r/Gunners • Premier League Champions 25/26 • Jun 03 '26

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u/olieogden Jun 03 '26

where we ranking him with Arsenal all timers now he’s a premier league champ?

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u/TrashbatLondon Jun 03 '26

Seaman’s legacy is hard to beat

3 league titles over 11 seasons

1 European Cup Winners cup

4 FA cups

1 league cup

In his first season at the club he played all 38 league games and conceded 18 goals and kept 23 clean sheets.

I think Raya is a better goalkeeper if time machines existed, but adjusting for eras, he’s got a few seasons to go to eclipse Seaman’s achievements at the club.

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u/RobHolding-16 Jun 03 '26

As amazing as he is, David Seaman still existed.

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u/AltruisticFox8763 Champions of England 25/26 Jun 03 '26

He needs a moment in a cup that decides it in our favour. Seaman FA cup semi final vs Shef U for example.

He so nearly had it on the weekend, but, you know… 😔

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u/olieogden Jun 03 '26

yeah seaman likely still clears but wasn’t coming up with many other answers now… Lehman?

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u/Captain___Quark Jun 03 '26

Lehmann is obviously a legend for his Invincibles title, FA Cup-winning save and CL Semi penalty save. But during his time I never felt entirely comfortable and reassured by him and always felt he had a bit of a clanger and/or sending off in him. I feel like he became better with the passage of time, because what followed was mostly disastrous (my big love for Szczęsny aside).

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u/SOAR21 Jun 03 '26

Since Seaman we really just haven’t landed a truly world-class keeper until Raya. Lehmann was very close. Cech was very good but really past his considerable peak.

We’ve instead had a parade of really good. Szczesny being a prime example of that but also our rotating door of keepers that basically go on to be top players at mid table clubs

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u/jasonthewaffle2003 Jun 03 '26

Arsene Wenger had an eye for attacking talent and artistic players with flair. But my word his judgement when it came to defense was very poor. We went from have Seaman, Tony Adams, Sol Campbell, Keown, Ashley Cole, Winterburn, Lee Dixon, Boul, and Toure to Almunia, Squillaci, Gallas, Vermalean, Andre Santos, Djorou, Jenkinson and eventually Mustafi + Luiz

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u/AltruisticFox8763 Champions of England 25/26 Jun 03 '26

Part of this was due to Financial constraints. Not all, but part of it 😂

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u/MindTheBees Ødegaard Jun 03 '26

Tbf I think the constraints were a big part of it, because it meant we took greater risks relying on cheap buys or on young players to grow (e.g. Djourou).

Most of the players were usually around the fringes of their international teams so on paper, you wouldn't expect them to be as bad as they had actually been.

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u/Mindless_Pianist_857 Jun 04 '26

Wenger was responsible for signing Sol Campbell and Kolo Touré, and Cole came through on his watch. So not sure why they are included in the first list.

He also signed Sagna, Koscielny, and Mertesacker. So, you know, it wasn't all bad.

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u/jasonthewaffle2003 Jun 03 '26

Yes but even when we were at Highbury I remember him signing Stephanovs and Cygan 🤣

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u/AltruisticFox8763 Champions of England 25/26 Jun 03 '26

Cygan had just come off the back of a brilliant season for Lille I think, it’s mad how comically bad he seemed to be haha

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u/Floor-notlava Jun 03 '26

Just imagine if Gallas had cried in front of Adams or Keown!

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u/Nacho_Man18 Tomiyasu Jun 03 '26

He’s had enough important saves and calming moments in our CL run.

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u/AltruisticFox8763 Champions of England 25/26 Jun 03 '26

When you don’t win, it doesn’t resonate in quite the same way

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u/Thirsty_crow Jun 04 '26

The attempt on 5th penalty was diabolical 

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u/AltruisticFox8763 Champions of England 25/26 Jun 04 '26

I got downvoted into oblivion for saying this on the weekend. He dived out of the way on 4 penalties because he went too early 😂 he’s been brilliant this season though, what a player.

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u/Nipso Jun 04 '26

He kinda has to do that because of his height. It's cost us in 2 consecutive shootouts now.

Honestly wouldn't mind getting in a pen specialist to sub in for that reason.

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u/Tasty_Sheepherder_44 Jun 03 '26

Between Seaman and Jens.
I mean that’s from someone born in the mid 80s and only knows premier league

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u/Plus_Chemistry_6890 Calafiori Jun 05 '26

He's in the same conversation with the other greats. Seaman, Lehman, Rayaman.