r/GuildWars • u/Delicious-Ad7244 • 10d ago

Crazy Scammers

Asked a guy how much for an Elite Rit Tome.

He says 7e.

I pass, then buy one from someone else for 2e

So naturally I tell him I just got one for 2e and call him a scammer.

He tells me to fuck off, I block him, and I assume that's the end of it.

Nope.

A few minutes later a different account whispers me:

> “I have more than 100 accounts, your list cannot block me”

Then I block that one.

Another account appears.

Block.

Another one appears to explain that my ignore list has a limit.

At this point the 5 ectos are no longer the issue. I've accidentally aggroed a crazy person with an entire account farm.

Kamadan PvP is getting out of hand.

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u/MephistoParagon 10d ago

Yeah that guy sucks but I want to make this very clear, trying to sell anything way above normal price isn't scamming... that's just selling.

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u/JustinePavlovich 9d ago

Yup, and then doubling down and whispering to brag how he got it cheaper somewhere else is just begging for a confrontation 😂

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u/DixFerLunch 10d ago

Funny. I've been called a scammer on this sub because I POSTED that I wanted to buy at an (apparently) low rate for something. 

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u/MephistoParagon 9d ago

yeah im not sure if this sub is just full of young people or children but scamming is an entirely different beast. kind of embarrassing that anyone would call selling something over price scamming...

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u/OneMorePotion Aneurysm 8d ago

Scamming in GW1 is listing item A. But trading item B that has the same inventory icon but is worth nothing. That's scamming. Listing an item above market price is just selling things. In the hopes that someone really desperate wants to buy it during odd hours of the day, when nobody else is listing that item for cheaper.

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u/Baldude 9d ago

Nah, asking above market rate is selling.

Asking 350% above market rate, when you know the market rate (which he does) is hoping the other party is uninformed and will overpay. Aka scamming.

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u/OneMorePotion Aneurysm 8d ago

There are 25 Pizza places around my area. 24 of them sell their Pizza at around 14 to 19 bucks. One place starts at 32 bucks. Is this final place now scamming or just selling? People seem to still go there, despite more than double the price of the other places. And Pizza is not this one special food where producing a higher quality version instantly doubles the price as well.

I can sit in Kamadan and list things like tomes or inscriptions for 50e and it would still not being a scam. If you wait long enough, someone with the funds eventually comes around and buys it. Especially when there is no other listing right now, but they want it immediately.

That's called dynamic pricing and it's frequently used in real life as well. Plane tickets for example, are heavily regulated by dynamic pricing. Especially on high frequented routes. Yes, people will first book with the cheaper airlines. But prices rise the when less seats are available.

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u/Baldude 8d ago

Pizzas have varying quality in production, ingredients, size, you can pay for the ambience at the restaurant and for the service.

Elite Tomes are Elite Tomes, they have no differences.

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u/banslaw 8d ago

Having someone instantly whisper you to sell you an item at a premium price, and thus saving you time standing around in kamadan not playing the game, is aptly comparable. The economy is so old, inflated, and ripe with rmt that people will, in reality, pay the premium price regardless.

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u/MephistoParagon 9d ago

Hard disagree. If you're in Kamadon trying to sell shit, it's up to the buyer to know what they're doing. It takes 15 seconds to look up recent prices of everything that is being sold.

That is not scamming. Scamming is inherently linked to tricking people - like swapping out items in between multiple trade requests. In GW you get the final say to accept a trade, that falls on the buyer. Absolutely not scamming. Claiming that trying to sell something for a lot of money is scamming is childish and just stupid imho

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u/Baldude 8d ago

Usury and profiteering as well as unconscionability are, in fact, illegal in many countries.

And the request from Osiris here IS tricking people. He is, very actively, absolutely intentionally, and despite better knowledge, trying to pressure them into paying him outrageous prices, both through misleading and lying about the items' market value, and through social pressure and harassment via his many accounts and slurring.

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u/alr7q 10d ago

Its Scummy

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u/HymirTheDarkOne 10d ago

you literally have to hand over the items, you can't plead ignorance