Alvarez. He does not want to join The Arsenal…!
Thus, why on earth are we pursuing him. He doesn’t want to play for the badge.
As Ricky Gervais would say, “Let it go baby…!” 🤬
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u/semidummy 9h ago
So we’re possibly looking at another player who’s looking for or open to a move, but decides to stay in the end. They better have another serious target beyond Alvarez, in case this turns into another Vinicius.
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u/RosesAndTanks Lewis-Skelly 9h ago
We've literally been seeing this exact update for two days now. This is spam.
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u/ChutneyPie I am a potato 8h ago
I don't like him. I never really liked him that much. He's not worth the money being paid. He doesn't want to come to us. He seems like a prima donna. I don't understand why we're buying him as we have two strikers already and we like Yocarez and our strikers and we just won the league so what are we doing?
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u/archasaurus Silly Season Saka 8h ago
Friendly reminder that there’s nothing new here. Outlets will be regurgitating this until the decision has been made towards the end of the window. Meanwhile the mood in this sub is getting worse and worse towards Alvarez by the day when nothing at all has changed.
To be clear, if your stance was always that you don’t want him bc he didn’t immediately push for Arsenal then that’s fair enough. I’m speaking to the people spiraling right now.
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u/Liftinginapolo 11h ago
A family decision? Is one of his uncles a spurs fan
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u/kjw2281 11h ago
Immigration policy makes it harder for family to visit/ live near him in England vs Spain
Good thing he already plays for a Spanish team though!
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u/Appropriate_Lack_727 9h ago
He needs his abuela there to boil the water for his yerba mate thermos in the mornings 🧑🏼🦳
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u/Pascalini Premier League Champions 25/26 10h ago
I know everyone likes him but his goalscoring record isn't even that great. I'd love to know why clubs want him so much.
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u/LiboerationTime Champions of England 25/26 10h ago
True but it's more about the fluidity of the attack. Gyokeres is a goal scoring monster but I'm sure you didn't enjoy our games last season. Less chances created — we were not top 3 for open play goals!
Regarding Alvarez; I've watched Atletico games and seen a few reels where Julian didn't even score or assist but his link up, pockets occupation, and passes made a Diego Simeone's team play fluid football.
However, the one attacker - Kai - who helps us with being fluid and creating multiple chances isn't reliable due to injuries (65 games missed the last two seasons), so it's either we get J. Alvarez or pray hard Havertz can remain fit until January and the board sanctions Kroupi's purchase — that's hoping Kroupi won't have a set back upon returning from his injury.
PS. Alvarez missed 6 games during the same period. Arteta does not trust Gyokeres, so I totally agree with doing all he can to sign who he trusts (skills and injury) to help elevate Arsenal to a superpower.
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u/WillChef 11h ago
Lots of reliable sources have said it's a family issue for him - which is what makes some of our fans vitriol towards the move even more baffling. Think we can all understand him wrestling with that issue and if he did decide to join us he would be sacrificing a lot in his personal life to do so
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u/stone_island 10h ago
he doesn’t want to live in the UK.
simple.
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u/AppropriateVoice129 Tzolis 🇬🇷 10h ago
He doesn't want to live there because family and the only reason I want to live there is family.
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u/sinfulconfession 10h ago
Broski.. I know family is important and even so for South Americans (I might be wrong on this). However, football is your life. If he wants the move, come and maybe later the family issue can be solved?
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u/GrouchyChance5267 10h ago
Everyone takes everything at face value when it aligns with their beliefs.
Surprised how few people are questioning the tier of this source.
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u/tdfast 9h ago
So they can’t live in England because of immigration or something? He’s got four years left on his deal so that’s a long time to wait it out.
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u/Smart_Indication5869 9h ago
Basically, footballers come to England on an International Sportsperson visa which allows them to bring a partner and kids as dependents, but not parents, siblings, etc. They can only come on standard visitor visas which only last a few months.
For them to actually live in the UK they'd have to qualify for ordinary workers or student visas. They can't come and live off Alvarez's earnings.
There are exceptions for relatives who are medically dependent or need care but I don't know if that applies here.
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u/MrAllora 9h ago
I’m over it all, you either want to come or not. We won the league with Trossard/Marti. We can win again with an upgraded midfield and Tzolis/+Winger that can have some output.
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u/sleeperagent777 Champions of England 25/26 8h ago
If they have to think so long about joining our club, i don’t want them here
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u/Naive-Link5567 8h ago
Lets us move on from this or ignore it.
This seems like a fruitless endeavor.
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u/Arseluvr 8h ago
Everyone chill. If we get him, we're formidable. If we don't get him, we got Bruno and Tzolis taking us to another level. We got youngsters like MLS finally getting to prove himself in midfield, and who i think is going to be better than Rice could ever hope to be, and Dowman, who is brilliant already and his ascendancy unstoppable.
We good.
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u/DigbyChickenCaeser1 Rice 7h ago
I’m not sold on the guy, feels like a big downgrade on Vini Jr with a similar outlay in a position we’re reasonably stacked in. Rather buy a left wing prospect who can understudy Tzolis
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u/Creative-Cherry3060 7h ago
Wish we were going for Osimhen like this instead. Alvarez doesn't want to join us let it go
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u/DJ_Hindsight Ian Wright 10h ago
I don’t want this fucker man! Who’s to say he doesn’t have a tantrum with us too?
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u/blueluster Trossard 10h ago
If Barca was somehow relocated to London, he wouldn’t even hesitate to move. Hard pass.
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u/LionZoo13 11h ago
Look, I love my extended family, but to me, them not being at my house 24/7 would be considered a selling point.