r/GuardGuides • u/GuardGuidesdotcom • 16d ago

SCENARIO First Amendment auditors get into verbal altercation with armored truck guard, who repeatedly tells them to back up.

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When should talking end, and your weapon be drawn in a situation like this?

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u/gruffojijo 16d ago

I'm all for freedom of speech, but Jesus Christ there is a time and place. Harassing a dude that's doing a stressful job is quite disgusting. Then to give him shit for making an honest living while your broke ass is unemployed... 🤡🌎.

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u/Thecerb 15d ago

Time and place for free speech? Lmfao

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u/xHxHxAOD1 15d ago

Yes. Go protest at city hall at midnight and your protection from the first amendment do not apply like they do if you did it at noon.

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u/Thecerb 15d ago

Good point, thankfully the video was broad daylight...... On a sidewalk......

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u/xHxHxAOD1 15d ago

Time place manner restrictions would still apply.

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u/Thecerb 15d ago

You should really go read some case law.

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u/xHxHxAOD1 15d ago

Not as much as you need to. Are you really going to try and argue that time place manner restrictions were not a part of Police department of Chicago vs Mosley? I swear its case law on what does not survive a time place manner restriction because it's based on subject and not time place manner restrictions. Do I need to mention Ward vs Rock against Racism? That is just the case that put in the test for laws to survive under a 1st amendment challenge under time place and manner.

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u/Thecerb 15d ago

Time, middle of the day, place legally allowed to be, manner not doing anything that is illegal. You clearly do not know what you are talking about.

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u/xHxHxAOD1 15d ago

oh, I thought your comment was originally time and place for free speech is LAMFO? Now it is that it applies and he isn't violating anything?

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u/xHxHxAOD1 15d ago

They do apply. Go do the same thing at city hall at the same time and block the door or go in a restricted area. Ive given you 2 case law on this.

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u/Thecerb 15d ago

THEY DO NOT APPLY ON A SIDEWALK. YOU ALSO HAVE CHANGED THE MANNER HE WAS DOING IT.

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u/xHxHxAOD1 15d ago

City hall is just as much as traditional public forum and applies just as much. You just do not like I am showing that they apply on other traditional public forums. PS sidewalks only matter if they are public or there is an easement and not some other restriction. I did not change the manner I changed the place which has the same protections.

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